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The Game: The Doctor's Advocate - PirateTreasureNC - 10-11-2006 09:34 PM
Realted article since the cd isn't out yet:
http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1542902/20061011/game_the.jhtml?headlines=true
Hmmmm one man NWA eh?
Re: The Game: The Doctor's Advocate - flyingswoosh - 10-11-2006 09:36 PM
PirateTreasureNC Wrote:Realted article since the cd isn't out yet:
http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1542902/20061011/game_the.jhtml?headlines=true
Hmmmm one man NWA eh?
yeah, i read this yesterday. his ego is off the charts. but his music bangs, so i'll have to see. my aunt said she'd get me the album in about a week, so i'll tell you how good it is. i like the two songs i've heard off of it.
Re: The Game: The Doctor's Advocate - PirateTreasureNC - 10-11-2006 09:49 PM
flyingswoosh Wrote:PirateTreasureNC Wrote:Realted article since the cd isn't out yet:
http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1542902/20061011/game_the.jhtml?headlines=true
Hmmmm one man NWA eh?
yeah, i read this yesterday. his ego is off the charts. but his music bangs, so i'll have to see. my aunt said she'd get me the album in about a week, so i'll tell you how good it is. i like the two songs i've heard off of it.
Correct me if I am wrong but someone said he basically shut up the whole G-Unit clique. True or False?
I thought " The Documentary" was OK.... I just got tired of him talking about paying homage to NWA and Compton and the constant talking about making a classic cd. It had about 4 stand out tracks IMO... Westside Story, Dreams, How We Do, and We Ain't. There are some other good songs as well...but these are the standout songs IMO.
Re: The Game: The Doctor's Advocate - flyingswoosh - 10-11-2006 09:54 PM
PirateTreasureNC Wrote:flyingswoosh Wrote:PirateTreasureNC Wrote:Realted article since the cd isn't out yet:
http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1542902/20061011/game_the.jhtml?headlines=true
Hmmmm one man NWA eh?
yeah, i read this yesterday. his ego is off the charts. but his music bangs, so i'll have to see. my aunt said she'd get me the album in about a week, so i'll tell you how good it is. i like the two songs i've heard off of it.
Correct me if I am wrong but someone said he basically shut up the whole G-Unit clique. True or False?
I thought " The Documentary" was OK.... I just got tired of him talking about paying homage to NWA and Compton and the constant talking about making a classic cd. It had about 4 stand out tracks IMO... Westside Story, Dreams, How We Do, and We Ain't.
i'm not really sure if he shut them up, but he was the most talented artist and when he left, 50 began this mad scramble to sign a ton of artists so he could build up his number of allies. only problem is, he signed people who don't have any talent. So, i wouldn't say g-unit is declining, because buck, banks and 50 are doing fine, but the problem is, nobody cares about the crap 50 signed.
i enjoyed the documentary, it had a handful of tracks that were awesome but not mainstream. the 4 you listed are excellent, but there a bunch more. The biggest problem IMO was that the fat wasn't cut. there were too many tracks. And Game's biggest problem is exactly what you said; he namedrops way too much. i'd like to see him dominate without mentioning dre and snoop a million times.
Re: The Game: The Doctor's Advocate - PirateTreasureNC - 10-11-2006 10:10 PM
flyingswoosh Wrote:The biggest problem IMO was that the fat wasn't cut. there were too many tracks. And Game's biggest problem is exactly what you said; he namedrops way too much. i'd like to see him dominate without mentioning dre and snoop a million times.
WORD!!!
Has he corrected this on the new stuff you have heard?
I don't mind saying these are my boys, I repsect/love these guys, and these guys influenced me to make so and so ...but he spent way to much lyrical content on that instead of just straight rapping.
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Sidebar,
Has Dr Dre stated FOR A FACT that DeTox is NOT coming out? I hear yes one day, no the next. I think the rap games needs Dre to drop DeTox.
Re: The Game: The Doctor's Advocate - flyingswoosh - 10-11-2006 10:15 PM
PirateTreasureNC Wrote:flyingswoosh Wrote:The biggest problem IMO was that the fat wasn't cut. there were too many tracks. And Game's biggest problem is exactly what you said; he namedrops way too much. i'd like to see him dominate without mentioning dre and snoop a million times.
WORD!!!
Has he corrected this on the new stuff you have heard?
