tigervideoguy Wrote:My point being that the marketing of the U of M is inadequate. The only way we get publicity is if D Wash misses two free throws. I guess you think everything is great...I don't.

You're confusing marketing with public relations.

Triple-T Wrote:

Memphis10Tigers Wrote:Mrs. McCarter is the official faculty representative of the Blue Crew. She does a lot more work behind the scenes promoting this program than you think. One thing I specifically remember her trying to do was get more "famous" people to be the "eye of the tiger" in the pre-game show. She tried sending Justin Timberlake and Cameron Diaz a basket full of tiger stuff so they could be the eye at the UAB game....they didn't want to come.
Point is....some things are just out of the university's control when it comes to national perception. We aren't BCS and the system is definitely unfair, but you have to play the cards you're dealt.

i don't know if this would be the same angela or not, but....

at this year's fan day, i was the first person there. many of us had planned to tailgate as normal and were scheduled to be there about 7-8 that morning, but it was raining like crazy, so i poked around and showed up about 8:30. (remember? they almost canceled the event before it dried up somewhat).

anyway, when i got there, only one vehicle was in sight. from it some girl came running up and helped me get my tents up to at least get out from under the rain. she said that she wanted to be sure to get there early to help our tailgaters any way that she could, and she really appreciated the tents, flags, cooking, etc. she introduced herself as angela, and her cell phone rang constantly while we worked to set up. she said that she forwarded the office phones to her cell to answer any question due to the rain, and would probably be sorry she did that! nothing could be set up early because of the weather, but trucks, trailers, and workers started showing up and she was in total control making sure everyone there knew exactly what needed to be done, and it was not below her to carry plywood and tables to the area.

that said....if the angela that i met that day is the same angela in question, i think the "interum" needs to come off of her title as well. if it's not the same girl, then my hat is off to the one that got soaked helping me that wet morning!
:clap2:

That's a great story. Kudos to Angela, regardless of whether it's Angela McCarter or not!

Triple-T Wrote:

Memphis10Tigers Wrote:Mrs. McCarter is the official faculty representative of the Blue Crew. She does a lot more work behind the scenes promoting this program than you think. One thing I specifically remember her trying to do was get more "famous" people to be the "eye of the tiger" in the pre-game show. She tried sending Justin Timberlake and Cameron Diaz a basket full of tiger stuff so they could be the eye at the UAB game....they didn't want to come.
Point is....some things are just out of the university's control when it comes to national perception. We aren't BCS and the system is definitely unfair, but you have to play the cards you're dealt.

i don't know if this would be the same angela or not, but....

at this year's fan day, i was the first person there. many of us had planned to tailgate as normal and were scheduled to be there about 7-8 that morning, but it was raining like crazy, so i poked around and showed up about 8:30. (remember? they almost canceled the event before it dried up somewhat).

anyway, when i got there, only one vehicle was in sight. from it some girl came running up and helped me get my tents up to at least get out from under the rain. she said that she wanted to be sure to get there early to help our tailgaters any way that she could, and she really appreciated the tents, flags, cooking, etc. she introduced herself as angela, and her cell phone rang constantly while we worked to set up. she said that she forwarded the office phones to her cell to answer any question due to the rain, and would probably be sorry she did that! nothing could be set up early because of the weather, but trucks, trailers, and workers started showing up and she was in total control making sure everyone there knew exactly what needed to be done, and it was not below her to carry plywood and tables to the area.

that said....if the angela that i met that day is the same angela in question, i think the "interum" needs to come off of her title as well. if it's not the same girl, then my hat is off to the one that got soaked helping me that wet morning!
:clap2:

This is sad but true, if most people understood the hours that these folks put in for the pay that they receive the hair on the back of their necks would stand up! At the very least they would run screamin' from the same opportunity to perform this job in the manner that they deem appropriate. Hats off to Angela and crew in our marketing department! We could not do it without that kind of dedication........

cudos for working hard at an event and putting in long hours. That's their job. What about promoting the Tigers around town....any billboards this year, any trading cards for the kids (past 2 years), any meet and greets, any commercials other than Cal with 1st Tn or Kroger? Come on! I love the Tigers, but get the name out, don't just depend on true blue fans. Any pep rallys, any interview onlocal radio, pre-game tiger events on Beale, open practice for the fans, autograph sessions after the game? Think how happy your kid would be to meet the Tiger players.....

