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Why is it that some perceive reasonable behavior as persecution? - john01992 - 08-22-2016 11:45 AM
For some people keywords such as "BCE" or "happy holidays" seem to trigger a response where they see said comments as "hating on christianity." I really don't see how one could see rhetoric designed to be inclusive of all values be seen as an attack on one single value.
RE: Why is it that some perceive reasonable behavior as persecution? - olliebaba - 08-22-2016 11:49 AM
The only people that use BCE are Leftists and Atheists. No Christian would use it so that's what bothers the Libbys.
RE: Why is it that some perceive reasonable behavior as persecution? - john01992 - 08-22-2016 12:02 PM
(08-22-2016 11:49 AM)olliebaba Wrote: The only people that use BCE are Leftists and Atheists. No Christian would use it so that's what bothers the Libbys.
which reminds me of another question. why is it that certain christians who are obviously aware that a large percentage of the world are not christian be so adamant that everything must be written from a christian point of view?
RE: Why is it that some perceive reasonable behavior as persecution? - Smaug - 08-22-2016 07:22 PM
(08-22-2016 11:49 AM)olliebaba Wrote: The only people that use BCE are Leftists and Atheists. No Christian would use it so that's what bothers the Libbys.
It's fairly common among people to which it matters, ie, historians and anthropologists.
RE: Why is it that some perceive reasonable behavior as persecution? - Owl 69/70/75 - 08-22-2016 07:33 PM
(08-22-2016 12:02 PM)john01992 Wrote:(08-22-2016 11:49 AM)olliebaba Wrote: The only people that use BCE are Leftists and Atheists. No Christian would use it so that's what bothers the Libbys.
which reminds me of another question. why is it that certain christians who are obviously aware that a large percentage of the world are not christian be so adamant that everything must be written from a christian point of view?
Exactly how are BCE and CE determined, if not from a Christian point of view?
RE: Why is it that some perceive reasonable behavior as persecution? - Paul M - 08-23-2016 07:17 AM
Witches and devil worshipers don't try being all inclusive on Halloween. And everyone else is fine calling it Halloween. No corporate office sending out memos pushing candy sales and forbidding mention of why.
RE: Why is it that some perceive reasonable behavior as persecution? - john01992 - 08-26-2016 03:36 PM
(08-22-2016 07:33 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:(08-22-2016 12:02 PM)john01992 Wrote:(08-22-2016 11:49 AM)olliebaba Wrote: The only people that use BCE are Leftists and Atheists. No Christian would use it so that's what bothers the Libbys.
which reminds me of another question. why is it that certain christians who are obviously aware that a large percentage of the world are not christian be so adamant that everything must be written from a christian point of view?
Exactly how are BCE and CE determined, if not from a Christian point of view?
it's easier to start measuring time when the overwhelming majority of those documenting time rather than picking some arbitrary date and doing conversion all the time. seriously BCE being the same as BC is a simple product of convenience of not having to convert every single date from every single text
RE: Why is it that some perceive reasonable behavior as persecution? - HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine - 08-26-2016 10:35 PM
It was a change that made absolutely no sense. Change for the sake of change.
And Happy Holidays is absurd from the retail point of view when companies are using black ink because of Christmas sales. If someone wants to wish me Happy Holidays, I am good with it. But it is so disingenuous to see companies surviving on Christmas to play the PC game.
RE: Why is it that some perceive reasonable behavior as persecution? - HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine - 08-26-2016 10:36 PM
And why can't non-Christians accept the Christian terminology?
RE: Why is it that some perceive reasonable behavior as persecution? - john01992 - 08-26-2016 11:09 PM
(08-26-2016 10:36 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote: And why can't non-Christians accept the Christian terminology?
because they are non-christians
why is it easy in your mind for non-christians to accept non-secular terminology by hard for christians to accept secular terminology. common sense dictates the reverse of that makes a lot more sense
RE: Why is it that some perceive reasonable behavior as persecution? - john01992 - 08-26-2016 11:11 PM
(08-26-2016 10:35 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote: It was a change that made absolutely no sense. Change for the sake of change.
And Happy Holidays is absurd from the retail point of view when companies are using black ink because of Christmas sales. If someone wants to wish me Happy Holidays, I am good with it. But it is so disingenuous to see companies surviving on Christmas to play the PC game.
other than the very popular notion that academia should be secular and issues involving a very diverse range of culture shouldn't be non-secular just to appease a single religion.
