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Houston to the ACC? - BattleCougarRed_88 - 05-08-2016 11:32 AM
Morning to everyone!
I'm new at this forum but I wanted to ask everyone on what's their opinion on having the Houston Cougars if the ACC were to expand?
Wouldn't it help create a network by having the #10 market and also get you into Texas recruiting grounds?
Thanks!
RE: Houston to the ACC? - Ewglenn - 05-08-2016 12:59 PM
(05-08-2016 11:32 AM)BattleCougarRed_88 Wrote: Morning to everyone!
I'm new at this forum but I wanted to ask everyone on what's their opinion on having the Houston Cougars if the ACC were to expand?
Wouldn't it help create a network by having the #10 market and also get you into Texas recruiting grounds?
Thanks!
I like Houston, but I think the ACC would be trying to get more national brands if we were to expand (Texas, Oklahoma, or Penn St). If it were me I would be okay with Houston if we could get one more team out of it.
RE: Houston to the ACC? - nzmorange - 05-08-2016 01:33 PM
(05-08-2016 11:32 AM)BattleCougarRed_88 Wrote: Morning to everyone!
I'm new at this forum but I wanted to ask everyone on what's their opinion on having the Houston Cougars if the ACC were to expand?
Wouldn't it help create a network by having the #10 market and also get you into Texas recruiting grounds?
Thanks!
No
RE: Houston to the ACC? - WakeForestRanger - 05-08-2016 01:55 PM
I don't think Houston would be a candidate unless the ACC is in the position of having to replace schools.
RE: Houston to the ACC? - FloridaState1990 - 05-08-2016 02:27 PM
Travel costs, different time zone not unless other schools defect
RE: Houston to the ACC? - cuseroc - 05-08-2016 02:28 PM
Houston is great at ffb right now but can they sustain that level of play once their current coach is gone? Also. not sure about Houston academics. Regarding the Houston market, I don't think the Cougers deliver the market for an ACCN. I think their are many other schools ahead of Houston.
RE: Houston to the ACC? - Hokie Mark - 05-08-2016 03:44 PM
1. Yes, Houston TV market is desirable.
2. Yes, Texas recruiting is desirable.
3. Yes, Houston has good football (I don't know about the academics or other sports much)
4. Attendance is a concern but maybe not a deal-breaker
Agree with above comment that if the ACC were to expand again (especially so far from the current footprint) it would probably have to be a national brand that commands big TV ratings.
RE: Houston to the ACC? - Hallcity - 05-08-2016 04:16 PM
(05-08-2016 03:44 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote: 1. Yes, Houston TV market is desirable.
2. Yes, Texas recruiting is desirable.
3. Yes, Houston has good football (I don't know about the academics or other sports much)
4. Attendance is a concern but maybe not a deal-breaker
Agree with above comment that if the ACC were to expand again (especially so far from the current footprint) it would probably have to be a national brand that commands big TV ratings.
We've got people who can actually contemplate the possibility of adding the University of Houston! The B12 doesn't want them but the ACC should? If you're being serious, adding the University of Texas is virtually inconceivable. Any talk of adding Houston is insane.
RE: Houston to the ACC? - texasorange - 05-08-2016 06:20 PM
(05-08-2016 11:32 AM)BattleCougarRed_88 Wrote: Morning to everyone!
I'm new at this forum but I wanted to ask everyone on what's their opinion on having the Houston Cougars if the ACC were to expand?
Wouldn't it help create a network by having the #10 market and also get you into Texas recruiting grounds?
Thanks!
The Big 12 is your best bet. Curious as to why your first post is on the ACC board?
RE: Houston to the ACC? - ULdave - 05-08-2016 06:55 PM
Houston has a great program but right now they are simply screwed. The ACC isn't looking at expanding right now unless it involves bringing ND into the fold as a full member. Then if that happens, expect the expansion targets to more like WVU, Maryland, or Penn St.
RE: Houston to the ACC? - Hokie Mark - 05-08-2016 07:02 PM
Maryland is NOT coming back.
South Carolina is NOT coming back.
Penn State is NOT leaving the Big Ten.
WVU's problem is similar to UConn - like BC covers New England, Pitt covers Western PA (and there is no West Virginia market).
RE: Houston to the ACC? - ULdave - 05-08-2016 07:13 PM
(05-08-2016 07:02 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote: Maryland is NOT coming back.Again, I only see ACC expansion if ND goes full member (which WON'T happen). But if ND were in play I think the ACC would have more to offer those schools then they currently do.
