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Joseph Wilson was married to Valerie Plame Wilson (“Valerie Wilson

Oddball, I'm interested in what you think of this report from yesterday's <a href='http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/01/AR2005110101644.html' target='_blank'>Washington Post</a>:

Quote:The CIA has been hiding and interrogating some of its most important al Qaeda captives at a Soviet-era compound in Eastern Europe, according to U.S. and foreign officials familiar with the arrangement.

The secret facility is part of a covert prison system set up by the CIA nearly four years ago that at various times has included sites in eight countries, including Thailand, Afghanistan and several democracies in Eastern Europe, as well as a small center at the Guantanamo Bay prison in Cuba, according to current and former intelligence officials and diplomats from three continents.

The hidden global internment network is a central element in the CIA's unconventional war on terrorism. It depends on the cooperation of foreign intelligence services, and on keeping even basic information about the system secret from the public, foreign officials and nearly all members of Congress charged with overseeing the CIA's covert actions.

The existence and locations of the facilities--referred to as "black sites" in classified White House, CIA, Justice Department and congressional documents--are known to only a handful of officials in the United States and, usually, only to the president and a few top intelligence officers in each host country.

Isn't it amazing how upset Oddball and the rest of the Angry Left pretend to be about the so-called outing of Plame?
The sound you don't hear is their outrage at the Post's exposing something that really is covert and vital to national security.

Oddball Wrote:Fitzgerald isn't done.

You keep holding on to that junior.

Quote:He stated in his press conference that there was no way to indict at this time due to the degree of lying and covering up done by this administration.

I've seen several people like you say this but that's not he said. He said the process is "frustrated" when people don't tell the truth but the FBI and investigators have to deal with lies all the time.

The fact is if he thought the leaking of the name constituted a crime, he would have indicted on it as well.

Quote:Plame's identity was classified information. Revealing her identity put many other agents at risk.

Proof? Please note your opinion, the opinion of the DNC, moveon.org, democraticunderground, Howard Dean, Saint Joe Wilson etc. don't qualify as proof.

Quote:That is traitorous no matter how you flat-earthers spin it and circle jerk over it.

You are clearly obsessed with circle jerks. Clearly you must have vast experience with it.

What's really hilarious is I'm sure you're considered one of the greatest minds of your party. That's why you lose in national election after national election. :wave: :laugh: :laugh:

Road Warrior Wrote:Oddball, I'm interested in what you think of this report from yesterday's <a href='http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/01/AR2005110101644.html' target='_blank'>Washington Post</a>:

Quote:The CIA has been hiding and interrogating some of its most important al Qaeda captives at a Soviet-era compound in Eastern Europe, according to U.S. and foreign officials familiar with the arrangement.

The secret facility is part of a covert prison system set up by the CIA nearly four years ago that at various times has included sites in eight countries, including Thailand, Afghanistan and several democracies in Eastern Europe, as well as a small center at the Guantanamo Bay prison in Cuba, according to current and former intelligence officials and diplomats from three continents.

The hidden global internment network is a central element in the CIA's unconventional war on terrorism. It depends on the cooperation of foreign intelligence services, and on keeping even basic information about the system secret from the public, foreign officials and nearly all members of Congress charged with overseeing the CIA's covert actions.

The existence and locations of the facilities--referred to as "black sites" in classified White House, CIA, Justice Department and congressional documents--are known to only a handful of officials in the United States and, usually, only to the president and a few top intelligence officers in each host country.

Isn't it amazing how upset Oddball and the rest of the Angry Left pretend to be about the so-called outing of Plame?
The sound you don't hear is their outrage at the Post's exposing something that really is covert and vital to national security.

What's amazing is how you want to change the subject away from what a Republican prosecutor like Fitzgerald had to say and discuss something totally irrellevant. There was nothing "so-called" about Plame being outed. Read the indictment, Pookie.

Quote:Gee, it's amazing that your take and Fitzgerald's are so far apart on this, RW. Maybe you should send him a memo.