I don't mind saying these are my boys, I repsect/love these guys, and these guys influenced me to make so and so ...but he spent way to much lyrical content on that instead of just straight rapping.
******************************************
Sidebar,
Has Dr Dre stated FOR A FACT that DeTox is NOT coming out? I hear yes one day, no the next. I think the rap games needs Dre to drop DeTox.
he has not corrected it on the 2 songs that are out. he name dropped like crazy. i'm hoping he cuts it out on the grimy/non-mainstream tracks, but i doubt it.
as far as detox, i think it'll be out one day. my aunt has talked to dre about it and he said he keeps trying to get into the booth and hammer it out, but he's so busy producing everyone else's projects. the problem is, the hip hop community needs a Dre album as bad as it does a Jigga album. as well as Nas and eminem.
Re: The Game: The Doctor's Advocate - PirateTreasureNC - 10-11-2006 10:24 PM
flyingswoosh Wrote:as far as detox, i think it'll be out one day. my aunt has talked to dre about it and he said he keeps trying to get into the booth and hammer it out, but he's so busy producing everyone else's projects. the problem is, the hip hop community needs a Dre album as bad as it does a Jigga album. as well as Nas and eminem.
I also think the rap game needs a COMMERCIALLY SUCCESSFULL cd by
Rakim, or hell Eric B and Rakim reunion. Granted I heard a new Rakim cd should be out on Dre's Aftermath sooner or later
Public Enemy / KRS One ... I guess they have gone Indy for now till the rap game can embrace political conciousness again. Not jsut gang / street life
A Tribe Called Quest / De La Soul cd... fresh ideas and music.
A reunited NWA... one of the few gangster rap groups that could be political and thug at the same time. --- TOO bad the possibility of this is near 0 b/c Dre and Cube are so busy. I don't think you'd ahve too much trouble getting MC Ren, DJ Yella, and Snoop ( Snoop replaced Easy E when they did Chin Check a few years ago ) in on the project.
Wu Tang Clan!!! But this Wu Tang can't be like their last few efforts... it needs to be like 36 Chambers and Forever... bring back the kung fu movie sound bytes and lots of killer lyrics and their "style" of beats. It might be THE SAME w/o ODB ..but they should try
PLEASE NOTE I SAID COMMERCIALLY SUCCESSFULL ... indy cd w/ no marketing and promotion would do NOTHING for the current state of rap music.
- flyingswoosh - 10-11-2006 10:31 PM
rakim was supposed to put out an album on aftermath, but i'm pretty sure he left, because he wasn't getting enough creative control.
the word is that the Wu might be making an album together, but i'll believe it when i see it.
i do know that only built for cuban linx 2, should be coming out in the 1st quarter next year. RZA and Dre are executive producing. i'm not sure if you know, but raekwon is on aftermath.
- flyingswoosh - 10-11-2006 10:39 PM
here's a new, short track from raekwon: myspace.com/raekwon. it's called legal coke. it's pretty nice.
- PirateTreasureNC - 10-11-2006 10:41 PM
flyingswoosh Wrote:rakim was supposed to put out an album on aftermath, but i'm pretty sure he left, because he wasn't getting enough creative control.
the word is that the Wu might be making an album together, but i'll believe it when i see it.
i do know that only built for cuban linx 2, should be coming out in the 1st quarter next year. RZA and Dre are executive producing. i'm not sure if you know, but raekwon is on aftermath.
I know many of my rap fan freinds were all about Raekwon's Cuban Linx cd... I HATED IT. I couldn't tell you why exactly but I DID NOT LIKE IT AT ALL.
The only solo effort out of the Wu Tang group I thought was excellent was Liquid Swords by the Genious/Gza. Meth's were ok but now he has played himslef out w/ crappy releases.
- flyingswoosh - 10-11-2006 10:51 PM
PirateTreasureNC Wrote:flyingswoosh Wrote:rakim was supposed to put out an album on aftermath, but i'm pretty sure he left, because he wasn't getting enough creative control.
the word is that the Wu might be making an album together, but i'll believe it when i see it.
i do know that only built for cuban linx 2, should be coming out in the 1st quarter next year. RZA and Dre are executive producing. i'm not sure if you know, but raekwon is on aftermath.
I know many of my rap fan freinds were all about Raekwon's Cuban Linx cd... I HATED IT. I couldn't tell you why exactly but I DID NOT LIKE IT AT ALL.