There are plenty of things that don't cost a lot of money that would create fan interaction. I think some older fans fell asleep during the action packed midnight madness. That was a media relations chance to show off...I went, did you? If you watched any other teams that night, ours was week and very little was done to excite the fans.

We don't have the excitement that some other schools have. Granted we are a commuter school, but we can even get some people to wear blue to the games. Marketing, public relations, whatever. Memphis should be about supporting the Tigers, but the University needs to make a better effort to be more fan friendly.

tigervideoguy Wrote:cudos for working hard at an event and putting in long hours. That's their job. What about promoting the Tigers around town....any billboards this year, any trading cards for the kids (past 2 years), any meet and greets, any commercials other than Cal with 1st Tn or Kroger? Come on! I love the Tigers, but get the name out, don't just depend on true blue fans. Any pep rallys, any interview onlocal radio, pre-game tiger events on Beale, open practice for the fans, autograph sessions after the game? Think how happy your kid would be to meet the Tiger players.....

There are plenty of things that don't cost a lot of money that would create fan interaction. I think some older fans fell asleep during the action packed midnight madness. That was a media relations chance to show off...I went, did you? If you watched any other teams that night, ours was week and very little was done to excite the fans.

We don't have the excitement that some other schools have. Granted we are a commuter school, but we can even get some people to wear blue to the games. Marketing, public relations, whatever. Memphis should be about supporting the Tigers, but the University needs to make a better effort to be more fan friendly.

Seriously, while some of your comments are right on, your critique loses a great deal of luster when you don't know the difference between what the marketing people do, and what the sports information people do.

There's a big difference between marketing and PR.

tigervideoguy Wrote:cudos for working hard at an event and putting in long hours. That's their job. What about promoting the Tigers around town....any billboards this year, any trading cards for the kids (past 2 years), any meet and greets, any commercials other than Cal with 1st Tn or Kroger? Come on! I love the Tigers, but get the name out, don't just depend on true blue fans. Any pep rallys, any interview onlocal radio, pre-game tiger events on Beale, open practice for the fans, autograph sessions after the game? Think how happy your kid would be to meet the Tiger players.....

There are plenty of things that don't cost a lot of money that would create fan interaction. I think some older fans fell asleep during the action packed midnight madness. That was a media relations chance to show off...I went, did you? If you watched any other teams that night, ours was week and very little was done to excite the fans.

We don't have the excitement that some other schools have. Granted we are a commuter school, but we can even get some people to wear blue to the games. Marketing, public relations, whatever. Memphis should be about supporting the Tigers, but the University needs to make a better effort to be more fan friendly.

good lord - do you walk around with your head down looking at your shoes all day?

there are billboards all over town - some with the victory theme, some (one on union near the stadium) that have the upcoming games on them with ticket office number. there are bus signage and shelter inserts all over town. do you not watch television because there was a GREAT football commercial produced that ran just about all season long. jack eaton cut a series of radio ads for EACH home football game that i heard at least once a day. both football fan day AND midnight madness (one of only a few shown nationally i might add) were great events. Im an old fart and i promise I enjoyed every minute of the "practice" and stood in the worlds longest line to get a schedule poster signed by the players - a line that was constantly worked and loved on by anglea and her folks. i left football fan fest much pleased over the instant improvements shown in just a short time. give her a fair chance before you get all snotty.

anglea took over a marketing department that was left in a shambles by the former "director". pumping the bilge dry and getting the ship trimmed and floating on a minimum budget has been a heroic effort.

perhaps you might bone up on both your reading comprehension skills AND general knowledge of whats going on over at the AOB before deciding to engage in a bit of premature postulation.

tigerjeb Wrote:

tigervideoguy Wrote:cudos for working hard at an event and putting in long hours. That's their job. What about promoting the Tigers around town....any billboards this year, any trading cards for the kids (past 2 years), any meet and greets, any commercials other than Cal with 1st Tn or Kroger? Come on! I love the Tigers, but get the name out, don't just depend on true blue fans. Any pep rallys, any interview onlocal radio, pre-game tiger events on Beale, open practice for the fans, autograph sessions after the game? Think how happy your kid would be to meet the Tiger players.....