RE: Why is it that some perceive reasonable behavior as persecution? - HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine - 08-27-2016 10:07 AM
(08-26-2016 11:11 PM)john01992 Wrote:(08-26-2016 10:35 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote: It was a change that made absolutely no sense. Change for the sake of change.
And Happy Holidays is absurd from the retail point of view when companies are using black ink because of Christmas sales. If someone wants to wish me Happy Holidays, I am good with it. But it is so disingenuous to see companies surviving on Christmas to play the PC game.
other than the very popular notion that academia should be secular and issues involving a very diverse range of culture shouldn't be non-secular just to appease a single religion.
So the desires of a majority suppress the preference of a minority?
RE: Why is it that some perceive reasonable behavior as persecution? - HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine - 08-27-2016 10:10 AM
(08-26-2016 11:09 PM)john01992 Wrote:(08-26-2016 10:36 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote: And why can't non-Christians accept the Christian terminology?
because they are non-christians
why is it easy in your mind for non-christians to accept non-secular terminology by hard for christians to accept secular terminology. common sense dictates the reverse of that makes a lot more sense
So Christians have to accept the non-Christians terminology?
By hard? Proofread your garbage.
Common scene. Haha. Capitalization is common sense. Why is it so hard for you to use it? Common sense would say that it is easy for you to comprehend the usage.
RE: Why is it that some perceive reasonable behavior as persecution? - Owl 69/70/75 - 08-27-2016 11:08 AM
(08-26-2016 11:11 PM)john01992 Wrote:(08-26-2016 10:35 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote: It was a change that made absolutely no sense. Change for the sake of change.other than the very popular notion that academia should be secular and issues involving a very diverse range of culture shouldn't be non-secular just to appease a single religion.
And Happy Holidays is absurd from the retail point of view when companies are using black ink because of Christmas sales. If someone wants to wish me Happy Holidays, I am good with it. But it is so disingenuous to see companies surviving on Christmas to play the PC game.
But it's not being secular. It's still the exact same date. It's just changing words for the hell of it. There's no substantive change. You're still reckoning dates the exact same way. It's like, "We're not actually going to change anything, but we can't stand to use those words to refer to it, so we're going to change the words just enough so that we can say we changed something." You're still using the exact same Christian calendar, you're just changing words so that you can pretend you made some substantive change.
RE: Why is it that some perceive reasonable behavior as persecution? - john01992 - 08-29-2016 03:53 PM
(08-27-2016 10:10 AM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:(08-26-2016 11:09 PM)john01992 Wrote:(08-26-2016 10:36 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote: And why can't non-Christians accept the Christian terminology?
because they are non-christians
why is it easy in your mind for non-christians to accept non-secular terminology by hard for christians to accept secular terminology. common sense dictates the reverse of that makes a lot more sense
So Christians have to accept the non-Christians terminology?
By hard? Proofread your garbage.
Common scene. Haha. Capitalization is common sense. Why is it so hard for you to use it? Common sense would say that it is easy for you to comprehend the usage.
you are such a retarded f*ck
you are on one hand saying how terrible it is for christians to accept secular terminology but have no problem with forcing jews, atheists, muslims, hindus, etc. to accept christian terminology.
why is that acceptable to you?
are you really that much of a bigoted prick?
RE: Why is it that some perceive reasonable behavior as persecution? - MonarchManiac - 08-30-2016 12:17 PM
wow. nice of you.
RE: Why is it that some perceive reasonable behavior as persecution? - john01992 - 08-30-2016 12:54 PM
(08-30-2016 12:17 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote: wow. nice of you.
is he not a bigot for saying it is wrong for christians to suffer from religious intolerance but thinks it is perfectly acceptable for jews, atheists, and muslims to suffer religious intolerance?
RE: Why is it that some perceive reasonable behavior as persecution? - MonarchManiac - 08-30-2016 01:14 PM
I was commenting on the retarded **** and bigoted pick language. It renders anything else you say void.
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RE: Why is it that some perceive reasonable behavior as persecution? - Paul M - 08-30-2016 03:50 PM
(08-30-2016 12:54 PM)john01992 Wrote:(08-30-2016 12:17 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote: wow. nice of you.
is he not a bigot for saying it is wrong for christians to suffer from religious intolerance but thinks it is perfectly acceptable for jews, atheists, and muslims to suffer religious intolerance?
Using the proper BC and AD is not subjecting anyone to religious intolerance.