</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Doc NoleCat:
Allow me to jump in. Big Pimpin Deac wrote:
"Yes, real schools actually do care about academics. In fact, every school in this league does with the exception of your's."
As an FSU graduate, I know enough about academics to know that there is no apostrophe in the word "YOURS." Now, I might have dismissed this as a typo, except BPD also wrote:
"Our baseball program is as good as your's, and our non-revenue sports teams do better than your's, also."
At least you are consistent in your error. Speaking of which, in our time in the league FSU has won 3 ACC baseball tournament championships and 5 regular season championships -- a total of 8 titles. In the same time span, WF has won three tourneys and zero regular seasons, for a total of 3 titles. In short, we're better. As far as non-revenue teams, well, maybe, I've not done the research. While we're at it, though, we might as well compare glee clubs, yearbooks, and every other extra-curricular activity.
Of course your hoops program does have a better record than FSU, since we've come into the league, or at least since Charlie Ward and Bob Sura graduated. (Leonard Hamilton might make a difference there, but that's in the unknowable future.) Further, you do win ACC titles -- that is, when Duke, UNC, and NC State have simultaneous down years and Georgia Tech (and now Maryland) aren't up.
And as far as academics goes, I fully concede that one publication (US NEWS & WORLD REPORT) ranked Wake above FSU. The same ranking placed Duke AND Virginia above you; further, you barely edged out UNC -- by a single point. And your tuition is how many times UNC's? Anyway, congratulations: you are #3 in the ACC.
The last two points strike at the source of the hostility you've displayed in your posts: Wake doesn't EXCEL in ANYTHING. Nothing must irritate more than on-going middle-of-the-pack status. The only thing that made (note tense) your school stand out was its affiliation with the North Carolina Baptist Convention. And if your comments are indicative of the quality of WF lately, I can understand why the Convention ended their ties.
Two final points. BPD also sneered, "You belong in the SEC with the other renegade, dirty wh*rehouses that call themselves universities." Point one: this is typical of your "on-line machismo." Walk into a student hangout in Tally, Tuscaloosa, Knoxville, Starkville, Gainesville, Fayetteville, Athens, Oxford, Columbia, Baton Rouge, Lexington, Nashville, or Auburn and call the local school a "renegade, dirty wh*rehouse" and maybe someone will be impressed. Point two: no one affiliated with a TOBACCO Road school should call any other school out -- how many cancer victims paved the way for your diploma (assuming you earned one)?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Professor,
Thanks for the help with "yours". I'll be sure to remember that when addressing an English major Criminole like yourself. I seriously doubt Paul even knows what the word means, though.
To quote the legendary Dean Smith, "the real champion is the one who wins the tournament." Don't give me any sh*t about regular season championships. The only thing those are good for is #1 seeds in the tournament. I stand by my statement that the Wake Forest baseball program is as good as the Florida State baseball program. Until F$U wins a College World Series or beats Wake every time they play, my opinion will not change.
You obviously don't follow college basketball very closely. I really don't blame you for that. You claim that Wake wins titles in the years that UNC, Duke, State, Georgia Tech, and Maryland are down. In 1995, UNC had one of their great teams with Jerry Stackhouse and Rasheed Wallace, among others. Wake beat them in the title game. You are right about Duke. They were down in '95 and '96. State has been down ever since their program was destroyed by scandals circa 1989. It makes no sense to even add them to the equation. Even your beloved Seminoles had a better program than N.C. State until the last few years. In 1996, Wake Forest beat Georgia Tech in the title game. Tech was far from having a down year. Maryland was good both years. That would be like me saying that F$U only wins national championships in football in years that Florida, Miami, Tennessee, Nebraska, and Oklahoma are down.
Please tell me where I ever said a word about the academics or tuition of UNC. The only academics I bashed in this thread were those of Florida State, which I never would have said a word about if it weren't for your buddy Paul. I do not give two sh*ts what it costs to go to UNC because I had no interest in going there. Also, for all you know, I might not be from North Carolina. Or, I might have had a full scholarship to Wake. My point is, you have no idea what I paid to go to Wake Forest. It really sucks for you that you have to use UNC to defend your argument. I could do the same with the University of Florida. I could say that UF and F$U are similar in price, but UF is the better school. So, why would anyone go to F$U?
Then, you contradict yourself. You say that Wake Forest doesn't excel in anything. Yet, earlier you said that we win titles in basketball and baseball. I guess those sports don't count. Also, Wake is pretty decent in a sport called golf. The Baptist Convention statement was priceless. I've never heard that one used before, but I will certainly remember it. That's as ignorant as me saying that the only thing that makes F$U stand out is having Burt Reynolds as an alum.
Tell you what. I will be glad to walk in and spout off in any of those student hangouts if you will do the same at a student hangout in Winston-Salem. Although, Gainsville and Athens are the only two places I would want to visit. I'll be sure to check on the number of cancer victims that paved the way for my diploma. I'll get back to you on that one. By the way, tobacco is a legal product and is here to stay. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="tongue.gif" />
It's been fun chatting with you, Doctor. Please feel free to stimulate my intellect again in the near future. I just love conversing with someone who has all their facts straight. <img border="0" alt="[laugh]" title="" src="graemlins/laughing.gif" />
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