There are plenty of things that don't cost a lot of money that would create fan interaction. I think some older fans fell asleep during the action packed midnight madness. That was a media relations chance to show off...I went, did you? If you watched any other teams that night, ours was week and very little was done to excite the fans.

We don't have the excitement that some other schools have. Granted we are a commuter school, but we can even get some people to wear blue to the games. Marketing, public relations, whatever. Memphis should be about supporting the Tigers, but the University needs to make a better effort to be more fan friendly.

good lord - do you walk around with your head down looking at your shoes all day?

there are billboards all over town - some with the victory theme, some (one on union near the stadium) that have the upcoming games on them with ticket office number. there are bus signage and shelter inserts all over town. do you not watch television because there was a GREAT football commercial produced that ran just about all season long. jack eaton cut a series of radio ads for EACH home football game that i heard at least once a day. both football fan day AND midnight madness (one of only a few shown nationally i might add) were great events. Im an old fart and i promise I enjoyed every minute of the "practice" and stood in the worlds longest line to get a schedule poster signed by the players - a line that was constantly worked and loved on by anglea and her folks. i left football fan fest much pleased over the instant improvements shown in just a short time. give her a fair chance before you get all snotty.

anglea took over a marketing department that was left in a shambles by the former "director". pumping the bilge dry and getting the ship trimmed and floating on a minimum budget has been a heroic effort.

perhaps you might bone up on both your reading comprehension skills AND general knowledge of whats going on over at the AOB before deciding to engage in a bit of premature postulation.

damn right jeb.

Besides Jeb hitting the nail on the head, I give mad props to Angela for being a full-time mommy and director of marketing for the AD. I've worked every Tiger basketball game for the last 3 and a half years and she's been at every one since she's been employed and she busts her tail to do what she can in-arena and elsewhere to promote Tiger athletics. It would also help if she had full control over the media advertising and promotions, but she doesn't. Contact Tiger Sports Properties if you want to complain about the lack of Tiger promotions and advertising...that's their contractual duties.

tigerpikapp Wrote:Besides Jeb hitting the nail on the head, I give mad props to Angela for being a full-time mommy and director of marketing for the AD. I've worked every Tiger basketball game for the last 3 and a half years and she's been at every one since she's been employed and she busts her tail to do what she can in-arena and elsewhere to promote Tiger athletics. It would also help if she had full control over the media advertising and promotions, but she doesn't. Contact Tiger Sports Properties if you want to complain about the lack of Tiger promotions and advertising...that's their contractual duties.

I have seen a lot of improvement in marketing lately and those that are aware of her work seem to be impressed -- sounds like Angela is on the right track ;-)

BinghamptonNed Wrote:

tigerpikapp Wrote:Besides Jeb hitting the nail on the head, I give mad props to Angela for being a full-time mommy and director of marketing for the AD. I've worked every Tiger basketball game for the last 3 and a half years and she's been at every one since she's been employed and she busts her tail to do what she can in-arena and elsewhere to promote Tiger athletics. It would also help if she had full control over the media advertising and promotions, but she doesn't. Contact Tiger Sports Properties if you want to complain about the lack of Tiger promotions and advertising...that's their contractual duties.

I have seen a lot of improvement in marketing lately and those that are aware of her work seem to be impressed -- sounds like Angela is on the right track ;-)

I think she's done a great job. Her work with the Blue Crew has been pretty awesome too, at least someone's working with the student body to strengthen support and trying to create a unique experience at FedExForum.

BrianJ Wrote:

tigervideoguy Wrote:cudos for working hard at an event and putting in long hours. That's their job. What about promoting the Tigers around town....any billboards this year, any trading cards for the kids (past 2 years), any meet and greets, any commercials other than Cal with 1st Tn or Kroger? Come on! I love the Tigers, but get the name out, don't just depend on true blue fans. Any pep rallys, any interview onlocal radio, pre-game tiger events on Beale, open practice for the fans, autograph sessions after the game? Think how happy your kid would be to meet the Tiger players.....

There are plenty of things that don't cost a lot of money that would create fan interaction. I think some older fans fell asleep during the action packed midnight madness. That was a media relations chance to show off...I went, did you? If you watched any other teams that night, ours was week and very little was done to excite the fans.

