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Who knows where the idea of Friday the 13th came from? Nate, you should know. Or anyone who reads current best sellers.
02-12-2004 09:14 AM
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I think it comes from Thursday the 12th so that we can have Saturday the 14th.
02-12-2004 09:35 AM
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rickheel Wrote:Who knows where the idea of Friday the 13th came from? Nate, you should know. Or anyone who reads current best sellers.
The Persecution of the Knights Templar by the French Monarchy and the Catholic Church.

13 October, 1307 - All Knights Templar in France are simultaneously arrested by agents of Phillip the Fair, to be later tortured into "admitting" heresy.
02-12-2004 10:03 AM
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Well done.

Who Were The Knights Templar?

The Knights Templar were a monastic military order formed at the end of the First Crusade with the mandate of protecting Christian pilgrims on route to the Holy Land. Never before had a group of secular knights banded together and taken the monastic vows. In this sense they were the first of the Warrior Monks. The Templars fought along side King Richard I (Richard The Lion Hearted) and other Crusaders in the battles for the Holy Lands.

From humble beginnings of poverty when the order relied on alms from the traveling pilgrims, the Order would go on to have the backing of the Holy See and the collective European monarchies.

Within two centuries they had become powerful enough to defy all but the Papal throne. Feared as warriors, respected for their charity and sought out for their wealth, there is no doubt that the Templar knights were the key players of the monastic fighting Orders. Due to their vast wealth and surplus of materials the Templars essentially invented banking, as we know it. The church forbade the lending of money for interest, which they called usury. The Templars, being the clever sort they were, changed the manner in which loans were paid and were able to skirt the issue and finance even kings.

They were destroyed, perhaps because of this wealth or fear of their seemingly limitless powers. In either case, the Order met with a rather untimely demise at the hands of the Pope and the King of France in 1307 and by 1314, "The Poor Fellow Soldiers of Christ and the Temple of Solomon" ceased to exist, at least officially.

Although originally a small group of nine knights, they quickly gained fame largely due to the backing of Bernard of Clairvaux and his "In Praise of the New Knighthood". Bernard at that time was often called the Second Pope and was the chief spokesman of Christendom. He is also the one responsible for helping to draw up the Order's rules of conduct.

In European political circles, they became very powerful and influential. This was because they were immune from any authority save that of the Papal Throne. (Pope Innocent II exempted the Templars from all authority except the Pope.) After the crusades were over, the knights returned to their Chapters throughout Europe and became known as moneylenders to the monarchs. In the process many historians believe they invented the Banking System.

The secret meetings and rituals of the knights would eventually cause their downfall. The King of France, Philip the Fair used these rituals and meetings to his advantage to destroy the knights. The real reason for his crushing the Templars was that he felt threatened by their power and immunity. In 1307, Philip, who desperately needed funds, to support his war against England's Edward I made his move against the Knights Templar.

On October 13th, 1307, King Philip had all the Templars arrested on the grounds of heresy, since this was the only charge that would allow the seizing of their money and assets. The Templars were tortured and as a result, ridiculous confessions were given. These confessions included:

Trampling and spitting on the cross
Homosexuality and Sodomy
Worshipping of the Baphomet
Philip was successful in ridding the Templars of their power and wealth and urged all fellow Christian leaders to do the same thing. On March 19th, 1314 the last Grand Master of the Knights Templar, Jacques de Molay was burned at the stake. De Molay is said to have cursed King Philip and Pope Clement, as he burned, asking both men to join him within a year. Whether he actually uttered the curse or if it is simply an apocryphal tale; what remains as fact is that Clement died only one month later and Philip IV seven months after that.
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Did you read Da Vinci Code? Interesting book. Opened my eyes to some new thoughts. Can that happen?

I enjoyed[Image: 0671027360.01.MZZZZZZZ.jpg] too.
02-12-2004 11:22 AM
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rickheel Wrote:Did you read Da Vinci Code? Interesting book. Opened my eyes to some new thoughts. Can that happen?

I enjoyed[Image: 0671027360.01.MZZZZZZZ.jpg] too.

I've never read the Da Vinci Code. I have no big urge to either. I knew about the Knights Templar from my experience in Freemasonry.

I read "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" way back when. Interesting theory but not much more than that. Check out this link to a blog post from 2003. I read this site all the time. It's a great blog.

<a href='http://paleojudaica.blogspot.com/2003_08_03_paleojudaica_archive.html#106041322346282278' target='_blank'>http://paleojudaica.blogspot.com/2003_08_0...041322346282278</a>
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The story I've heard is that it comes from Jesus being crucified on a Friday, and Jesus + 12 apostles at the Last Supper = 13. Probably just an urban legend, though....
02-13-2004 11:15 AM
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I just began The DaVinci Code this week and am halfway through it. Appropriately I read the explanation of the Knights Templar last night and its relation to Friday the 13th...good timing, I'd say. :)

We'll have to have a discussion of the book when I'm done, rick!
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Well, I guess now's the time for everyone to read that book... because my mom just gave it to me yesterday. I haven't picked it up yet, but I plan to start this weekend (if I have time).

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Angels and Demons was better IMHO.
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[quote="JD Heel"]Well, I guess now's the time for everyone to read that book... because my mom just gave it to me yesterday.
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