(02-25-2018 11:22 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(02-25-2018 10:29 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-25-2018 09:25 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(02-25-2018 09:11 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(02-25-2018 07:24 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Division 1 conference. One of the 10 FBS conferences. I want them called by what they officially are.

(02-25-2018 07:40 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  D-1?

Why is that so objectionable?

What else do we delineate along completely arbitrary, made up names? Lot of that stuff will get you into trouble...

The term DI is not objectionable. Then again, neither are P5, G5, mid-major, etc. These terms are not inherently derogatory. They simply reflect the very real gap in money, talent, and prestige between the P5 and G5 in FBS and the P6 and mid-majors in basketball. It's naive or misleading to not recognize such a distinction.

I can list several schools who have averaged top 25 in attendance for the past several years in basketball who aren’t “P6”. One of them has a losing record this year and still this year averages 12k in their 16k arena. (New Mexico)
By your definition, DePaul who plays in front of few fans & doesn’t have an arena is a “major” correct?
By your definition, Cincy, Uconn, Wichita St, Memphis, UNLV, SDSU, UNM, BYU, Dayton & St Louis in their big nice arenas that have hosted NCAA tournament games and even final 4’s are “mid-majors” correct?

It's not complicated - "major" can refer to conference or school. E.g., UConn is a "major" basketball program even though it is in the "mid-major" AAC conference.

It can be that way.

So you consider the AAC a mid-major Quo? Is that a fact to you? Gospel?
If so I disagree 100% with you on that.

Yes, AAC performance in college hoops the past five years is text-book "mid-major", where "mid-major" means the next level down from the "major" level.

Major conferences - SEC, Big East, ACC, PAC, B1G, Big 12. They have been categorically better than the AAC the past four years.

According to RealTimeRPI, the AAC has been either the #7 or #8 conference the entire last 5 years. In none of those years have they ever had a better conference RPI than any of the P6 conferences. In contrast, all of the top 6 conferences have spent the entirety of that time within the top 6, ranging up or down inside it, but never outside of it.

That makes the AAC classically mid-major, and so far that hasn't changed with Wichita State. It might change in the future, but on the court so far it hasn't.