We don't have the excitement that some other schools have. Granted we are a commuter school, but we can even get some people to wear blue to the games. Marketing, public relations, whatever. Memphis should be about supporting the Tigers, but the University needs to make a better effort to be more fan friendly.

Seriously, while some of your comments are right on, your critique loses a great deal of luster when you don't know the difference between what the marketing people do, and what the sports information people do.

There's a big difference between marketing and PR.

Which was exacty the point of my initial post. If one wants to complain, one should know exactly what one is complaining about. This thread seems to be a "complain stew", where everyone just gets thrown into the pot and stirred up for whatever is bothering someone.

Guys, I get the chance to work with Angela from time to time on this and that, and I can tell you right now that she is head and shoulders above her predecessors. Her position is a tough one...it's called 'Marketing Director', but you really aren't. She has VERY limited resources available to her, and, unfortunately, the person who held the position before her burned all the bridges and left things in shambles. I can tell you from first-hand experience that she does the best she can with what she has to work with. Blaming her for poor marketing is like blaming Dave Brown for bad weather...too much of it is beyond her control.

If you as a fan want marketing to be better, here's what YOU should do: Buy a bowl ticket, even if you aren't going. Buy season tickets to Football basketball, baseball, women basketball, and volleyball. Give what you can to TSF. Attend as many games as you possibly can, home and away, for all the sports. Convince your friends and family to do the same.

Why will you doing this help marketing get better?

Because if everybody does these things, it will help us look better to a BCS conference. Get in there, and there is plenty of expendible cash to go around for things like exciting marketing plans. Our friends to the south in oxford and starkville, both home to horrible Football this year, will cash revenue sharing checks this year larger than our entire Football budget. We ALL need to be focused on this important survival point. Get over that hurdle, and marketing and the ticket office and everything else that everyone likes to complain about over here incessantly will get better.

Legions of people complaining solves nothing. Legions of people working to support a common cause and reach specific goals...now you have something....

Soapbox over.

TFS

:uberbow: :uberbow: :uberbow: :uberbow:

Angela is doing an excellent job and is far, far better to work with than Syra ( )

Speaking of marketing----Anyone SERIOUSLY INTERESTED in helping me distribute basketball schedule cards and/or posters in different parts of town at area business----email me. UMGSN1@aol.com
I have a great time doing it. I get to meet ALL kinds of people, some who are tiger fans, some who want to be. (I also meet some idiots as well --hahahaha)

TigerFanScott Wrote:

BrianJ Wrote:

tigervideoguy Wrote:cudos for working hard at an event and putting in long hours. That's their job. What about promoting the Tigers around town....any billboards this year, any trading cards for the kids (past 2 years), any meet and greets, any commercials other than Cal with 1st Tn or Kroger? Come on! I love the Tigers, but get the name out, don't just depend on true blue fans. Any pep rallys, any interview onlocal radio, pre-game tiger events on Beale, open practice for the fans, autograph sessions after the game? Think how happy your kid would be to meet the Tiger players.....

There are plenty of things that don't cost a lot of money that would create fan interaction. I think some older fans fell asleep during the action packed midnight madness. That was a media relations chance to show off...I went, did you? If you watched any other teams that night, ours was week and very little was done to excite the fans.

We don't have the excitement that some other schools have. Granted we are a commuter school, but we can even get some people to wear blue to the games. Marketing, public relations, whatever. Memphis should be about supporting the Tigers, but the University needs to make a better effort to be more fan friendly.

Seriously, while some of your comments are right on, your critique loses a great deal of luster when you don't know the difference between what the marketing people do, and what the sports information people do.

There's a big difference between marketing and PR.

Which was exacty the point of my initial post. If one wants to complain, one should know exactly what one is complaining about. This thread seems to be a "complain stew", where everyone just gets thrown into the pot and stirred up for whatever is bothering someone.

Guys, I get the chance to work with Angela from time to time on this and that, and I can tell you right now that she is head and shoulders above her predecessors. Her position is a tough one...it's called 'Marketing Director', but you really aren't. She has VERY limited resources available to her, and, unfortunately, the person who held the position before her burned all the bridges and left things in shambles. I can tell you from first-hand experience that she does the best she can with what she has to work with. Blaming her for poor marketing is like blaming Dave Brown for bad weather...too much of it is beyond her control.

