(02-09-2018 04:13 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-09-2018 03:47 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(02-09-2018 03:27 AM)Ourland Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 03:55 PM)TTT Wrote:  I keep hearing how we shouldn't pay attention to the star ratings...and there is some truth to that. However...

Not every unrated/2-3 star kid is a diamond in the rough and not every 4-5 star kid is Bo Jackson. There are PLENTY of unrated/2-3 star kids who amount to SQUAT in college. I'd be willing to bet the MAJORITY of unrated/2-3 star kids don't have any success in college. On the flipside, there are PLENTY of 4-5 star kids who have a LOT of success in college and the NFL. I'd be willing to bet that half (if not more) of ALL 4-5 star kids have very successful careers in college and/or the NFL. I'd love to see the actual data behind this.

My point it...the higher a kid is ranked coming out of HS/JUCO the greater the chances are of him being very successful in college/nfl. THAT'S why I pay attention to the star rating.

Absolutely. There's definitely a lot of validity to the star rating systems. No, not every 4 or 5-star recruit will be highly successful in college, but they do have the most physical ability based on high school performance. If that isn't true, the top programs wouldn't be fighting over them.

Problem with the 4-5* kids we happen to get is getting them eligible and keeping them eligible and out of trouble. G5 don't get many of those without some concessions in academics or off the field problems. Just a fact of G5 life.

Ourland does not believe in 2nd chances so he does not want these reject kids at Rice. I guess he comes from a higher class and doesn't realize most FB players in poor areas come with some baggage. Football is a game where you learn to be aggressive at a very early age. So by the time you get to the point where you are good enough to play at a FBS level. A lot of times that aggression is not easily turned off just because you are no longer on the field.

So he does not want any player that needs a second chance...not in the class room and not in life. I personally would rather have those kids in school because once they get in that setting......

A lot of those kids go on to be very productive in football and life. That's better for everyone.

What a bunch of horse****.

We've had a bunch of guys who play at Rice get arrested before and maintain their place on the team (including some good players like Philip Gaines). They serve a suspension, get punished in the weight room, and get back out there. The difference is that we don't give second chances to those who have blown their chance at other schools. But hey, once you're at Rice, we'll show some loyalty to you.

Also, you act as if we have an entire team of silver spooners. While we do probably have a higher percentage of white, upper middle-class players on our team, we also routinely sign people from rough inner-city neighborhoods. Schools like Alief Elsik, Dallas Skyline, etc are hardly Phillips Exeter academy.

Also, if you want to talk s*** about Rice, what do you say to the fact that Rice is by almost any measure the most racially diverse school in the conference and also routinely scores among the most economically diverse amongst its peer institutions?