Au contraire, mon frere. Fitzgerald and I agree 100% on this. The indictment you quote does not allege that Valerie Plame was a covert CIA agent. Indeed, Mr. Wilson says the same in his book, although it has been thoroughly discredited at this point so I wouldn't consider him a reliable source on the matter.

Ninerfan1 Wrote:

Oddball Wrote:Fitzgerald isn't done.

You keep holding on to that junior.

Quote:He stated in his press conference that there was no way to indict at this time due to the degree of lying and covering up done by this administration.

I've seen several people like you say this but that's not he said. He said the process is "frustrated" when people don't tell the truth but the FBI and investigators have to deal with lies all the time.

The fact is if he thought the leaking of the name constituted a crime, he would have indicted on it as well.

Quote:Plame's identity was classified information. Revealing her identity put many other agents at risk.

Proof? Please note your opinion, the opinion of the DNC, moveon.org, democraticunderground, Howard Dean, Saint Joe Wilson etc. don't qualify as proof.

Quote:That is traitorous no matter how you flat-earthers spin it and circle jerk over it.

You are clearly obsessed with circle jerks. Clearly you must have vast experience with it.

What's really hilarious is I'm sure you're considered one of the greatest minds of your party. That's why you lose in national election after national election. :wave: :laugh: :laugh:

You've posted some dumb s#!t before, but this post is a special kind of stupid. Address the issue, or shut up. What a lame whiner you've become.

Quote:What's amazing is how you want to change the subject away from what a Republican prosecutor like Fitzgerald had to say and discuss something totally irrellevant. There was nothing "so-called" about Plame being outed. Read the indictment, Pookie.

My mistake, I thought we were discussing the what is and isn't exposition of covert information.

Wait. What?

Road Warrior Wrote:

Quote:Gee, it's amazing that your take and Fitzgerald's are so far apart on this, RW. Maybe you should send him a memo.

Au contraire, mon frere. Fitzgerald and I agree 100% on this. The indictment you quote does not allege that Valerie Plame was a covert CIA agent. Indeed, Mr. Wilson says the same in his book, although it has been thoroughly discredited at this point so I wouldn't consider him a reliable source on the matter.

Wrong on all counts. Unless, of course, you find your semantic tricks to be amusing, then by all means...continue. :snore:

Road Warrior Wrote:

Quote:What's amazing is how you want to change the subject away from what a Republican prosecutor like Fitzgerald had to say and discuss something totally irrellevant. There was nothing "so-called" about Plame being outed. Read the indictment, Pookie.

My mistake, I thought we were discussing the what is and isn't exposition of covert information.

Wait. What?

That would be a cute trick if you were 12 and raised in some backwoods holler.

Oddball Wrote:You've posted some dumb s#!t before, but this post is a special kind of stupid. Address the issue, or shut up. What a lame whiner you've become.

Oh my gosh this is the most freakin hilarious thing I've ever read!!!! :roflol: :roflol: :roflol: :laugh: :laugh:

YOU of all people talking about addressing the issue.

News flash junior

Quote:I've seen several people like you say this but that's not he said. He said the process is "frustrated" when people don't tell the truth but the FBI and investigators have to deal with lies all the time.

The fact is if he thought the leaking of the name constituted a crime, he would have indicted on it as well.

This is addressing the issue. I addressed the issue over and over in your moronic Animal House thread and you continually avoided it because you couldn't counter my arguments.

You truly are pathetic. YOu don't even recognize someone addressing the issue when they're doing it.
:laugh: :laugh:

Seriously, Oddball, your position appears to be that making classified information public results in danger to those involved in such classified activity and is therefore "treasonous", to wit:

Quote:Plame's identity was classified information. Revealing her identity put many other agents at risk.

Clearly the Washington Post has exceeded your standard by several orders of magnitude, and yet...?

And by all means if I am misstating your position, clear it up for us.

