I've heard it, many times. They DO have an agenda. Just admit it, it's only "fairly unbiased" to you because you agree with it. It's biased as HELL to me and I HAVE heard erroneous reporting as well as political interjections by the hosts given. NPR is NOT unbiased and the ONLY thing that pisses me off about them is that they are paid by MY tax dollars. I don't care if you Libs set up 3000 radio shows. I won't listen to them anyway. NPR wouldn't be around if they weren't subsidized. Case in point, Air America. I know the stations I listen to are biased, but they are biased in their thinking in the same direction as I. News reporters and anchors aren't inanimate objects; they often inject their biases into their reporting, etc. The program is not biased, but it is the people that make these shows up that make them biased.

RebelKev Wrote:News reporters and anchors aren't inanimate objects; they often inject their biases into their reporting, etc. The program is not biased, but it is the people that make these shows up that make them biased.

Kinda of like when Dan Rather attended a Democratic fundraising event.

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Oddball Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:

broncobill Wrote:I prefer the honest and unbias info found on NPR.

:lolup: :lolup: :lolup: :lolup: :lolup:

Dear Lord man, you ought to be doing stand-up.

You know, you really ought to get the Hannity out of your ears. Your perception would improve incredibly. :rolleyes:

I wouldn't know. I don't listen to him. I have in the past and I have never said he WASN'T biased. On his TV program, the program itself isn't biased because he has his counterpart. I will say this though, he lets ALL people come onto his radio show. My contention was that NPR is FAR from unbiased. If you say that, that's essentially like me saying Rush isn't biased and you deduct that JUST because YOU agree with it. Very, very shallow thinking.

NPR gives equall time and respect to conservitive guest as well as liberal ones - name me one right wing radio talk show that does that.

On friday, at 10:00 EST The Diane Ream Show does the weekly news round up ( 1 hour show). She has a three guest panel of columnist- one conservitive, one liberal, and one moderate.
Listeners call in and question these guest, and every once in a while some idiot calls and accuses the show of selling liberal propaganda and usally states something that Rush said as proof that NPR is lying. At this point, the conservitive panelist reluctantly has to correct the "facts" for the caller and remind him that he is arguing against the libs.

Contrary to popular opinion and most university studies, conservitives are not stupid. Where this view comes from, unfortunatly, is the boisterous few that lack the ability to think. And lastly for those few, I would like to tell you that I am not only a conservitive but I'm Rush's kid brother - and I say "Don't let those libs. force you to hear one more lie. Get up and walk - no - run to the kitchen, grab the biggest and sharpest knife, and cut off your ears." :D

They refuse to give Rush time, he's too big. Sean Hannity has had Ted Kennedy on. See the difference? The liberal stations want the "little" conservatives, not the ones that can make their case.

Say what you want. It won't matter. To me, they are biased. Get this straight Lib, what YOU view as biased I don't and vice-versa. Don't be that damn arrogant to think that what you say is law. EVERYONE is biased.

Have NPR all you want. Like I said, it doesn't matter to me if you guys create 20,000 liberal radio shows....just don't make me pay effing for them. I don't make you pay for MY political shows. If the liberal networks can make it happen in this Capitalist country, fine. I'm all for it, however, it DOES smack at "State-Run" media.

BTW, when it comes to liberals thinking Conservatives are stupid, I invite them ALL to call the Neal Boortz show.....he puts them at the front of the line. He's a Libertarian, like me, but when it comes to fiscal issues, he is strictly conservative. When it comes to social issues, hell, I'm usually with the liberals. I am, however, a staunch Capitalist. I believe in a flat tax. People say, "That's an unfair share of the burden on the poor". How? Well, why punish the people that make money? In essence, the poor are there due to their OWN damn decisions. Our position in life is a summation of our own mistakes and failures.....and decisions in life. Too many times you see the rich turning poor and the poor turning rich. THEY did it and that negates ALL of this BS about it not being able to be accomplished. All it takes is one to negate the rest. It happened and it can happen again. Now, if it doesn't happen, it's your own damn fault.

BTW, I'm NOT a compassionate conservative.

RebelKev Wrote:They refuse to give Rush time, he's too big. Sean Hannity has had Ted Kennedy on. See the difference? The liberal stations want the "little" conservatives, not the ones that can make their case.

