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ESPN is the big sticking point in Disney's dispute with NY pay-TV operator Altice - orangefan - 09-29-2017 09:04 AM The showdown continues. Big test for ESPN and the ACCN. The article states that Altice is trying to keep prices down so it can compete with OTT services. I would note that if the OTT services have ESPN and Altice does not, that will hurt them with many subscribers and may even accelerate their losses. http://www.latimes.com/businesfor%20three%20years%20beginning%20January,%202017s/hollywood/la-fi-ct-disney-espn-altice-optimum-20170928-story,amp.html Here' an excerpt: Quote:Walt Disney Co. is facing a crucial test of the strength of its ESPN sports empire as a New York pay-TV provider is balking at the Burbank entertainment giant’s contract demands, setting the stage for a high-stakes showdown. RE: ESPN is the big sticking point in Disney's dispute with NY pay-TV operator Altice - Hokie Mark - 09-29-2017 09:48 AM The fact that it's a fight just tells me both sides are trying to get the best deal possible - nothing unusual. The fact that the New York Yankees, Mets, Giants and Jets all play games on ESPN tells me New Yorkers WILL demand ESPN. Here's something to think about - which scenario loses more subscribers for Altice? 1. Hold or reduce the price but lose ABC, ESPN, ESPN2, and Disney, or 2. Raise the price a couple of bucks but keep all those channels? Remember, Altice customers who want ESPN can always cancel cable and sign up for Sling, etc. RE: ESPN is the big sticking point in Disney's dispute with NY pay-TV operator Altice - orangefan - 09-29-2017 10:43 AM (09-29-2017 09:48 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: The fact that it's a fight just tells me both sides are trying to get the best deal possible - nothing unusual. What's interesting is that ESPN bought that one baseball wild card game as a selling point to tell cable companies you have to have us if you want the entire playoffs. Now, they're getting the Yankees in that single game precisely before their contract with Altice runs out (and/or possibly the one game playoff with the Red Sox in the unlikely event of a tie in the division race). Cablevision was notorious for being one of the most difficult cable companies to deal with in carriage negotiations. Altice may have the same folks doing the negotiations now. I recall that YES Network ultimately had to go to court to be added. RE: ESPN is the big sticking point in Disney's dispute with NY pay-TV operator Altice - Hokie Mark - 10-01-2017 07:39 PM UPDATE: RE: ESPN is the big sticking point in Disney's dispute with NY pay-TV operator Altice - TexanMark - 10-01-2017 08:16 PM https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2017-10-01/disney-altice-in-preliminary-deal-to-keep-espn-for-new-yorkers RE: ESPN is the big sticking point in Disney's dispute with NY pay-TV operator Altice - Hokie Mark - 10-01-2017 10:01 PM (10-01-2017 08:16 PM)TexanMark Wrote: https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2017-10-01/disney-altice-in-preliminary-deal-to-keep-espn-for-new-yorkers Quote:Altice also agreed to pick up two collegiate sports networks... Altice will carry the SEC Network... and the yet-to-be launched ACC Network... Of course, no word on the price paid for those networks. RE: ESPN is the big sticking point in Disney's dispute with NY pay-TV operator Altice - orangefan - 10-02-2017 09:05 AM (10-01-2017 10:01 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:(10-01-2017 08:16 PM)TexanMark Wrote: https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2017-10-01/disney-altice-in-preliminary-deal-to-keep-espn-for-new-yorkers "Altice will carry the SEC Network, which features games from schools in the Southeastern Conference, and the yet-to-be launched ACC Network, which features Atlantic Coast Conference teams, the people said. Altice will drop one lesser-watched ESPN channel, the people said." Interesting. I wonder which one. They appear to carry ESPNU, ESPNews, ESPN Classic and ESPN Deportes. Each runs around $0.25/month in carriage fees. I'd guess ESPN Classic, which ESPN has allowed some other carriers to place on their sports tiers. RE: ESPN is the big sticking point in Disney's dispute with NY pay-TV operator Altice - Hokie Mark - 10-06-2017 06:46 AM This statement was released by ESPN about the deal with Altice: Quote:As part of the new multi-year agreement, Optimum will continue to provide its customers widespread access to WABC, Disney Channel, Disney Junior, Disney XD, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, ESPNEWS, ESPN Deportes, ESPN Goal Line, ESPN Bases Loaded, ESPN3 and Freeform, as well as make available additional multiplatform, digital and expanded on-demand content from The Walt Disney Company. Optimum will add ESPN’s SEC Network in late 2018 and launch ACC Network (in place of another ESPN network) in August 2019. The companies also expect to collaborate on ESPN’s direct-to-consumer product, which is slated to launch in early 2018, and have agreed to leverage Altice USA’s data analytics platform. SOURCE: http://es.pn/2wAtidM So, which ESPN channel gets dropped when the ACC Network launches? I'm guessing ESPNews (does anybody actually watch that)? RE: ESPN is the