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TV Negotations - 8BitPirate - 12-06-2017 05:56 PM
They start next year? Anyone know?
RE: TV Negotations - msm96wolf - 12-06-2017 06:02 PM
Logically that makes sense but ESPN has the AAC for two more seasons. In theory, ESPN or the AAC could wait until the end of next season.
RE: TV Negotations - On To Victory - 12-06-2017 06:08 PM
Aresco says negotiations should begin next year, IIRC.
RE: TV Negotations - SublimeKnight - 12-06-2017 06:09 PM
Seems like it's time for the fake realignment talk to start, to drive the price down.
RE: TV Negotations - quo vadis - 12-06-2017 06:28 PM
Two more years on the deal, but usually, if the media partner is hot on the property, it will try to start negotiations well before then to try and sew up a new deal.
So we'll have an early indication if our rights really have gone up a lot in value if ESPN makes overtures during 2018.
RE: TV Negotations - UofMemphis - 12-06-2017 06:30 PM
I'm sure ESPN would like a full seasons worth of numbers for WSU in the AAC before they make an offer...the AAC picked a good time to have a football season like this one.
I'm betting we sit down with ESPN during the summer of 2018 to renegotiate.
RE: TV Negotations - SubGod22 - 12-06-2017 07:06 PM
I seem to remember Aresco saying they would start talking in January. I know it was brought up when he was on one of our local shows after we were officially added tot he conference.
RE: TV Negotations - 8BitPirate - 12-06-2017 07:16 PM
(12-06-2017 06:09 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote: Seems like it's time for the fake realignment talk to start, to drive the price down.
Yeap, need the Big12 to start with their jackassery again....
RE: TV Negotations - otown - 12-06-2017 07:24 PM
(12-06-2017 07:16 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:(12-06-2017 06:09 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote: Seems like it's time for the fake realignment talk to start, to drive the price down.
Best thing for us is for Oklahoma to continue to earn that playoff spot for the next few years.
RE: TV Negotations - Chappy - 12-06-2017 07:32 PM
If UCF, Memphis and South Florida all win their bowl games, could two of them be ranked in the preseason next year? That would be a nice feather to have in the cap while negotiations are going on.
Also, another basketball national champ would be nice!
RE: TV Negotations - 8BitPirate - 12-06-2017 08:18 PM
(12-06-2017 07:32 PM)Chappy Wrote: If UCF, Memphis and South Florida all win their bowl games, could two of them be ranked in the preseason next year? That would be a nice feather to have in the cap while negotiations are going on.
Also, another basketball national champ would be nice!
*looks at Hitachi State*
RE: TV Negotations - BigHouston - 12-06-2017 08:26 PM
(12-06-2017 06:30 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: I'm sure ESPN would like a full seasons worth of numbers for WSU in the AAC before they make an offer...the AAC picked a good time to have a football season like this one.
I'm betting we sit down with ESPN during the summer of 2018 to renegotiate.
AAC is no stranger to good football seasons anymore ... This season is just a reminder that the AAC is for real.
RE: TV Negotations - Stookey57 - 12-06-2017 09:04 PM
ESPN got rid of a ton of Deadwood
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RE: TV Negotations - C0|db|00ded - 12-06-2017 09:42 PM
(12-06-2017 08:18 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:(12-06-2017 07:32 PM)Chappy Wrote: If UCF, Memphis and South Florida all win their bowl games, could two of them be ranked in the preseason next year? That would be a nice feather to have in the cap while negotiations are going on.
Also, another basketball national champ would be nice!
*looks at Hitachi State*
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RE: TV Negotations - goodknightfl - 12-07-2017 09:02 AM
(12-06-2017 08:18 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:(12-06-2017 07:32 PM)Chappy Wrote: If UCF, Memphis and South Florida all win their bowl games, could two of them be ranked in the preseason next year? That would be a nice feather to have in the cap while negotiations are going on.
Also, another basketball national champ would be nice!
*looks at Hitachi State*
A final 4 team would be great on mens side.
RE: TV Negotations - quo vadis - 12-07-2017 09:42 AM
(12-06-2017 07:06 PM)SubGod22 Wrote: I seem to remember Aresco saying they would start talking in January. I know it was brought up when he was on one of our local shows after we were officially added tot he conference.
Fall of 2016, after the Big 12 expansion scare, Aresco said he would be talking with ESPN in December (now a year ago), and we've never heard anything of it.
We'll see what happens.
RE: TV Negotations - The Brown Bull - 12-07-2017 10:04 AM
(12-07-2017 09:42 AM)quo vadis Wrote:(12-06-2017 07:06 PM)SubGod22 Wrote: I seem to remember Aresco saying they would start talking in January. I know it was brought up when he was on one of our local shows after we were officially added tot he conference.
Fall of 2016, after the Big 12 expansion scare, Aresco said he would be talking with ESPN in December (now a year ago), and we've never heard anything of it.
We'll see what happens.
When Aresco asked about renegotiating Espn probably told him
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Thus the lack of news.
RE: TV Negotations - Attackcoog - 12-07-2017 10:15 AM
(12-07-2017 09:42 AM)quo vadis Wrote:(12-06-2017 07:06 PM)SubGod22 Wrote: I seem to remember Aresco saying they would start talking in January. I know it was brought up when he was on one of our local shows after we were officially added tot he conference.
