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pirate65 Wrote:Mongo the turncoat creep, knows its about markets and $$$$$$$......he knows the ACC blindly left the large and overlooked tidewater market and $$$$$$ wide open. the tidewater market is a BCS market and the SEC will see it. the ACC  flat took it for granted.sure the ACC has support in tidewater soft support...a mile wide but only an inch deep.....the closest ACC  school is 200 miles away(UVA) VATech is 400+miles away) the last time they played in tidewater(UVA) couldn't even sell its share of tickets(Oyster Bowl) ECU sold out the Oyster Bowl when we played in it.....ECU, is the closest D1 program to that huge, and for some unknown reason, overlooked and undervalued, tidewater market. ECU has always drawn fans and players from tidewater.....ECUs afiliation with the SEC will change everthing in that close by market....tens of thousands of football fans from tidewater will be making the short trip to ECU to see a SEC football game.....within 10 years.....the ACC has a hart attack :roflol:.......now, there is a slight chance that the ACC will see this market and ECUs procsimitry to it.....before the SEC cherry picks ECU and its ties to tidewater's large unifiliated market  05-nono
Wow. Just.....just wow. I never knew somebody could be that incoherent and not drunk.
incoherent, is the fact that the ACC left the largest unifiliated sports market in the USA......wide open :roflol:
06-24-2004 01:46 AM
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pirate65 Wrote:incoherent, is the fact that the ACC left the largest unifiliated sports market in the USA......wide open :roflol:
Hmm... Better sports programs vs big market? I wonder which one wins. Face it. ECU can't compete in the ACC or the SEC. We don't want you, and I'm sure the SEC doesn't want you either.
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T-Monay820 Wrote:
pirate65 Wrote:incoherent, is the fact that the ACC left the largest unifiliated sports market in the USA......wide open :roflol:
Hmm... Better sports programs vs big market? I wonder which one wins. Face it. ECU can't compete in the ACC or the SEC. We don't want you, and I'm sure the SEC doesn't want you either.
no one said we could compete in the ACC or SEC right now.......this all woun't happen unless ECU wins in CUSA......this is at liest 5+ years away........but if we win... SEC ,afiliation will change everything 03-wink
06-24-2004 06:34 PM
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What market, what the hell are you talking about? The ACC doesn't cater to the inbred toiletwater (or where ever the hell you're from) market. The ACC teams play to real cities with real audiences who care about the sport. If backwater needs you to be in the SEC so they can cheer for you well my friend that's just plain f***ing sad.
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geomon Wrote:What market, what the hell are you talking about? The ACC doesn't cater to the inbred toiletwater (or where ever the hell you're from) market. The ACC teams play to real cities with real audiences who care about the sport. If backwater needs you to be in the SEC so they can cheer for you well my friend that's just plain f***ing sad.
what the f*** are you talking about? sure the ACC got the giant markets in Blacksburg Va?....and....Clemson SC? , and the ACC then blindly.....left a market of 4+million,under its nose, wide open...... to bring in a school(BC) from way up north,1500 miles away....that no one in the ACC aera gives a rats a$$ about......... very sad, :roflol:
06-24-2004 11:30 PM
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pirate65 Wrote:what the f*** are you talking about? sure the ACC got the giant markets in Blacksburg Va?....and....Clemson SC? , and the ACC then blindly.....left a market of 4+million,under its nose, wide open...... to bring in a school(BC) from way up north,1500 miles away....that no one in the ACC aera gives a rats a$$ about......... very sad, :roflol:
Dude, the ACC was founded with seven members, of which Clemson was an original member. No member has ever been kicked out. Lets look and see what the ACC got in the expansion:

BC: 8-5 with a postseason bid and victory in the San Fran Bowl in FB
24-10 with a 2nd round loss to Ga Tech in Basketball

VT: 8-4 with a Bowl appearance in FB
15-14 Basketball record

Miami: 10-2 with an Orange Bowl victory in FB
14-16 in Basketball

And here's what ECU offers:
1-11 in FB with the only win being a 6 pt victory over Army!
13-14 in Basketball

