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Kerik was on WTAM in Cleveland many times as a nonpartisan observer. He painted Kerry very unfavorably and Bush as a strong leader in difficult times. Birds of the feather flock together. What a titanic mess!! The right should be proud in misrepresenting Kerik as this nonpartisan who just cared about his country. I also see blame the troops for Al-Qaqaa Guilliani pushed for his nomination. We all know what upstanding character Guilliani has. This so called party of morals has none. A national disgrace!!!

Odd, I thought <a href='http://www.limanews.com/story.php?IDnum=9964' target='_blank'>these scum</a> were.

Besides, I thought Dems said this stuff didn't matter. Let's just get back to the "biniss of runnin' the government.

Problem I have is WTAM gave him an hour with Trivisonno and he said he was not involved in Bush's campaign. WTAM acted like it was an interview they set up when Rove set it up all along. Shameless.

Win at any cost repoobs. Problem is the average American Joe pays dearly for this train wreck of an administration. The most destructive President since Hoover.

Dogger Wrote:Problem I have is WTAM gave him an hour with Trivisonno and he said he was not involved in Bush's campaign. WTAM acted like it was an interview they set up when Rove set it up all along. Shameless.

Win at any cost repoobs.

C'mon Dogger. You can find just as much dirt on the Dems as you can on the Republicans. It won't take long for this thread to be inundated w/ "rebuttals".

Trivisonno is obviously a slime-ball, w/ no integrity. Do I think it matters? Yes, and I wouldn't vote for him.

At the same time, his name is off the nomination. Doesn't that at least work as an uneasy compromise?

Another big problem I have is W's trust of Putin because of "the look in his eye". Going by the gut can bankrupt an oil company you run or cause the other monumental failures he has had in life, but his policies are so destructive to our country in so many ways. Now we are trusting this guy with Social Security and the direction of the Supreme Court for the next thirty years. He hasn't done one thing where he has earned my trust.

Another problem I have is how can Colin Powell whose history has been proven correct with his assessment of Iraq be on his way out and Rumsfeld still have a job. WTF!!!

Dogger Wrote:Another big problem I have is W's trust of Putin because of "the look in his eye". Going by the gut can bankrupt an oil company you run or cause the other monumental failures he has had in life, but his policies are so destructive to our country in so many ways. Now we are trusting this guy with Social Security and the direction of the Supreme Court for the next thirty years. He hasn't done one thing where he has earned my trust.

Another problem I have is how can Colin Powell whose history has been proven correct with his assessment of Iraq be on his way out and Rumsfeld still have a job. WTF!!!

I can't believe the orderlies still let you get anywhere near a computer. WTF?

Yeah,

You would have to be crazy to be worried about Putin poisoning political leaders in other countries wouldn't you. Oh, the majority of Americans are real happy Powell's leaving and Rummy's staying. Keeps a diversified point of view around. Keep splittin' the atoms brainiac.

Dogger Wrote:Yeah,

You would have to be crazy to be worried about Putin poisoning political leaders in other countries wouldn't you. Oh, the majority of Americans are real happy Powell's leaving and Rummy's staying. Keeps a diversified point of view around. Keep splittin' the atoms brainiac.

Putin poisoning people, huh? Got anything to back that up?

A majority of Americans, huh? Got anything to back that up?

<a href='http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=322922' target='_blank'>http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=322922</a>

<a href='http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=542&u=/ap/20041213/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/mccain_interview_1&printer=1' target='_blank'>http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=...iew_1&printer=1</a>

Wasn't all that hard. You should try watching things other than Fox News and listening to things other than Limbaugh.

Your dismissed.

Dogger Wrote:<a href='http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=322922' target='_blank'>http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=322922</a>

<a href='http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=542&u=/ap/20041213/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/mccain_interview_1&printer=1' target='_blank'>http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=...iew_1&printer=1</a>

Wasn't all that hard. You should try watching things other than Fox News and listening to things other than Limbaugh.

Your dismissed.

Let me get this out of the way first.

1. I don't watch Fox News or any network/cable news. They are all crap.

2. Limbaugh is a talking head. I couldn't give a damn what he says or what he thinks.

As for your "evidence." Did you even read the articles you linked to?

You posted a link to a story where John McCain expresses his personal feelings about Rumsfeld. No mention of Powell and certainly no mention of the "majority" of Americans. Not even McCain has the audacity to claim the majority of any group agrees with him. Hell, he won't even suggest Rumsfeld should resign. Again, do you have ANYTHING to back up your statement:

Quote:Oh, the majority of Americans are real happy Powell's leaving and Rummy's staying.

Then there is this quote by you:

Quote: You would have to be crazy to be worried about Putin poisoning political leaders in other countries wouldn't you.

When I asked if you could back up your claim about Putin, you post a link to an ABCNews.com article. This article has a very interesting quote concerning Putin:

Quote:When asked by ABC News' Bill Weir if the Russian government, and specifically President Vladimir Putin, had anything to do with the poisoning, Yushchenko chief of staff Oleh Rybachuk said: "I am not very positive about government, but what I might say that was Soviet Union … sort of KGB experts are clearly involved in this plot."

Not even the victims are claiming Putin had anything to do with it.