Road Warrior Wrote:Seriously, Oddball, your position appears to be that making classified information public results in danger to those involved in such classified activity and is therefore "treasonous", to wit:

Quote:Plame's identity was classified information. Revealing her identity put many other agents at risk.

Clearly the Washington Post has exceeded your standard by several orders of magnitude, and yet...?

And by all means if I am misstating your position, clear it up for us.

:ownd:

Ninerfan1 Wrote:

Oddball Wrote:You've posted some dumb s#!t before, but this post is a special kind of stupid. Address the issue, or shut up. What a lame whiner you've become.

Oh my gosh this is the most freakin hilarious thing I've ever read!!!! :roflol: :roflol: :roflol: :laugh: :laugh:

YOU of all people talking about addressing the issue.

News flash junior

Quote:I've seen several people like you say this but that's not he said. He said the process is "frustrated" when people don't tell the truth but the FBI and investigators have to deal with lies all the time.

The fact is if he thought the leaking of the name constituted a crime, he would have indicted on it as well.

This is addressing the issue. I addressed the issue over and over in your moronic Animal House thread and you continually avoided it because you couldn't counter my arguments.

You truly are pathetic. YOu don't even recognize someone addressing the issue when they're doing it.
:laugh: :laugh:

You really think that addresses anything? :roflol:

Road Warrior Wrote:Seriously, Oddball, your position appears to be that making classified information public results in danger to those involved in such classified activity and is therefore "treasonous", to wit:

Quote:Plame's identity was classified information. Revealing her identity put many other agents at risk.

Clearly the Washington Post has exceeded your standard by several orders of magnitude, and yet...?

And by all means if I am misstating your position, clear it up for us.

Again, almost cute. :rolleyes:

Totally unrelated tripe.

Oddball Wrote:You really think that addresses anything? :roflol:

Translation: "I know you really did but I have to avoid it at all cost since I have no clue what I'm talking about and facts are things I just can't deal with."

Geez I've seen dolphins put up a better fight against a fishing net. :laugh:

Oddbobbit


You truly are a gluten for the tripe laden diatribe given forth by the BLIND hypersensitive right wing fundamentalist Republican brown nosers...I for one applaud you and although by no means a Dem I stand with the forward thinking logical HORDES who abhor this imploding joke of an administration...

Try offering them one of these...and GOOD LUCK!!

Nasty Wrote:Oddbobbit


You truly are a gluten for the tripe laden diatribe given forth by the BLIND hypersensitive right wing fundamentalist Republican brown nosers...I for one applaud you and although by no means a Dem I stand with the forward thinking logical HORDES who abhor this imploding joke of an administration...

Try offering them one of these...and GOOD LUCK!!

Circle jerk!!!!!!!

Oddball Wrote:...if you were 12 and raised in some backwoods holler.

more self-description? your own, limited, qualifications perhaps?

your act was monotonous the last time you took it on the road, and it still is. try the kos folks; they'll find you entertaining no doubt.

this place exists as a subforum on a sports message board. in sports language, your team is still down about 76-2, and your team's electoral losing streak is added to by the year. very little comfort for lord flaming asshats in the demographic trends either. but then, i'm a member of the flat earth society.

Ninerfan1 Wrote:

Oddball Wrote:You really think that addresses anything?&nbsp; :roflol:

Translation: "I know you really did but I have to avoid it at all cost since I have no clue what I'm talking about and facts are things I just can't deal with."

Geez I've seen dolphins put up a better fight against a fishing net. :laugh:

Is this translator you neo-idiots use located somewhere on the Fox site? It seems very fair and balanced.

Nasty Wrote:Oddbobbit


You truly are a gluten for the tripe laden diatribe given forth by the BLIND hypersensitive right wing fundamentalist Republican brown nosers...I for one applaud you and although by no means a Dem I stand with the forward thinking logical HORDES who abhor this imploding joke of an administration...

Try offering them one of these...and GOOD LUCK!!

Oh my, the big bad neos are ganging up on me. Whatever shall I do!