Face it. ECU has nothing to offer to the ACC. Your "market" means nothing if your programs can't even win 14 games combined.
06-25-2004 01:19 AM
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T-Monay820 Wrote:
pirate65 Wrote:what the f*** are you talking about? sure the ACC got the giant markets in Blacksburg Va?....and....Clemson SC? , and the ACC then blindly.....left a market of 4+million,under its nose, wide open...... to bring in a school(BC) from way up north,1500 miles away....that no one in the ACC aera gives a rats a$$ about.........  very sad, :roflol:
Dude, the ACC was founded with seven members, of which Clemson was an original member. No member has ever been kicked out. Lets look and see what the ACC got in the expansion:

BC: 8-5 with a postseason bid and victory in the San Fran Bowl in FB
24-10 with a 2nd round loss to Ga Tech in Basketball

VT: 8-4 with a Bowl appearance in FB
15-14 Basketball record

Miami: 10-2 with an Orange Bowl victory in FB
14-16 in Basketball

And here's what ECU offers:
1-11 in FB with the only win being a 6 pt victory over Army!
13-14 in Basketball

Face it. ECU has nothing to offer to the ACC. Your "market" means nothing if your programs can't even win 14 games combined.
what have i said? ECU picked the worst times to tank......ECU must win!!! or we are stuck in CUSA foever.............we could have the largest market in the world if we dont win we are.....out of the picture......but, if we win ,we will be part of the BE when it splits.....or the SEC..........we better start winning or we have little chance of moving out of the CUSA if we don't :rolleyes: lots of things in college football in the next few years will change again......its all about $$$$$$$$ and markets......ECU has strong local fan support win or lose........but to bring in that bigger market we must win......we know that 04-rock
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First order of business: ECU needs about 4 consecutive years of winning.

THEN...and only then should fans start talking about what conferences MIGHT consider inviting them to the big game.

I'd say you're about 6-7 years too early with this "SEC wants us" talk.
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pirate65 Wrote:to bring in a school(BC) from way up north,1500 miles away....that no one in the ACC aera gives a rats a$$ about......... very sad, :roflol:
To be fair, I won't compare ECU's record to BC. Instead I'll put up ECU against Duke "The Worst ACC Team". I'm sure after everyone reads this, riots will break out to get the mighty pirates into the conference.


ECU is 347-323-12 All-Time while Duke is 439-409-31 All-Time.

ECU has only ever been ranked once in the top ten while Duke has been 4 times.

ECU has 5 conference championships while Duke only has a mere 17.

ECU has 5 wins against SEC teams while Duke only has a winning record with 52 wins and 46 losses against them.

You were right man. Greenville is the obvious choice. :roflol:
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geomon Wrote:
pirate65 Wrote:to bring in a school(BC) from way up north,1500 miles away....that no one in the ACC aera gives a rats a$$ about.........  very sad, :roflol:
To be fair, I won't compare ECU's record to BC. Instead I'll put up ECU against Duke "The Worst ACC Team". I'm sure after everyone reads this, riots will break out to get the mighty pirates into the conference.


ECU is 347-323-12 All-Time while Duke is 439-409-31 All-Time.

ECU has only ever been ranked once in the top ten while Duke has been 4 times.

ECU has 5 conference championships while Duke only has a mere 17.

ECU has 5 wins against SEC teams while Duke only has a winning record with 52 wins and 46 losses against them.

You were right man. Greenville is the obvious choice. :roflol:
Duke has been playing D1 or major college football for longer then ECU has been in existance.......so has BC......that point is a given........Duke's record is great......so is BC's. it dosn't change the fact that the ACC left a market thats under there nose wide open :rolleyes:
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pirate65 Wrote:it dosn't change the fact that the ACC left a market thats under there nose wide open :rolleyes:
Face it...the ACC doesn't want that market if the albatross known as ECU comes with it. However, individual ACC schools will continue to play ECU for the guaranteed win each year... :laugh:
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geomon Wrote:Instead I'll put up ECU against Duke "The Worst ACC Team".
If you're talking football, you need to change it to UNC. 4-8 vs 2-10.

Go Duke!
06-26-2004 05:48 PM
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T-Monay820 Wrote:
geomon Wrote:Instead I'll put up ECU against Duke "The Worst ACC Team".
If you're talking football, you need to change it to UNC. 4-8 vs 2-10.

