Quote:After a weekend of talks and negotiations, the Big East Conference has put together a framework of an agreement allowing member schools known as the Catholic 7 to break away from the Big East by July and take the "Big East'' name, according to a person familiar with the discussions.

The person spoke on the condition of anonymity because the matter was not to be discussed publicly.

The person said and agreement on the split could be announced Thursday and added that the Big East football schools expect to have a new conference name as well as a new site for the conference basketball tournament, which has been anchored in New York's Madison Square Garden since 1983.

(03-05-2013 01:32 AM)Wedge Wrote:  http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/bigeast/2013/03/04/catholic-seven-7-negotiations/1963671/

Quote:After a weekend of talks and negotiations, the Big East Conference has put together a framework of an agreement allowing member schools known as the Catholic 7 to break away from the Big East by July and take the "Big East'' name, according to a person familiar with the discussions.

The person spoke on the condition of anonymity because the matter was not to be discussed publicly.

The person said and agreement on the split could be announced Thursday and added that the Big East football schools expect to have a new conference name as well as a new site for the conference basketball tournament, which has been anchored in New York's Madison Square Garden since 1983.

Other than the "framework" comment, and the suggestion that an announcement will be made Thursday, and that the FB schools might announce a new name and hoops tournament site, most of this looks like what Blaudschun wrote on his own website on Sunday. UConn, USF, and Cincinnati get a windfall; the incoming FB schools split a total of $10 million between them; Notre Dame to the ACC in fall 2013.

(03-05-2013 01:38 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-05-2013 01:32 AM)Wedge Wrote:  http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/bigeast/2013/03/04/catholic-seven-7-negotiations/1963671/

Quote:After a weekend of talks and negotiations, the Big East Conference has put together a framework of an agreement allowing member schools known as the Catholic 7 to break away from the Big East by July and take the "Big East'' name, according to a person familiar with the discussions.

The person spoke on the condition of anonymity because the matter was not to be discussed publicly.

The person said and agreement on the split could be announced Thursday and added that the Big East football schools expect to have a new conference name as well as a new site for the conference basketball tournament, which has been anchored in New York's Madison Square Garden since 1983.

Other than the "framework" comment, and the suggestion that an announcement will be made Thursday, and that the FB schools might announce a new name and hoops tournament site, most of this looks like what Blaudschun wrote on his own website on Sunday. UConn, USF, and Cincinnati get a windfall; the incoming FB schools split a total of $10 million between them; Notre Dame to the ACC in fall 2013.

I dont think the football schools are announcing a name on Thursday. I think thats just clumsy sentence structure. I think hes just strung together several unrelated facts. He's saying the deal will be announced Thursday and then is simnply going on to say the confernece plans to come up with a new name and may have thier first tournanment in Harford (or not, depending on the B1G).

(03-05-2013 08:01 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  Hartford as the new tourney site should tell the newbies all they need to know about their budding lives in the nBE. Why not New Orleans, or Houston, or Dallas, or Memphis, or one of a couple locations in Florida? At least Cincinnati would be closer to the rest of the new league, but no, let's put it at the northeastern edge of the conference. UConn is the new Providence.

(03-05-2013 03:23 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(03-05-2013 01:38 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-05-2013 01:32 AM)Wedge Wrote:  http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/bigeast/2013/03/04/catholic-seven-7-negotiations/1963671/

Quote:After a weekend of talks and negotiations, the Big East Conference has put together a framework of an agreement allowing member schools known as the Catholic 7 to break away from the Big East by July and take the "Big East'' name, according to a person familiar with the discussions.

The person spoke on the condition of anonymity because the matter was not to be discussed publicly.

The person said and agreement on the split could be announced Thursday and added that the Big East football schools expect to have a new conference name as well as a new site for the conference basketball tournament, which has been anchored in New York's Madison Square Garden since 1983.

Other than the "framework" comment, and the suggestion that an announcement will be made Thursday, and that the FB schools might announce a new name and hoops tournament site, most of this looks like what Blaudschun wrote on his own website on Sunday. UConn, USF, and Cincinnati get a windfall; the incoming FB schools split a total of $10 million between them; Notre Dame to the ACC in fall 2013.

I dont think the football schools are announcing a name on Thursday. I think thats just clumsy sentence structure. I think hes just strung together several unrelated facts. He's saying the deal will be announced Thursday and then is simnply going on to say the confernece plans to come up with a new name and may have thier first tournanment in Harford (or not, depending on the B1G).

I think that's unnecessarily pessimistic. (Which is hard to do with that crowd, I know.) In his blog, he said the same stuff, except for the bit about the name, and with the addition of pimping Hartford for the conference tournament.