Say what you want. It won't matter. To me, they are biased. Get this straight Lib, what YOU view as biased I don't and vice-versa. Don't be that damn arrogant to think that what you say is law. EVERYONE is biased.

Have NPR all you want. Like I said, it doesn't matter to me if you guys create 20,000 liberal radio shows....just don't make me pay effing for them. I don't make you pay for MY political shows. If the liberal networks can make it happen in this Capitalist country, fine. I'm all for it, however, it DOES smack at "State-Run" media.

Please shut up and go to NPR.org and do some research before you speek :rolleyes:
Pat Buchannon, nearly of Bush's cabinet as well as staff, and even ole Goege W himself during campaign 2000.
They sensor no one, and give equal time and respect to all That are willing to address the nation honestly.
BTW Rush has been asked many times but has refused. (He can't handle it if he is not able to hang up on anyone with opposing views)

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RebelKev Wrote:They refuse to give Rush time, he's too big. Sean Hannity has had Ted Kennedy on. See the difference? The liberal stations want the "little" conservatives, not the ones that can make their case.

Say what you want. It won't matter. To me, they are biased. Get this straight Lib, what YOU view as biased I don't and vice-versa. Don't be that damn arrogant to think that what you say is law. EVERYONE is biased.

Have NPR all you want. Like I said, it doesn't matter to me if you guys create 20,000 liberal radio shows....just don't make me pay effing for them. I don't make you pay for MY political shows. If the liberal networks can make it happen in this Capitalist country, fine. I'm all for it, however, it DOES smack at "State-Run" media.

Please shut up and go to NPR.org and do some research before you speek :rolleyes:
Pat Buchannon, nearly of Bush's cabinet as well as staff, and even ole Goege W himself during campaign 2000.
They sensor no one, and give equal time and respect to all That are willing to address the nation honestly.
BTW Rush has been asked many times but has refused. (He can't handle it if he is not able to hang up on anyone with opposing views)

While you are insulting me, why don't you pull out an English book and learn to spell.


Rush has TRIED to get on. They refused.

I am a moderate. If I found an ACLU card I would keep it only for the occasion that I ran out of T.P. I look at politics with logic, gather as many facts as possible, and then form the best most educated oppinion I can muster. I do not claim to know all or that I am always right. I have been known to change my views when good arguements are given. I lean Dem., but have voted for and supported some Rep. I am disgusted by the feeble that will follow party line even when they know it is wrong or bad for the country. And lastly, I believe in capitalism, thou regulated - but I don't believe in the saying "The business of America is Business."( Calvin Coolage 1920s) - Business so often fail ( ie ENRON) and that is not an option for a nation.

RebelKev Wrote:

broncobill Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:They refuse to give Rush time, he's too big. Sean Hannity has had Ted Kennedy on. See the difference? The liberal stations want the "little" conservatives, not the ones that can make their case.

Say what you want. It won't matter. To me, they are biased. Get this straight Lib, what YOU view as biased I don't and vice-versa. Don't be that damn arrogant to think that what you say is law. EVERYONE is biased.

Have NPR all you want. Like I said, it doesn't matter to me if you guys create 20,000 liberal radio shows....just don't make me pay effing for them. I don't make you pay for MY political shows. If the liberal networks can make it happen in this Capitalist country, fine. I'm all for it, however, it DOES smack at "State-Run" media.

Please shut up and go to NPR.org and do some research before you speek :rolleyes:
Pat Buchannon, nearly of Bush's cabinet as well as staff, and even ole Goege W himself during campaign 2000.
They sensor no one, and give equal time and respect to all That are willing to address the nation honestly.
BTW Rush has been asked many times but has refused. (He can't handle it if he is not able to hang up on anyone with opposing views)

While you are insulting me, why don't you pull out an English book and learn to spell.


Rush has TRIED to get on. They refused.

What did I misspell?

I believe in Business and feel that the people of Enron, WorldCom, ImClone, Global Crossings, etc., should be hung up by their testicles, or whatever Stewart has, and shot. Their wealth should be confiscated and divided, in proportion to the interest in the company's stock, to the employees and stockholders screwed. I don't care WHICH party they support.