Go Duke!
Well, I put it in quotes cause it seems to change every year. :D
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Lucy Wrote:First order of business: ECU needs about 4 consecutive years of winning.

THEN...and only then should fans start talking about what conferences MIGHT consider inviting them to the big game.

I'd say you're about 6-7 years too early with this "SEC wants us" talk.
ECU needs to do something it hasn't done since the Pirates left the Southern Conference....

Win several conference championships in football. Actually, ECU needs to return to the SoCon, or the CAA before both conferences pass her by.
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geomon Wrote:Well, I put it in quotes cause it seems to change every year. :D
Well ya'll should look out:

Duke beat GT who beat NC State who beat Clemson who beat FSU who beat Colorado who beat UCLA who beat California who beat USC.

Clearly Duke should be number one in the polls and been in the Championship game because they could beat USC through my evidence. :D
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FYI...

ECU, way back in the day, from 1972-1979, posted 8 consecutive winning seasons.

In the 24 seasons that have followed, ECU has yet to even string together 4 consecutive winning seasons.
Of those 24 seasons, ECU has posted "winning records" in 11, while posting non-winning records in the other 13.

In those 24 seasons, ECU has yet to capture a conference championship. Yes, you say she played as an independent for 17 years, but noone told her she had to leave the Southern Conference in the first place, forfeiting opportunity after opportunity to continue winning SoCon titles like she was doing on a regular basis back in the early-to-mid '70.

And now as a member of C-USA, ECU has yet to finish as champion despite being a "favorite" as many have claimed. I guess if you can beat Miami two times in a row, you should be able to win C-USA. At least that's what your average PirateFan will tell you. But, still, no titles..

With that type of history, it's virtually impossible to be attractive to any conference, let alone, the SEC.
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pirate65 Wrote:it dosn't change the fact that the ACC left a market thats under there nose wide open  :rolleyes:
Southern Florida, the entire state of Virginia, and a major New England city vs. the state where we already have four major schools.

what a choice! what were we thinking?? the state of Norht Carolina sure didnt have any market-I mean who in their right mind would watch Duke, UNC, NC State, and Wake in the state of NC?
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pirate65 Wrote:it dosn't change the fact that the ACC left a market thats under there nose wide openĀ  :rolleyes:
Southern Florida, the entire state of Virginia, and a major New England city vs. the state where we already have four major schools.

what a choice! what were we thinking?? the state of Norht Carolina sure didnt have any market-I mean who in their right mind would watch Duke, UNC, NC State, and Wake in the state of NC?
i get back to Va Beach every year.....the sports media and the sports talk (i tune in when i drive around that part of tidewater) are always bi*ching & moaning about how big there market is and that they have no major league sports franchise or local D1 football in that overlooked , undervalued and taken for granted, by the ACC,market.......the fact is that the SEC has taken a look.......and is going to grab this market... from right under there nose........within 10 years :roflol:
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MongoSlade Wrote:FYI...

ECU, way back in the day, from 1972-1979, posted 8 consecutive winning seasons.

In the 24 seasons that have followed, ECU has yet to even string together 4 consecutive winning seasons.
Of those 24 seasons, ECU has posted "winning records" in 11, while posting non-winning records in the other 13.

In those 24 seasons, ECU has yet to capture a conference championship. Yes, you say she played as an independent for 17 years, but noone told her she had to leave the Southern Conference in the first place, forfeiting opportunity after opportunity to continue winning SoCon titles like she was doing on a regular basis back in the early-to-mid '70.

And now as a member of C-USA, ECU has yet to finish as champion despite being a "favorite" as many have claimed. I guess if you can beat Miami two times in a row, you should be able to win C-USA. At least that's what your average PirateFan will tell you. But, still, no titles..

With that type of history, it's virtually impossible to be attractive to any conference, let alone, the SEC.
Mongo you turncoat.....you know very well that ECU....won the LibertyBowl Alliance (the same CUSA schools afiliation, before they put the CUSA name on it) twice......and ECUs traveling well saved the Liberty Bowl........you also know that ECU sold out the Oyster Bowl(in Norfolk Va) when we were chosen to play in it.......a high and mighty ACC school couldn't even sell its ticket allotment........the ACC might have support in tidewater but when it came time to play there they couldn't even fill Forman Field.......but ECU shure did :roflol:
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