I don't think it's a stretch to assume that someone "A-doy, but boss, if we sell the Big East name, what's our name, boss? Huh boss?" Seriously, there were 11 presidents and ADs at the Atlanta meeting, plus Aresco and whoever else came from Providence. There had to be a triple-digit IQ in the room somewhere.

(03-05-2013 09:11 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  First it was Monday of last weel, then Wednesday, then Friday, then Monday again, then Wednesday again, now Thursday. The constant pushing back of the announcement is troublesome. The sides are still $20M apart. Blaudschun's source must be a BE official who is overly optimistic, rather than someone at one of the schools involved.

(03-05-2013 09:46 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  There were eleven presidents there. And they didn't agree on selling the name--so it's not a stretch that they never even got to the next step of agreeing on a new name. Hell, they couldn't even agree with Aresco that the ESPN deal was a "match" worth signing. This group is not on the same page--they are no longer even reading from the same book. No legitimate conference that gives a crap about its future sells a well known 34 year old brand name for a million a school. Nobody gives up thier best recruiting tool. Anyone that thinks there was any sort of agreement or unity in that room is not looking at the big picture or the long term view.

(03-05-2013 11:02 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  After that meeting (presumably), at least UConn, UC and USF got on the same page, judging by JerseyGuy's blog. (You'd need all three of those to agree to a deal with the C-7, I think.)

Quote:Unless something happens late, Fox won't announce Catholic 7 deal Tues. cuz of "bureaucratic hold up." Deal still on though

(03-05-2013 11:49 AM)gocards#1 Wrote:  What exactly is forcing the incoming schools to join at this juncture? I understand the league they're coming from has already found replacements but why not play hardball and tell UConn, Cincinnati, and USF to share equally or they're going to be without a home next year. The incoming schools and Temple could form their own league with ECU, Tulane, Navy, and a handful of others and get a similar TV deal anyway, right? USF, UConn, and Cincinnati would get a good payday for one season from the exit fees and name then be up ****'s creek when they don't have a league to play in for 2014. It seems like the incoming schools have the upper hand.

You can't tell me

Cincinnati
UConn
USF
UCF
Memphis
Houston
SMU
Temple
ECU
Tulane
Navy
Tulsa

Is worth any more than

UCF
Memphis
Houston
SMU
Temple
ECU
Tulane
Navy
Tulsa
USM?
UTEP?
UMass?
NIU?
Ohio?
*VCU?
*George Mason?

(03-05-2013 11:49 AM)gocards#1 Wrote:  What exactly is forcing the incoming schools to join at this juncture? I understand the league they're coming from has already found replacements but why not play hardball and tell UConn, Cincinnati, and USF to share equally or they're going to be without a home next year. The incoming schools and Temple could form their own league with ECU, Tulane, Navy, and a handful of others and get a similar TV deal anyway, right? USF, UConn, and Cincinnati would get a good payday for one season from the exit fees and name then be up ****'s creek when they don't have a league to play in for 2014. It seems like the incoming schools have the upper hand.

You can't tell me

Cincinnati
UConn
USF
UCF
Memphis
Houston
SMU
Temple
ECU
Tulane
Navy
Tulsa

Is worth any more than

UCF
Memphis
Houston
SMU
Temple
ECU
Tulane
Navy
Tulsa
USM?
UTEP?
UMass?
NIU?
Ohio?
*VCU?
*George Mason?

(03-05-2013 03:55 PM)MickMack Wrote:  

(03-05-2013 11:49 AM)gocards#1 Wrote:  What exactly is forcing the incoming schools to join at this juncture? I understand the league they're coming from has already found replacements but why not play hardball and tell UConn, Cincinnati, and USF to share equally or they're going to be without a home next year. The incoming schools and Temple could form their own league with ECU, Tulane, Navy, and a handful of others and get a similar TV deal anyway, right? USF, UConn, and Cincinnati would get a good payday for one season from the exit fees and name then be up ****'s creek when they don't have a league to play in for 2014. It seems like the incoming schools have the upper hand.

You can't tell me

Cincinnati
UConn
USF
UCF
Memphis
Houston
SMU
Temple
ECU
Tulane
Navy
Tulsa

Is worth any more than

UCF
Memphis
Houston
SMU
Temple
ECU
Tulane
Navy
Tulsa
USM?
UTEP?
UMass?
NIU?
Ohio?
*VCU?
*George Mason?

We've got a fist full of dollars and plenty of options. Here's how I see your plan playing out:

Football only to MWC for UC, UConn, and USF. Won't work you say? I guess you're right except that Boise would loooooove to have the best football names from nBE and recruiting in Fla. Couple that with the fact that the A10 would love to have some UC, UConn and USF basketball right about now. Oh, did I mention that we have a war chest to offset any travel costs? No? I guess that matters too.

Meanwhile.............the rest of the nBE has accomplished absolutely nothing.