Fall of 2016, after the Big 12 expansion scare, Aresco said he would be talking with ESPN in December (now a year ago), and we've never heard anything of it.
We'll see what happens.
That’s true. Crickets.
To be honest, I always felt that if we were signing early it would have happened last summer. A this point, when your only a year away from getting to test the open market, there isn’t much reason to accept an early deal. Plus, at this point, an early deal would liklely only affect the last year or two of the contract—so the motivation to take extra early money rather than maximize tha contract is reduced. Let us also remember that the BE legacy schools that have been getting a payout of close to 10 million will have a lot of motivation to maximize the next deal and virtually no motivation to settle on a low ball early offer.
RE: TV Negotations - YNot - 12-07-2017 03:31 PM
I've done a bit of research, using the sportsmediawatch website:
http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings/
The average 2017 ABC college football broadcast did about 4M viewers. The median is about 3.5M. The 12pm and 3:30pm ET ABC broadcast average closer to about 3.2-3.4M viewers - and the 7pm ET primetime ABC broadcasts get closer to 6M viewers. The top-10 ABC broadcasts ranged from 5M to 12M viewers.
The average 2017 ESPN college football broadcast does about 2M viewers. The median is about 1.8M. The 10pm ET late night and weeknight games do a little less, closer to 1.7M and the 7pm ET primetime ESPN broadcasts do more, about 3M viewers. The top-10 ESPN broadcasts ranged from 3.5M to 7M viewers.
For 2017 ESPN2, the average is about 650K viewers, with a little more on Saturday and closer to 500K for late 10pm ET Saturday and weeknight games. The median was about 480K. The top-10 ESPN2 broadcasts ranged from about 1M to 2.1M.
The three AAC 2017 regular season games and the AAC CCG on ABC achieved or surpassed the averages. UCF-USF (4.64M), Memphis-UCLA(3.24M), Houston-Texas-Tech(3.85M), and UCF-Memphis(3.8M).
All of the AAC 2017 games on ESPN this year did substantially worse than the average and no where close to the top. Only USF-Illinois was somewhat close to the average, with 1.37M viewers.
The AAC had some above the ESPN2 average, Memphis-Tulsa (683K), Cincinnati-Temple (697K) and Cincinnati-Navy (753K), and some below, UCF-SMU (369K), UCF-Memphis (first time, 442K), USF-Tulane (284K).
What this tells me is that the very best AAC games are worthy of P5 money, but not elite P5 money. The next tier of 6-8 games are worthy of the occasional ESPN or ESPN2 broadcast, but they're not likely to significantly exceed average time slot expectations. There are also a handful of games that are worthy of filler for ESPNU. I'm sure there will be an increase in the AAC contract, but the lack of ability to generate elite ratings will keep the AAC well below even the halfway benchmark compared to P5 payout levels.
RE: TV Negotations - BigHouston - 12-07-2017 04:12 PM
(12-07-2017 03:31 PM)YNot Wrote: I've done a bit of research, using the sportsmediawatch website:
http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings/
The average 2017 ABC college football broadcast did about 4M viewers. The median is about 3.5M. The 12pm and 3:30pm ET ABC broadcast average closer to about 3.2-3.4M viewers - and the 7pm ET primetime ABC broadcasts get closer to 6M viewers. The top-10 ABC broadcasts ranged from 5M to 12M viewers.
The average 2017 ESPN college football broadcast does about 2M viewers. The median is about 1.8M. The 10pm ET late night and weeknight games do a little less, closer to 1.7M and the 7pm ET primetime ESPN broadcasts do more, about 3M viewers. The top-10 ESPN broadcasts ranged from 3.5M to 7M viewers.
For 2017 ESPN2, the average is about 650K viewers, with a little more on Saturday and closer to 500K for late 10pm ET Saturday and weeknight games. The median was about 480K. The top-10 ESPN2 broadcasts ranged from about 1M to 2.1M.
The three AAC 2017 regular season games and the AAC CCG on ABC achieved or surpassed the averages. UCF-USF (4.64M), Memphis-UCLA(3.24M), Houston-Texas-Tech(3.85M), and UCF-Memphis(3.8M).
All of the AAC 2017 games on ESPN this year did substantially worse than the average and no where close to the top. Only USF-Illinois was somewhat close to the average, with 1.37M viewers.
The AAC had some above the ESPN2 average, Memphis-Tulsa (683K), Cincinnati-Temple (697K) and Cincinnati-Navy (753K), and some below, UCF-SMU (369K), UCF-Memphis (first time, 442K), USF-Tulane (284K).
What this tells me is that the very best AAC games are worthy of P5 money, but not elite P5 money. The next tier of 6-8 games are worthy of the occasional ESPN or ESPN2 broadcast, but they're not likely to significantly exceed average time slot expectations. There are also a handful of games that are worthy of filler for ESPNU. I'm sure there will be an increase in the AAC contract, but the lack of ability to generate elite ratings will keep the AAC well below even the halfway benchmark compared to P5 payout levels.
All of the so called p5 programs have gotten decades of tv exposure so yes they shoved down their games down our throats a million times already of course you should expect those type rating numbers.
AAC is only getting started and if exposure equals that from the so called p5 I'm confident we'll see similar type numbers but much sooner, tv ratings I mean.