Quote:This whiteness manifests in the term “outdoorsy” – a descriptor for those who spend a significant time in the outdoors, who are equipped with the necessary gear, and who feel connected to nature. The image of the “outdoorsy individual” is an exclusive classification that gives white people the authority to venture into the outdoors freely, leaving people of color behind.

(11-19-2017 08:11 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Pencil necked soy boy or mentally ill.

(11-19-2017 08:20 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  I'm going to print this out and share it Friday morning when I arrive at the annual day after Thanksgiving dog drive I've been to my entire life at the predominantly black deer hunt club. Can't wait to hear the laughs of these men who have literally spent their entire lives enjoying the outdoors when they hear that despite the fact they are as black as the ace of spades they are white supremacists.

(11-19-2017 07:48 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote:  Malcolm McCann, a student at Claremont Colleges in California who writes for “The Student Life,” the school’s student paper. His most recent contribution is titled “Insiders and Outsiders in the Outdoors.”

Quote:This whiteness manifests in the term “outdoorsy” – a descriptor for those who spend a significant time in the outdoors, who are equipped with the necessary gear, and who feel connected to nature. The image of the “outdoorsy individual” is an exclusive classification that gives white people the authority to venture into the outdoors freely, leaving people of color behind.

(11-19-2017 08:20 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  I'm going to print this out and share it Friday morning when I arrive at the annual day after Thanksgiving dog drive I've been to my entire life at the predominantly black deer hunt club. Can't wait to hear the laughs of these men who have literally spent their entire lives enjoying the outdoors when they hear that despite the fact they are as black as the ace of spades they are white supremacists.

(11-19-2017 08:20 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  I'm going to print this out and share it Friday morning when I arrive at the annual day after Thanksgiving dog drive I've been to my entire life at the predominantly black deer hunt club. Can't wait to hear the laughs of these men who have literally spent their entire lives enjoying the outdoors when they hear that despite the fact they are as black as the ace of spades they are white supremacists.

(11-20-2017 07:18 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I guess state and national parks are for whites only? Get off your ass and get out there if you are interested in it. Hunters love to help people and let newbies pick their brains.

I didn't start hunting until I was 26 after getting out of the military, finishing undergrad and getting married. Started on my own with a Mossberg 500 I picked up for $175 at a Walmart. Did not have a hunter in my family. Cut my teeth learning in state parks before moving on to private land. 20 years later its become the thing my 16 year old and I spend most of our free time on with habitat projects and planning in off-seasons. Also about the only time I get to spend one on one with him. And yes, I feel privileged and blessed to be able to do so.

(11-20-2017 06:26 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-19-2017 08:20 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  I'm going to print this out and share it Friday morning when I arrive at the annual day after Thanksgiving dog drive I've been to my entire life at the predominantly black deer hunt club. Can't wait to hear the laughs of these men who have literally spent their entire lives enjoying the outdoors when they hear that despite the fact they are as black as the ace of spades they are white supremacists.

What an irony of history that the least racially devise section of the country is the South, despite the stereotypes that that the coastal elites continually propagate.

(11-20-2017 06:26 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-19-2017 08:20 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  I'm going to print this out and share it Friday morning when I arrive at the annual day after Thanksgiving dog drive I've been to my entire life at the predominantly black deer hunt club. Can't wait to hear the laughs of these men who have literally spent their entire lives enjoying the outdoors when they hear that despite the fact they are as black as the ace of spades they are white supremacists.

What an irony of history that the least racially devise section of the country is the South, despite the stereotypes that that the coastal elites continually propagate.

(11-20-2017 10:42 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  I'm not going to dismiss this one so cavalierly.

When I go out in the Ozarks I see a lot of Mexican families visiting parks and wilderness areas. I see some Korean and Chinese faces. A couple of weeks ago I saw an Indian family horsing around taking pictures alongside the road up around Jasper. Not a problem for them.

But I know some black folks who just won't even consider taking a drive into that region and won't get off the interstate. I know of guys getting invited to car or motorcycle events that they would normally attend, but turning it down flat because of the location.

Is there some deliberate attempt to keep only black people out of these areas? Is there some white conspiracy to only let Chinese and Indians visit?

No.

But many really do seem to have a sense that its dangerous or scary or threatening.

Why? Its worth discussing.

And on the flip-side, I know a white guy from out in the sticks who simply will not go into Little Rock for any reason unless he is forced. He probably updates his will before driving through.



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(11-19-2017 08:20 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  I'm going to print this out and share it Friday morning when I arrive at the annual day after Thanksgiving dog drive I've been to my entire life at the predominantly black deer hunt club. Can't wait to hear the laughs of these men who have literally spent their entire lives enjoying the outdoors when they hear that despite the fact they are as black as the ace of spades they are white supremacists.

(11-20-2017 10:58 AM)Lush Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 10:42 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  I'm not going to dismiss this one so cavalierly.

When I go out in the Ozarks I see a lot of Mexican families visiting parks and wilderness areas. I see some Korean and Chinese faces. A couple of weeks ago I saw an Indian family horsing around taking pictures alongside the road up around Jasper. Not a problem for them.

But I know some black folks who just won't even consider taking a drive into that region and won't get off the interstate. I know of guys getting invited to car or motorcycle events that they would normally attend, but turning it down flat because of the location.

Is there some deliberate attempt to keep only black people out of these areas? Is there some white conspiracy to only let Chinese and Indians visit?

No.

But many really do seem to have a sense that its dangerous or scary or threatening.

Why? Its worth discussing.

And on the flip-side, I know a white guy from out in the sticks who simply will not go into Little Rock for any reason unless he is forced. He probably updates his will before driving through.



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word. black people don't like the wilderness. i suppose it could be because a majority of them were herded into semi crowded cities, a process repeated generation after generation. which would remove them further and further from nearby wild. it's not familiar anymore. most black people i know would rather vacation in a city or beach than go to the mountains or a forest cabin. they learned to habit the concrete jungle. it's obviously not universal, but is certainly worth considering.

(11-20-2017 10:58 AM)Lush Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 10:42 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  I'm not going to dismiss this one so cavalierly.

When I go out in the Ozarks I see a lot of Mexican families visiting parks and wilderness areas. I see some Korean and Chinese faces. A couple of weeks ago I saw an Indian family horsing around taking pictures alongside the road up around Jasper. Not a problem for them.

But I know some black folks who just won't even consider taking a drive into that region and won't get off the interstate. I know of guys getting invited to car or motorcycle events that they would normally attend, but turning it down flat because of the location.

Is there some deliberate attempt to keep only black people out of these areas? Is there some white conspiracy to only let Chinese and Indians visit?

No.

But many really do seem to have a sense that its dangerous or scary or threatening.

Why? Its worth discussing.

And on the flip-side, I know a white guy from out in the sticks who simply will not go into Little Rock for any reason unless he is forced. He probably updates his will before driving through.



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word. black people don't like the wilderness. i suppose it could be because a majority of them were herded into semi crowded cities, a process repeated generation after generation. which would remove them further and further from nearby wild. it's not familiar anymore. most black people i know would rather vacation in a city or beach than go to the mountains or a forest cabin. they learned to habit the concrete jungle. it's obviously not universal, but is certainly worth considering.