big sticking point in Disney's dispute with NY pay-TV operator Altice - H.U.S.T.L.E. - 10-06-2017 07:45 AM (10-06-2017 06:46 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: So, which ESPN channel gets dropped when the ACC Network launches? I'm guessing ESPNews (does anybody actually watch that)? ESPNews has always been my guess to morph into the linear ACC Network. People love to bash how ESPN has changed Sportscenter and moved towards personality-driven vehicles like SC6 and Sportscenter with SVP , but there are real reasons for those shows to evolve. Who's really watching a sports highlights show any more? With smartphones & all of the scores at our fingertips, there's increasingly less of a need for those types of shows. Same deal with ESPNews. What's really the point any more? If there's really a breaking news story in the world of sports, ESPN has the ticker and they can preempt whatever studio programming is supposed to be shown. Many people speculated that ESPNU would evolve into the ACC Network, but I never understood that rationale. Sure, it has better carriage than ESPNews right now, but that's one of the reasons why it would be silly for them to change ESPNU. By changing ESPNews into the ACCN, you could potentially have another channel with a higher carriage rate. Shifting ESPNU's focus could alienate subscribers in regions that don't care about the ACC. RE: ESPN is the big sticking point in Disney's dispute with NY pay-TV operator Altice - Hokie Mark - 10-06-2017 08:58 AM (10-06-2017 07:45 AM)H.U.S.T.L.E. Wrote:(10-06-2017 06:46 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: So, which ESPN channel gets dropped when the ACC Network launches? I'm guessing ESPNews (does anybody actually watch that)? Makes a lot of sense. A well-educated, intelligent poster! RE: ESPN is the big sticking point in Disney's dispute with NY pay-TV operator Altice - orangefan - 10-06-2017 10:03 AM (10-06-2017 06:46 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: This statement was released by ESPN about the deal with Altice: Altice/Optimum appears to carry ESPN and ESPN2 in its "value" package and ESPNU, ESPNews and ESPN Deportes in its "preferred" package. https://www.optimum.net/cdn/static.tvlistings.optimum.net/ool/static/prod/documents/channel-listings/channel-lineup-GreatNeck.pdf RE: ESPN is the big sticking point in Disney's dispute with NY pay-TV operator Altice - cuseroc - 10-06-2017 10:05 AM (10-06-2017 08:58 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:(10-06-2017 07:45 AM)H.U.S.T.L.E. Wrote:(10-06-2017 06:46 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: So, which ESPN channel gets dropped when the ACC Network launches? I'm guessing ESPNews (does anybody actually watch that)? Yep! Great poster. Glad to have him here. RE: ESPN is the big sticking point in Disney's dispute with NY pay-TV operator Altice - ren.hoek - 10-06-2017 11:24 AM It's been really fun to watch the ACC doomsday cult over the past few years. There was admittedly a brief period of instability, but that ended with the signing of the GOR. Even then, the kool-aid drinkers insisted that the ACCN would never happen and the conference would fall apart. Then the ACCN was announced. The so-called internet TV industry "experts" then proclaimed that the ACCN would never achieve sufficient carriage. This part, along with carriage rates, is still playing out, but the Altice deal is a very good omen. Color me not worried. Go Tigers! (10-06-2017 10:03 AM)orangefan Wrote:(10-06-2017 06:46 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: This statement was released by ESPN about the deal with Altice: RE: ESPN is the big sticking point in Disney's dispute with NY pay-TV operator Altice - Hokie Mark - 10-06-2017 12:25 PM Here's an interesting angle on the Altice deal by All Sports Discussion: Quote:That’s 2.4 Million subscribers that just picked up the ACC Network before nearly 2 years before it launches. source: http://allsportsdiscussion.com/2017/10/04/new-york-cable-provider-altice-will-have-acc-network/ but no, it'll never get distribution anything like the SECN or the BTN... RE: ESPN is the big sticking point in Disney's dispute with NY pay-TV operator Altice - orangefan - 10-06-2017 12:30 PM (10-06-2017 11:24 AM)ren.hoek Wrote: It's been really fun to watch the ACC doomsday cult over the past few years. There was admittedly a brief period of instability, but that ended with the signing of the GOR. Even then, the kool-aid drinkers insisted that the ACCN would never happen and the conference would fall apart. Then the ACCN was announced. The so-called internet TV industry "experts" then proclaimed that the ACCN would never achieve sufficient carriage. This part, along with carriage rates, is still playing out, but the Altice deal is a very good omen. Color me not worried. Interesting factoid, Cablevision (now Altice) was the only significant provider in the country that did not reach a deal with ESPN to carry the SECN previously. Convincing Altice to carry the ACCN at launch is a big deal and a good omen. RE: ESPN is the big sticking point in Disney's dispute with NY pay-TV operator Altice - Lou_C - 10-06-2017 02:24 PM I read somewhere that it's actually a minor Disney channel, not an ESPN channel, that's being dropped. |