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<small>[ September 05, 2002, 01:59 PM: Message edited by: georgia_tech_swagger ]</small>

I think you're a ways off on your UNC-Syracuse prediction, but we shall see....

-JD

Oh, and I think your label of NC State as "the only college team in the state of NC that knows how to play football" is wrong too.

-JD

Knock on my door when you have more touchdowns than turnovers

Where will you be next Saturday?

-JD

Sure you don't want to reschedule that for a week or two after this weekend?

9 - 3 = 6
6 x 7 = 42

Syracuse Defense + UNC Offense =/= 42 points

<small>[ September 03, 2002, 03:04 PM: Message edited by: georgia_tech_swagger ]</small>

We are playing in a dome this weekend, not in 3+ hours of a torrential downpour....

-JD

Miami played in the same weather.

They didn't turn it over 9 times.

And Miami (OH) is nowhere near the same level as Syracuse.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by georgia_tech_swagger:
Miami played in the same weather.

They didn't turn it over 9 times.

And Miami (OH) is nowhere near the same level as Syracuse.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You're right -- they're better.

That doesn't mean we can't still lose at Syracuse this weekend. Anytime you play on the road (especially in front of a crowd like Syracuse), you have to play well to win).

As for the rain this past week, I've already explained my take on that to Nate in <a href="http://ncaabbs.com/forums/acc/boards/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=17;t=000113" target="_blank">this thread.</a>

-JD

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by JD Heel:
You're right -- they're better.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">[Monty Python & The Holy Grail, King Arthur]
And you're a looney....
[/Monty Python & The Holy Grail, King Arthur]

Once again, we'll see....

-JD

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by georgia_tech_swagger:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by JD Heel:
You're right -- they're better.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">[Monty Python & The Holy Grail, King Arthur]
And you're a looney....
[/Monty Python & The Holy Grail, King Arthur]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" alt="[laugh]" title="" src="graemlins/laughing.gif" />

We're talking about Miami of Ohio right?

Miami of Ohio being better than ECU is a stretch, but saying they're better than Syracuse is crazy.

Let's see, last season the Powerhouse that is Miami of Ohio beat such great teams as:

Cincinnati
Ball State
Buffalo
Akron
Ohio
Western Michigan
Bowling Green

Let's see that's 7 total wins, all against Mid-major teams and a whole 2 of those wins came against teams with winning records!!!!!!!!!

And by the way Clemson played a damp game in Georgia so don't go blaming the rain. I've seen some of the replays and it was just bad execution.

Does anybody read what I write? I did not blame our loss on the rain! But, if you don't think that rain can be a major factor in a game (especially one where a team turns it over 9 times), then I'm quite sure I can't explain it to you.

Thanks for showing me last year's Miami team's record. By the way, what was Maryland's record two year's ago -- and what was it last year?

-JD

You have a point JD

You can NEVER tell what will happen in a first game.

If you put FSU and Buffalo out there, I wouldnt be 100% sure FSU would win...it would be very likely, but in UNC's cse, They WERE the better team, they just made too mistakes that cost them

Yes UNC is the better team but lost. I still in NO WAY agree that Miami of Ohio is a better team than ECU or Syracuse just because they beat UNC. You can speculate, but to say that because a subpar team from last year beats UNC they must be better than ECU and Syracuse is jumping the gun.

Face it, you lost to a BAD team. And i still don't agree that the rain caused ALL of those turnovers. From replays i saw (two turnovers) the rain didn't cause those fumbles. Just admitt that UNC was NOT prepared for that game.

Please point out where I said that the rain caused all of our turnovers.

-JD

Oh, and a BAD team loses more games than it wins. Miami consistently wins more than it loses. Doesn't matter if it's against Big 12 competition or MAC competition. Good teams win and bad teams lose.

Miami happens to be a good team. Not a great team -- and one that we should have beaten on Saturday -- but a good team nonetheless.

-JD

So if you win more games than you lose you must be a GOOD team on any level, at least that's what you said.

So if Clemson wins every game it plays it must be a good team, but what if every team it plays is a high school team. Big Whoop. That doesn't make Clemson a good team. A school needs QUALITY wins to be considered a GOOD team.

The point of posting Miami's record last season was to show that they won but they won against nobodies. Buffalo, Akron, and Ohio are wins that don't mean anything.

There is a huge difference btw the major conferences and the mid-majors. That's why NCState is going to DOMINATE it's first three oppanents and not move up in the polls (very much at least) while if Notre Dame dominated it's first three games (Maryland, Purdue, and Michigan) it would be a top 15 team.

This is also why you'll never see a Mid-Major team reach a National Championship game, they are of LESSER QUALITY.

He definately speaks the truth!