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I say if it was private, fine.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">If they wanted an all-black club - fine
" " " " " -hispanic club - fine
" " " " " -asian club - fine
" " " " " -white club - fine
" " " " " -native american club - fine
" " " " " -middle east club - fine
" " " " " -woman club - fine
" " " " " -man club - fine
" " " " " -transvestite club - fine</pre><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I don't give a good *** **** what they include and exclude! There are similar caveats out there everywhere.

And if you think white males have it all, I URGE YOU TO TRY AND GET A SCHOLARSHIP THESE DAYS AS A WHITE MALE. YOU ARE DEAD IN THE WATER FROM THE WORD "GO!" IF YOU'RE A WHITE MALE.

Correct me if I'm wrong - but isn't this the same type of "discrimination" we're raising hell over here?

Fine - let women into Augusta. At the same time, give me my f'n scholarship money.

I forget the exact stat, but it's like some 5 to 10% of scholarships out there do not weight on if you're a white male or not.

That's pathetic, and a slap in the face of this.

<small>[ September 03, 2002, 09:34 PM: Message edited by: georgia_tech_swagger ]</small>
09-03-2002 08:33 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Liquid Karma:

Jeebus facking Christ.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" alt="[NoNo]" title="" src="graemlins/nono.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="redface.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[NoNo]" title="" src="graemlins/nono.gif" />
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GTS...discrimination of ALL types is wrong. However...we're not discussing scholarship money...we're discussing golf, and that point is important to keep in focus...

And believe me...you DON'T want to get into the "poor white middle-class male" discussion with me...my brothers and I have lived it (at least the white middle-class part on my end)...why in the hell do you think that I'm only now--at the age of 32--finally finishing off my Bachelor's Degree? It's called "my parents were too poor to be able to save for college, yet too rich to qualify for financial aid". So save that argument for somebody that needs to hear it.

<small>[ September 03, 2002, 10:35 PM: Message edited by: LilRedTerp ]</small>
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by LilRedTerp:
The MAIN thing that pisses me off about their "no women" policy is how far they're willing to go to defend it. According to the article in the Washington Post that I read this morning (and no...I didn't click on the link above, so I don't know if it's basically the same thing), Augusta National is paying for everything on its own--when CBS(?) usually pays them between 5 and 10 million dollars for rights to the broadcast. That's a heck of a lot of money to throw away (not even considering how much they'll have to fork out to run the event) just so they don't have to admit women into the club. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">the Masters only recently had sponsers (late 80's). Augusta National is loaded, made tons of money without Coke, Citibank, and the third sponser (Bud I think). Hootie let them go so they wont have to worry about negative publicty.

-source is the Orlando newspaper
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I know that LL... The way that the Post read this morning was that they let the sponsors go so that they couldn't be swayed by boycotts or other forms of protest...and thus make A.N. bend to the sponsor's pressure. *sigh* This whole thing just stinks. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />

<small>[ September 04, 2002, 12:32 AM: Message edited by: LilRedTerp ]</small>
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Actually, people in the golf world, who are on the inside of this issue say that Burke really screwed up here. Not because she can't win the case, or doesn't have rights to protest....but because Hootie Johnson is the most liberal president they've ever had at Augusta. The feeling is that he was already on the way to getting women admitted into the club. Now, Burke has ruined that and it will DEFINITELY NOT HAPPEN now. They will not do it under pressure from someone else. They will do it at their own time and she just made the wait a lot longer.

My personal belief is that this whole issue smacks of hypocrasy. I recently was a member of an all male a capella group and we never once received pressure to allow women in our group. Why? Because there was nothing to be gained by joining. We were small potatos. Burke and her organization are only interested in Augusta because they have something to gain. They would care less about Augusta if they hadn't turned their tournament into the best in the world. There are plenty of other all male clubs. Why aren't they going after those?
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by PoohTerp:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Liquid Karma:

Jeebus facking Christ.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" alt="[NoNo]" title="" src="graemlins/nono.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="redface.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[NoNo]" title="" src="graemlins/nono.gif" /> </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="rolleyes.gif" />

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True LT...I've never been a big fan of NOW...and I readily admit that Burke is going about this the wrong way. Like I (think) I said above...it's Hootie's whole attitude about this that really irks me. I would have been a little upset if I heard that A.N. was exclusionary (did I spell that correctly? lol) before NOW jumped in...but what REALLY set me off was what I perceived to be his "arrogant attitude". Like I've said before...this whole situation just sucks. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />
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I am still waiting for someone to explain to me how the cause of women is harmed by Augusta national not having any female members. While you are at it, explain how Augusta adding a member furthers the cause of women. I am so sick of special interest groups using extortion to get their way.
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The point is, LK, that it shouldn't be an issue to begin with. What was A.N's point in excluding women? Why did they feel that they needed to? Why shouldn't women be allowed to join? What would it hurt? Back in 1990 (I believe...if I remember the date that the Post mentioned yesterday) Shoal Creek in Alabama had a "no blacks" policy that had to be changed before the PGA Championship could be played there...why shouldn't exclusionary policies anywhere be met with the same critical eye? NOW is going after the Masters because of its visibility...and in that sense it's not hypocritical, because you have to pick your battles. Granted...she's going about this all wrong...but the theory behind what she's doing (in my opinion) is still sound.
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