If you as a fan want marketing to be better, here's what YOU should do: Buy a bowl ticket, even if you aren't going. Buy season tickets to Football basketball, baseball, women basketball, and volleyball. Give what you can to TSF. Attend as many games as you possibly can, home and away, for all the sports. Convince your friends and family to do the same.

Why will you doing this help marketing get better?

Because if everybody does these things, it will help us look better to a BCS conference. Get in there, and there is plenty of expendible cash to go around for things like exciting marketing plans. Our friends to the south in oxford and starkville, both home to horrible Football this year, will cash revenue sharing checks this year larger than our entire Football budget. We ALL need to be focused on this important survival point. Get over that hurdle, and marketing and the ticket office and everything else that everyone likes to complain about over here incessantly will get better.

Legions of people complaining solves nothing. Legions of people working to support a common cause and reach specific goals...now you have something....

Soapbox over.

TFS

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I was going to post an attaboy reply, but the best I can get is tigervideo has to be an absolute idiot. Bravo TFS.

Careful, you're becoming a semi-regular here again.

I might be an idiot, but I go to all mens'sTiger basketball games and all Lady Tiger games. You can cuss me all you want, maybe I missed the billboard, but what about my other ideas about "marketing" or whatever the hell you want to call it. I gave my reasons, can't you read. Comment on pep rallys, various autograph sessions, meet and greets etc. All you say is the "marketing" dept is better than it was. So what, 1 is better than zero, so what! I'm not blaming anyone, but I still, no matter what you call me, think that the marketing, public relations or whatever is lacking. As noted, you didn't comment on any ideas I posted, you just want to take shots at me. Fine.

Before you call me an idiot, give an answer my other suggestions. Or, do you not have original ideas....attaboy!

I think the point is that, while there are loads of things to do to improve marketing, sales, public relations, etc., we have seen improvement and it should build on itself.

I would LOVE to have a big pep rally at the Liberty Bowl Stadium before next season, with tailgating and everything, and have the crowd "practice" with the cheer squad and get everybody pumped up.

Maybe Ned and me can get that done................... lmfao

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OK, the name-calling is uncalled for. You may not agree with what tigervideoguy has to say, but respect his right to say it. I believe we do have it in our abilities to disagree with proper decorum.

-----We now continue with our regularly scheduled programming-----

Point duly taken. I want to apologize to everyone on the board for using the term idiot to describe a poster that obviously has limited intellect in the matter with which he has posted his opinion on. He has every right to post his opinion, and this certainly does not make him an idiot, just uninformed, and lacking knowledge of what exactly IS BEING DONE. Most people would take the time to find out what is being done before blasting away, I am truly sorry. No, really I am. Seriously.

Hey jackleg...
I may not be informed but I posted questions about pep rallys, autograph sessions etc. Why don't you tell me exactly what is going on. It doesn't take a lot for someone to meet you at a tailgate party or a game and make you feel good. You are a fan, you are there anyway. What about publicizing Tiger Basketball around town. We can agree to disagree. Crawl back in you hole and quit calling me names, or walk 5 miles to your nearest neighbor and tell them just WHAT IS GOING on at the U of M. Broad statements like that indicate to me you either can't express you thoughts in sentences or you don't have the facts to back it up.

I'm gone....Happy now!

tigervideoguy Wrote:Hey jackleg...
I may not be informed but I posted questions about pep rallys, autograph sessions etc. Why don't you tell me exactly what is going on. It doesn't take a lot for someone to meet you at a tailgate party or a game and make you feel good. You are a fan, you are there anyway. What about publicizing Tiger Basketball around town. We can agree to disagree. Crawl back in you hole and quit calling me names, or walk 5 miles to your nearest neighbor and tell them just WHAT IS GOING on at the U of M. Broad statements like that indicate to me you either can't express you thoughts in sentences or you don't have the facts to back it up.

I'm gone....Happy now!

Point duly taken. I want to apologize to everyone on the board for using the term idiot to describe this poster that obviously has limited intellect in the matter with which he has posted his opinion on. He has every right to post his opinion, and this certainly does not make him an idiot, just uninformed, and lacking knowledge of what exactly IS BEING DONE. Most people would take the time to find out what is being done before blasting away, I am truly sorry. No, really I am. Seriously.

BTW, would "jackleg" be "name calling"?