I am VERY non-partisan when it comes to that.

OK Forgive me. I just reread my post.

Correction....."before you speak"

I hope that doesn't affect my grade. :rolleyes:

Rush is too big??? LMFAO! The guy will NEVER discuss anything with anyone of substance because his entire career is built on nothing but lies. Easily exposed lies, at that. Take away his cut off button and call screeners and the guys is, well, nothing but a big fat idiot. :laugh:

NPR reports the news, accurately and in-depth. As stated above, they also welcome views from all sides, to the point that sometimes I get furious because some right-winger is pontificating BS without correction or interruption. There are some programs on NPR that have a definite POV, but they aren't the news shows. Air America is what it is...a liberal talk network. It even has someone almost as obnoxious as the right winger nutjob hosts, but I'll bet her facts are better checked. ~

RebelKev Wrote:In essence, the poor are there due to their OWN damn decisions.

Including retarded people?

RebelKev Wrote:They refuse to give Rush time, he's too big. Sean Hannity has had Ted Kennedy on. See the difference? The liberal stations want the "little" conservatives, not the ones that can make their case.

No.

Diane Rehm typically has Bill Kristol on her Friday show (I'm not sure what's been happening lately; I don't think the show airs on either of our public radio stations).

Are you calling Kristol "little"?

In contrast to Kristol, Rush is a big fat idiot. There is no reason for any public radio show to invite him on. Why? What discussion would he bring experitise to? He's all entertainer, all spin, no substance.

This is what I would like to see: Rush on Franken's show. Franken would crush him like a little bug.

I don't even believe Rush would want to be on an honest-to-goodness factual discussion of anything. He doesn't even take guests so much -- and rarely are they liberal. He doesn't do well when confronted with an opposing viewpoint. His M.O. seems more along the lines of painting his opponents as extremist and making fun of them so as to make his own views seem sensible.

Bottom line: He may be saying he wants to be on NPR. I have no idea. But I don't believe it. And I don't believe we'll ever see him on Franken's show or vice versa.

Rush knows what the line would be -- and it wouldn't be in his favor.

Speaking of Hannity, who is his cohost on the TV show? If this guy balances the show so much, what is is his name?

Thought so. Fact is the guy is a punching bag. The Show is "Hannity and Combs," but it ought to be (as Al Franken put it):

<span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>Hannity</span> and <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>Combs.</span>

Oddball Wrote:Rush is too big??? LMFAO! The guy will NEVER discuss anything with anyone of substance because his entire career is built on nothing but lies. Easily exposed lies, at that. Take away his cut off button and call screeners and the guys is, well, nothing but a big fat idiot. :laugh:

NPR reports the news, accurately and in-depth. As stated above, they also welcome views from all sides, to the point that sometimes I get furious because some right-winger is pontificating BS without correction or interruption. There are some programs on NPR that have a definite POV, but they aren't the news shows. Air America is what it is...a liberal talk network. It even has someone almost as obnoxious as the right winger nutjob hosts, but I'll bet her facts are better checked. ~

I listen to NPR every day, morning and night, and for you to say they are unbiased in their reporting is rather amusing. NPR is a refuge for old-style lefties. They don't try very hard to hide their biases.

Which just takes me back to my grandpappy's old, simple adage.

Son, it all depends on your perspective.

Anyways, this whole AirAmerica story is turning out to be very interesting (now that I've had some time to read more about it).

I'll give you a lengthy post here but only b/c these articles are on one of those subscription/register sites. Sorry if they bore the ADHD among us.

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Statement Regarding WNTD in Chicago and KBLA in Los Angeles
Statement of Evan Cohen, Chairman of Air America Radio:

"Air America Radio is temporarily unable to be heard on WNTD in Chicago and KBLA in Los Angeles, but Chicago and Los Angeles listeners can still hear our broadcast on the web at airamericaradio.com and on XM Satellite Radio (channel 167).

"MultiCultural Radio Broadcasting's conduct in this matter has been disgraceful. To shut off a broadcast that listeners rely on without warning and in the middle of discussions is the height of irresponsibility and a slap in the face of the media industry. In addition, it is a clear violation of their contractual obligations, and we are seeking legal remedies against them in court."
Talk radio for liberals silenced in Chicago, L.A.


