(03-06-2018 01:55 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(03-06-2018 01:36 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-06-2018 01:28 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  The reason for an armed citizenry, according to the Founders themselves, was not to protect the people from others or to protect the government from people. The reason was specifically to protect the people from the government.

This is the biggest problem that leftists have with guns. They don't give a tinker's damn about the kids because if they did they wouldn't be ardent supporters of Planned Parenthood.

Of course it is. They've become completely open about their desires for socialist government.

More government control over the people, less objection from the people!

The best way to do that is to void the Bill of Rights.

I hope everyone realizes they've already begun dismantling the 1st Amendment: keep religion out of the public square, ban offensive speech, hijack the press to become propaganda rather than watchdog, not allowing conservative speakers to engage on college campuses.

Exactly!

Far easier to enslave a forcibly pacified populace. Like my sig says: " ... to disarm the people - that was the best and most effectual way to enslave them." -George Mason

We've already seen an example of the totalitarian nature of the left when they forced us at gunpoint to buy health insurance at levels of their choosing, not what was best for our situation. I shudder at the thought of what kind of tyranny would have come out of a Hillary regime.