The only solo effort out of the Wu Tang group I thought was excellent was Liquid Swords by the Genious/Gza. Meth's were ok but now he has played himslef out w/ crappy releases.
i agree, cuban linx is overrated.
- PirateTreasureNC - 11-12-2006 10:19 PM
Cd releases 11/14
...Swoosh have you heard anymore tracks?
- flyingswoosh - 11-12-2006 11:31 PM
PirateTreasureNC Wrote:Cd releases 11/14
...Swoosh have you heard anymore tracks?
oh, it leaked over a week ago. It's a pretty good album, nothing epic. the production is awesome, but his lyrics are even worse than the Doc. At least on The Doc he had a bunch of songs where he actually rhymed about important things. In this album he mentions Dre hundreds of times and only has a few tracks where he talks about something other than chronic, impalas, or switches.
- PirateTreasureNC - 11-12-2006 11:46 PM
flyingswoosh Wrote:PirateTreasureNC Wrote:Cd releases 11/14
...Swoosh have you heard anymore tracks?
oh, it leaked over a week ago. It's a pretty good album, nothing epic. the production is awesome, but his lyrics are even worse than the Doc. At least on The Doc he had a bunch of songs where he actually rhymed about important things. In this album he mentions Dre hundreds of times and only has a few tracks where he talks about something other than chronic, impalas, or switches.
Would you spend $10 on it or pass?
- flyingswoosh - 11-13-2006 12:34 AM
PirateTreasureNC Wrote:flyingswoosh Wrote:PirateTreasureNC Wrote:Cd releases 11/14
...Swoosh have you heard anymore tracks?
oh, it leaked over a week ago. It's a pretty good album, nothing epic. the production is awesome, but his lyrics are even worse than the Doc. At least on The Doc he had a bunch of songs where he actually rhymed about important things. In this album he mentions Dre hundreds of times and only has a few tracks where he talks about something other than chronic, impalas, or switches.
Would you spend $10 on it or pass?
yeah, i would. It destroyed Hova's new album, which leaked a couple days ago.
- PirateTreasureNC - 11-13-2006 02:28 PM
flyingswoosh Wrote:PirateTreasureNC Wrote:flyingswoosh Wrote:PirateTreasureNC Wrote:Cd releases 11/14
...Swoosh have you heard anymore tracks?
oh, it leaked over a week ago. It's a pretty good album, nothing epic. the production is awesome, but his lyrics are even worse than the Doc. At least on The Doc he had a bunch of songs where he actually rhymed about important things. In this album he mentions Dre hundreds of times and only has a few tracks where he talks about something other than chronic, impalas, or switches.
Would you spend $10 on it or pass?
yeah, i would. It destroyed Hova's new album, which leaked a couple days ago.
So that is a arguement to BUY?
- flyingswoosh - 11-13-2006 03:10 PM
PirateTreasureNC Wrote:flyingswoosh Wrote:PirateTreasureNC Wrote:flyingswoosh Wrote:PirateTreasureNC Wrote:Cd releases 11/14
...Swoosh have you heard anymore tracks?
oh, it leaked over a week ago. It's a pretty good album, nothing epic. the production is awesome, but his lyrics are even worse than the Doc. At least on The Doc he had a bunch of songs where he actually rhymed about important things. In this album he mentions Dre hundreds of times and only has a few tracks where he talks about something other than chronic, impalas, or switches.
Would you spend $10 on it or pass?
yeah, i would. It destroyed Hova's new album, which leaked a couple days ago.
So that is a arguement to BUY?
yeah. to quote game, alot of the songs "bang in the whip."
- PirateTreasureNC - 11-13-2006 07:51 PM
I just might pick it up then... can you give a review since you have already peeped it? ;-)
- flyingswoosh - 11-13-2006 10:20 PM
PirateTreasureNC Wrote:I just might pick it up then... can you give a review since you have already peeped it? ;-)
yeah, i actually wrote one for my aunt. she said she was gonna give it to jimmy iovine. hopefully she did.
- PirateTreasureNC - 11-13-2006 10:39 PM
flyingswoosh Wrote:PirateTreasureNC Wrote:I just might pick it up then... can you give a review since you have already peeped it? ;-)
yeah, i actually wrote one for my aunt. she said she was gonna give it to jimmy iovine. hopefully she did.
Now you are name droppin' like Game? LOL