By John Cook, Tribune staff reporter. Tribune staff reporter Jim Kirk contributed to this report
Published April 15, 2004

After just two weeks of broadcasting, Air America Radio, the fledgling liberal talk-radio network featuring Al Franken and Janeane Garofalo, was pulled off the air Wednesday morning in Chicago and Los Angeles in a payment dispute that shows no sign of quick resolution.

Arthur Liu, owner of Multicultural Radio Broadcasting Inc., which owns Air America affiliates WNTD-950 AM in Chicago and KBLA-1580 AM in Los Angeles, said Air America bounced a check and owes him more than $1 million. Air America and Multicultural had entered into an agreement in which the network essentially was renting Multicultural's airtime, Liu said.

"They bounced a check today," Liu said. "It's a default. They have paid only a very small portion of what they owe us."

Liu declined to say how much Multicultural is owed but did say he is holding $1 million in checks that Air America has asked the company not to cash.

Air America Chairman Evan Cohen called the allegations an "outright lie."

"Multicultural Radio Broadcasting's conduct in this matter has been disgraceful," Cohen said. "[It] is a clear violation of their contractual obligations."

The dispute leaves Air America, a start-up network in a business that favors right-wing personalities and is dominated by giant conglomerates, in a tenuous position. It airs in 13 markets nationwide, and Chicago's and Los Angeles' nearly 18 million combined listeners constitute 37 percent of Air America's potential audience.

Los Angeles and Chicago, the second- and third-largest markets in the country, typically are regarded as essential when trying to sell national radio advertising. If the dispute becomes mired in court actions, it is unclear when Air America might reappear in the two markets.

Air America filed a complaint Wednesday in New York State Supreme Court charging Multicultural with breaching its contract and seeking an injunction to put Air America back on the Chicago station. An Air America source said a separate lawsuit over the Los Angeles station is coming.

The network also used its radio stations in New York, Minneapolis, Portland, Ore., and elsewhere as platforms to attack Liu. Executive vice president and general counsel David Goodfriend appeared on Air America's "The Randi Rhodes Show" to accuse Liu of essentially stealing from Air America by reselling airtime on KBLA to third parties that the network already had purchased.

Goodfriend said the dispute centers on the Los Angeles station during the period after Air America started leasing airtime in early February but before it launched in late March. During that time, he said, KBLA was broadcasting Spanish-language programming provided by Multicultural.

Goodfriend said he learned last week that Liu and Multicultural had been "double-dipping," selling that same airtime to others. As a result, he said, the network declined to make payments for KBLA unless Multicultural credited Air America for the extra money Multicultural made. Air America did not bounce any checks, he said.

"They sent us an e-mail asking us to immediately restore it and go back to the negotiating table," Liu said. "But there's nothing to negotiate. They owe us the money."

Liu did not return follow-up calls seeking a response to Air America's allegations.

Media observers say the dispute comes at a crucial time for the start-up network.

"This certainly does not help a fledgling station or network," said Paula Hambrick, who owns media-buying firm Hambrick & Associates in Orland Park. "The president had a press conference last night, so you assume that a lot of people would have wanted to hear what Al Franken had to say. This is when they are really trying to garner an audience."

Chicago-area listeners who tuned into WNTD-950 Wednesday heard Spanish-language talk radio instead of "Morning Sedition" and "Unfiltered," the network's morning talk-shows.

According to Air America's suit, a Multicultural representative showed up at WNTD's offices early Wednesday, kicked out Air America's lone staffer overseeing the network's feed to the station from New York and changed the locks on the doors.

Air America restored in Chicago

Tribune staff reporter
Published April 16, 2004

In a rapid reversal of fortunes, Air America Radio won a temporary restraining order Thursday requiring the owner of its Chicago affiliate to restore the fledgling, liberal talk-radio network's broadcast, one day after it was thrown off the air in Chicago and Los Angeles.

"We've just won Round 1," said Evan Cohen, Air America's chairman. "Arthur Liu received a clear message: Temper tantrums are not the way to conduct business."

Cohen said the network expects to resume broadcasting Friday on WNTD-950 AM in Chicago.