That wasn't too hard. Just apply a little reading comprehension and you can easily see that the articles you link to provide absolutely ZERO evidence to support your claims.

Again, I put it to you. Do you have ANYTHING to back up your statements?

FYI -

The ABCnews.com article:

Gunning-Fog Index score = 14.8
Flesch-Kincaid Index score = 10.3
Flesch Index score = 51

The McCain article:

Gunning-Fog Index score = 10.8
Flesch-Kincaid Index score = 8.5
Flesch Index score = 61

Surely, Dogger, surely you can meet these simple requirements.

ccs,

Controversy follows Rumsfeld with every news conference. From his Old Europe diatribes to his you go to war with what you have instead of what you want. That' O.K. when your forced into a war but in this case we choose the war, the time, and the place. The evidence in the case of Powell being more popular than Rumsfeld shouldn't even be a topic of discussion. Open your eyes or a better choice of words may be your mind.

In Putin's case there is no way this is done without his O.K. or are you as naive as our president in "trusting the man's character by a look in his eye". Do you realize the Kremlin is handing out brochures showing Bush's face and Yushenko's faced morphed together. Another one is being handed out with Bush holding puppet strings. Read!!!! Form your own opinions about things. Don't always think Bush is right because you support the guy. The proof you look for is out there. You just have to open your mind.

Dogger Wrote:ccs,

Controversy follows Rumsfeld with every news conference. From his Old Europe diatribes to his you go to war with what you have instead of what you want. That' O.K. when your forced into a war but in this case we choose the war, the time, and the place. The evidence in the case of Powell being more popular than Rumsfeld shouldn't even be a topic of discussion. Open your eyes or a better choice of words may be your mind.

In Putin's case there is no way this is done without his O.K. or are you as naive as our president in "trusting the man's character by a look in his eye". Do you realize the Kremlin is handing out brochures showing Bush's face and Yushenko's faced morphed together. Another one is being handed out with Bush holding puppet strings. Read!!!! Form your own opinions about things. Don't always think Bush is right because you support the guy. The proof you look for is out there. You just have to open your mind.

You could've just said, "No, I have nothing to prove what I have said." :laugh: :roflol:

Dogger Wrote:<a href='http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=322922' target='_blank'>http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=322922</a>

<a href='http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=542&u=/ap/20041213/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/mccain_interview_1&printer=1' target='_blank'>http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=...iew_1&printer=1</a>

Wasn't all that hard.&nbsp; You should try watching things other than Fox News and listening to things other than Limbaugh.

Your dismissed.

i keep hoping that puberty will make a difference in both your ability to think and your ability to spell.

thus far, mere wishful thinking.

have you figured out yet that your deliberate efforts at antagonizing don't work? for a lot of reasons? when your voice changes, post again.

Sheep,

So the Kremlin isn't handing out morphed Yushenko and Bush photo's. Hmmm

Rummy is more popular than Powell. Pathetic!!!!!!

ccs,

Seen the abc news poll on support for Rumsfeld? How about USA today poll? I posted this last week. I " went by my gut" on the Rumsfeld comment. Could see "in my countrymen's eyes" that support for Rumsfeld was severely being damaged. Looks like I was CORRECT in that assessment. See you don't always have to have peole think for you to be right. You should try independent thinking once. Stay away from the fair and balnced view or Rush is RIGHT crowd.

Because he doesn't agree with you he is not an independant thinker? That's a rather ignorant assumption, don't you think?

Dogger Wrote:ccs,

Seen the abc news poll on support for Rumsfeld? How about USA today poll? I posted this last week. I " went by my gut" on the Rumsfeld comment. Could see "in my countrymen's eyes" that support for Rumsfeld was severely being damaged. Looks like I was CORRECT in that assessment. See you don't always have to have peole think for you to be right. You should try independent thinking once. Stay away from the fair and balnced view or Rush is RIGHT crowd.

This is your typical rant, Dogger. You keep repeating the same thing over and over. When asked to provide any evidence you post articles that either have nothing at all to do with the point you are making or they contradict what you posted.

1. You said a majority of Americans want Rumsfeld gone, but offered NO evidence to back that up. Just an article where McCain complains but never says Rumsfeld should resign. News polls? I didn't see any polls that you posted, but news polls are about as accurate as the exit polls that predicted a Kerry win last November.

2. You said Putin was poisoning people, but offered NO evidence to back that up. Just an article where the group who's leader was poisoned specifically refused to accuse Putin. Maybe ABC News or USA Today can run a poll for you.

3. I said before that I don't watch Fox News or listen to Limbaugh. Network news and cable news is all crap. No matter how much you keep bringing them up, it won't change the fact that I DON'T WATCH OR LISTEN TO THEM.

4. Like I said before, it would be much easier for you to just say, "No, I can't backup what I said."

Dogger Wrote:Problem I have is WTAM gave him an hour with Trivisonno and he said he was not involved in&nbsp; Bush's campaign. WTAM acted like it was an interview they set up when Rove set it up all along.&nbsp; Shameless.

Win at any cost repoobs.&nbsp; Problem is the average American Joe pays dearly for this train wreck of an administration.&nbsp; The most destructive President since Hoover.

I thought that crooked Ohio politician's name was Traficant, not Trivisonno......or doesn't that fit with the talking points?

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