South Carolina is NOT coming back.
Penn State is NOT leaving the Big Ten.
WVU's problem is similar to UConn - like BC covers New England, Pitt covers Western PA (and there is no West Virginia market).
RE: Houston to the ACC? - Hokie Mark - 05-08-2016 07:30 PM
Well, I guess TCU took a hit on the academics scale...
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RE: Houston to the ACC? - nzmorange - 05-08-2016 08:10 PM
(05-08-2016 07:30 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote: Well, I guess TCU took a hit on the academics scale...
I thought that you were going to go a different direction with that post.
RE: Houston to the ACC? - OrangeCrush22 - 05-08-2016 08:55 PM
All 15 members in the ACC are in the eastern timezone -- the only major conference to have all its members within the same timezone. I would rather not mess with that.
RE: Houston to the ACC? - GTFletch - 05-08-2016 09:30 PM
I actually think Houston to the B12 (along with CINCY) and UCF/ECU/Memphis/UCONN(any combo of two teams) to the ACC makes more sense
RE: Houston to the ACC? - BattleCougarRed_88 - 05-08-2016 11:14 PM
(05-08-2016 06:20 PM)texasorange Wrote:(05-08-2016 11:32 AM)BattleCougarRed_88 Wrote: Morning to everyone!
I'm new at this forum but I wanted to ask everyone on what's their opinion on having the Houston Cougars if the ACC were to expand?
Wouldn't it help create a network by having the #10 market and also get you into Texas recruiting grounds?
Thanks!
The Big 12 is your best bet. Curious as to why your first post is on the ACC board?
Simply out of curiosity and the love of expansion talk. Though I do admit, wanting to know what's everyone's opinion on the Cougars, but mostly to get y'alls input on these points:
A) Looking at the conferences that doesn't have a Texas school to give them access to Texas grounds are the ACC, Pac-12 and the B1G. Wanted to get everyone's input as to what their opinion is about Houston being a candidate for an ACC expansion (if it happens).
B) As long as the Longhorns has a flagpole so far up their ass, UH's chances getting into the Big 12 are slim to none, especially if they don't want a recruiting war between the other four Texas schools.
C) I've seen many comments where Texas goes to the ACC, SEC, Pac12 or B1G. Probable, yes. Happening, I'm not sure on the simple reason that I doubt the Longhorns relinquish their role as a feudal lord and feel equal to any other programs in another conference if the bolt out of the Big12. So based on that, it bars the question that in case Texas is not available four courting, would Houston be a possible candidate?
D) Some of you can give me an input on this, but I'm not sure to what extend the deal the Big 10 is trying to get with Fox Sports will affect the ACC. Would it cause them to expand into a new market and add a network?
Thanks!
RE: Houston to the ACC? - BattleCougarRed_88 - 05-08-2016 11:32 PM
(05-08-2016 09:30 PM)GTFletch Wrote: I actually think Houston to the B12 (along with CINCY) and UCF/ECU/Memphis/UCONN(any combo of two teams) to the ACC makes more sense
Honestly, I wish UH gets an invite to the Big 12. Realistically, it may not happen due to Texas not wanting to give up the Longhorn Network.
However, I rather have the Cougars join the ACC due to their stability. But that's me.
RE: Houston to the ACC? - lumberpack4 - 05-08-2016 11:53 PM
(05-08-2016 08:55 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote: All 15 members in the ACC are in the eastern timezone -- the only major conference to have all its members within the same timezone. I would rather not mess with that.
While Tallahassee, Louisville, and South Bend are are located just inside the westernmost extent of the Eastern Time Zone, I think it's also fair to say that all three have a significant fan base over the line in Chicago, Western Ky, and the Western Florida Panhandle and SE Alabama. What makes a single time zone so great? It doesn't seem to hurt the SEC or B10, or does it?
RE: Houston to the ACC? - Hokie Mark - 05-09-2016 06:30 AM
(05-08-2016 11:53 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:(05-08-2016 08:55 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote: All 15 members in the ACC are in the eastern timezone -- the only major conference to have all its members within the same timezone. I would rather not mess with that.
While Tallahassee, Louisville, and South Bend are are located just inside the westernmost extent of the Eastern Time Zone, I think it's also fair to say that all three have a significant fan base over the line in Chicago, Western Ky, and the Western Florida Panhandle and SE Alabama. What makes a single time zone so great? It doesn't seem to hurt the SEC or B10, or does it?
I will go on record as being against adding Hawaii.