Liu, whose Multicultural Radio Broadcasting Inc. owns Air America's Chicago and Los Angeles stations, pulled the network off the air in both markets Wednesday and changed the locks on the doors. He told the Chicago Tribune that Air America had bounced a payment check and owed Multicultural more than $1 million.

But New York state Supreme Court Judge Marylin G. Diamond found Thursday that Air America had fully paid for airtime in Chicago and ordered Multicultural to begin broadcasting Air America's programming again.

Air America remains off the air in Los Angeles, where it had been broadcast on Multicultural's KBLA 1580 AM.

A person answering the phone Thursday at Multicultural said the company had no comment.

The dispute between the two companies began Wednesday morning, when Multicultural employees kicked Air America staffers out of the Chicago and Los Angeles stations and began airing Spanish-language programming. Liu claimed Air America had defaulted on payments for airtime.

But Air America executives said they were withholding payments for the Los Angeles station because Liu had been "double-dipping," or reselling airtime that the network had bought and paid for, prior to the network's launch a little more than two weeks ago.

Cohen said Thursday that Air America is considering its legal options regarding the Los Angeles station and would be "doing something within the next 48 hours."

Diamond scheduled a hearing on Monday to get a response from Multicultural.

No matter how the dispute is resolved, it seems unlikely that Air America will continue to broadcast on Multicultural's stations. The public relations battle became personal very quickly on Wednesday, with Liu accusing the network of insolvency, and Cohen calling Liu "disgraceful and unprofessional."

"Is this a relationship we want to continue?" Cohen asked. "Over the next couple of days we're both going to be doing a lot of thinking."

Cohen said he is "exploring other broadcast options with a partner who is more responsible and mature."

Now what was REALLY funny this morning was the fact that Boortz was completely spinning this whole debacle into a "poor whiny libs who can't make it in the big bad world of the free market" tirade. He was totally off-base.

But then, consider the source.

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<a href='http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html' target='_blank'>http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html</a>

JUDGE ORDERS LIBERAL TALK BACK ON IN CHICAGO

You're hearing The Neal Boortz Show today on this radio station because your radio station wants to carry the show, not because some judge ordered them to do so. How sad it would be to depend on the courts to have your talk show carried on crucial stations.

Well .. that's the way things seem to be with the much-vaunted liberal talk radio network, Air America. Last night Air America got an injunction forcing the owner of WNTD in Chicago to put them on the air. This gives new meaning to the term "affiliate relations," doesn't it? Well, it gets worse.

They are still booted off the air in Los Angeles....but get this. The guy that owns the Chicago station also owns the L.A. station! Arthur Liu, owner of Multicultural Radio Broadcasting, Inc. took the shows off the air Wednesday and changed the locks at the stations after Air America bounced a check to him. He claims they own him $1 Million dollars! As I've said before, Air America actually has to pay stations to get their programs aired. And somehow they can't even get that right!

So what was Al Franken and Company's response to all of this? Did they quietly mediate the dispute in a professional manner? Of course not....their solution was to go whining to the court...and they started making fun of the guy. Liu called Air America insolvent...they responded with personal attacks (sound familiar?) Now .. get this: Air America actually had posted a press release on their website suggesting the network was going to resolve the matter, vigilante-style, by putting a crowbar to Liu's head. Does it sound like the St. Petersburg, Florida Democratic Club is writing press releases for Air America? That's the crowd, you will remember, they ran an ad in a local newspaper saying that Don Rumsfeld should be put up against the wall and someone should "pull the trigger." Crowbars to the head, pull the trigger .. nice talk. But to listen to them it's the evil conservatives who say all the truly ugly things.

DOESN'T THIS ALL SOUND JUST A BIT FAMILIAR?

Hold on just a minute. Back to Air America. Doesn't this sound a bit familiar somehow? Walk through the sequence. Here we have a left wing effort that apparently fails in the private market place. Do you fall back, regroup, tweak your product, improve your business practices and give it another shot? Why no! You're a liberal You do what liberals have been doing for decades when their initiatives fail in the marketplace. You go to court! Of course! You go to court to see if you can get a judge to do for you what you weren't able to do for yourself in the free marketplace. Liberals have a long and very rich history of resorting to implementing their agenda through court action. It looks like they're sticking to the same playbook here.