(10-03-2016 10:03 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  I don't disagree with you, but who is to say what is the right or wrong way to protest?

I find what the sf qb, fb players, and band members deplorable, but it is their right

It's also the companies right to punish those as they see fit due to negative backlash to their companies

Everyone has freedom of speech, but not freedom from consequences

(10-03-2016 10:22 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  

(10-03-2016 10:03 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  I don't disagree with you, but who is to say what is the right or wrong way to protest?

I find what the sf qb, fb players, and band members deplorable, but it is their right

It's also the companies right to punish those as they see fit due to negative backlash to their companies

Everyone has freedom of speech, but not freedom from consequences

Well said!

I did neglect to discuss freedom of speech, and certainly agree with freedom of speech. Unfortunately most of us only like the free speech that we agree with, human nature I guess. Free speech can be a fine line. Falsely yelling "Fire" in a crowded movie theater is free speech but dangerous and is against the law.

(10-03-2016 10:27 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-03-2016 10:22 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  

(10-03-2016 10:03 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  I don't disagree with you, but who is to say what is the right or wrong way to protest?

I find what the sf qb, fb players, and band members deplorable, but it is their right

It's also the companies right to punish those as they see fit due to negative backlash to their companies

Everyone has freedom of speech, but not freedom from consequences

Well said!

I did neglect to discuss freedom of speech, and certainly agree with freedom of speech. Unfortunately most of us only like the free speech that we agree with, human nature I guess. Free speech can be a fine line. Falsely yelling "Fire" in a crowded movie theater is free speech but dangerous and is against the law.

Is it legal to yell movie theater at a fire? So it's not really just speech at that point, is it. Hehe

Anyone can say what is the right or wrong way to protest. That's free speech too

(10-03-2016 10:03 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  I don't disagree with you, but who is to say what is the right or wrong way to protest?

I find what the sf qb, fb players, and band members deplorable, but it is their right

It's also the companies right to punish those as they see fit due to negative backlash to their companies

Everyone has freedom of speech, but not freedom from consequences

(10-03-2016 10:27 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Is it legal to yell movie theater at a fire? So it's not really just speech at that point, is it. Hehe

Anyone can say what is the right or wrong way to protest. That's free speech too

(10-03-2016 09:02 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  I'm sorry, but I completely stopped watching the NFL after the Kaepernick debacle. My cousin offered me free tickets to an Eagles game later this year, which I will politely decline.

I refuse to support such disrespect for our heroes of our nation. Protesting wrongs are both welcomed and encouraged but there are better ways to protest, ways that don't hurt the vets who fought and died for our country.

Anyone remember Pat Tillman? How do you think he would feel about what has happened?

I can only hope that the counter protest of this particular action grow faster then the protest themselves.

http://blog.ecu.edu/sites/dailyclips/blog/2016/10/03/ecu-band-booed-for-taking-knee-during-national-anthem-time-warner-cable-news/

(10-04-2016 08:25 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  They have the right to protest, and we have the right to protest that protest. Those on scholarship who were involved should lose those scholarships. Not be kicked out of school, but loose the free ride.

(10-04-2016 08:34 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Oh, get over yourself! This is a free country. It doesn't matter if you stand, sit, kneel or **** during the anthem. I hope that you are standing every time you watch a sporting event on your couch (probably not). I hope that you voice your opinion to everyone at a game who talks during the anthem(probably not). By the way, the NFL just started making players line up for the anthem a few years ago. Your favorite college team, Temple, still doesn't stand for the anthem. I hope that your hypocritical @ss boycotts them this weekend.

(10-04-2016 08:35 AM)uhmump95 Wrote:  

(10-04-2016 08:25 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  They have the right to protest, and we have the right to protest that protest. Those on scholarship who were involved should lose those scholarships. Not be kicked out of school, but loose the free ride.

Is there anything in the school code of conduct that says they have to stand during the national anthem? If not, there is no reason they should lose their scholarship.

(10-04-2016 09:04 AM)Bear Wrote:  Good job on the ECU band

It's funny what people choose to get upset about

(10-04-2016 08:56 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(10-04-2016 08:35 AM)uhmump95 Wrote:  

(10-04-2016 08:25 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  They have the right to protest, and we have the right to protest that protest. Those on scholarship who were involved should lose those scholarships. Not be kicked out of school, but loose the free ride.

Is there anything in the school code of conduct that says they have to stand during the national anthem? If not, there is no reason they should lose their scholarship.

Did they play their instruments? Did they follow the formation they were supposed to?

These are things a scholarship band member is expected to do in exchange for their scholarship.

(10-04-2016 09:32 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(10-04-2016 08:56 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(10-04-2016 08:35 AM)uhmump95 Wrote:  

(10-04-2016 08:25 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  They have the right to protest, and we have the right to protest that protest. Those on scholarship who were involved should lose those scholarships. Not be kicked out of school, but loose the free ride.

Is there anything in the school code of conduct that says they have to stand during the national anthem? If not, there is no reason they should lose their scholarship.

Did they play their instruments? Did they follow the formation they were supposed to?

These are things a scholarship band member is expected to do in exchange for their scholarship.

And yet none of them get scholarships...


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(10-04-2016 09:32 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(10-04-2016 08:56 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(10-04-2016 08:35 AM)uhmump95 Wrote:  

(10-04-2016 08:25 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  They have the right to protest, and we have the right to protest that protest. Those on scholarship who were involved should lose those scholarships. Not be kicked out of school, but loose the free ride.

Is there anything in the school code of conduct that says they have to stand during the national anthem? If not, there is no reason they should lose their scholarship.

Did they play their instruments? Did they follow the formation they were supposed to?

These are things a scholarship band member is expected to do in exchange for their scholarship.

And yet none of them get scholarships...


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(10-03-2016 09:02 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  I'm sorry, but I completely stopped watching the NFL after the Kaepernick debacle. My cousin offered me free tickets to an Eagles game later this year, which I will politely decline.

I refuse to support such disrespect for our heroes of our nation. Protesting wrongs are both welcomed and encouraged but there are better ways to protest, ways that don't hurt the vets who fought and died for our country.

Anyone remember Pat Tillman? How do you think he would feel about what has happened?

I can only hope that the counter protest of this particular action grow faster then the protest themselves.

http://blog.ecu.edu/sites/dailyclips/blog/2016/10/03/ecu-band-booed-for-taking-knee-during-national-anthem-time-warner-cable-news/