(10-05-2016 10:24 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(10-05-2016 05:28 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(10-05-2016 01:05 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(10-04-2016 07:10 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(10-04-2016 02:14 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  The top 25 schools in D-II would disagree w/ you. GVSU (25k) is bigger than Fresno St.(22k). Wayne St., San Francisco St. have around 30K students.

Enrollment doesn't matter, competitively both are quite equal.

No they're not, NAIA top schools have little chance against top D-II schools. bottom feeding D-II school can be beat by top NAIA schools. It's like saying FBS and FCS are equal because Michigan lost to App St. and EMU lost to"enter name fcs school". No, the good FCS teams can beat bottom feeding FBS, and NDSU can beat lots of teams but still are not even close to Bama or anyone else high up. Iowa already lost again, they were exposed and not a real top 25 team. Hell the NAIA doesn't even have a NDSU type. Look at Sioux Falls and Lindenwood who were dominant in the NAIA, they've had rough times in D-II they didn't come in and destroy D-II like NDSU did when moving to FCS. NW Mo St. Minn St. GVSU UNA Valdosta Sts. of the world are the big time programs not the recent move ups from NAIA.

I just checked the current top 25 of D-II. Only 2 schools are former NAIA from 2000 on. APU(2011 move up) and Sioux Falls(2009 move up)

I totally disagree. Top 25 naia and top 25 d2 will be quite competitve against each other. In addition, the other sports are competitive also. Take track and field, the records are just the same. Basketball has quite a bit of crossover games and naia teams regularly beat d2 teams.

football and basketball are all I care about. And you don't see the good D-II schools losing to the NAIA schools, you will see Georgetown(KY) and some of the other top bball schools whip the lesser D-II schools. but it's not common. I think what they are, are similar in that most NAIA schools move up to D-II and the ones that drop D-II usually go back to the NAIA. Hardly and D-III move to D-II. Only a few move from D-II to D-III. I care more about the NAIA than D-III because there is more movement to D-II w/ them.

Rob, Sierra Nevada just got full NAIA membership, CPC or GSAC? Do/will they have basketball? I see it's the CPC but no basketball, yet they have men's lax. wtf?

I don't know if they plan on basketball. LAX was something they could do before they were a member of anything. Snow sports were their big thing before they joined.