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<a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/golfonline/news/2002/08/31/masters_burk_ap/" target="_blank">NEW YORK (AP) -- Now that the Masters has eliminated its television sponsors, the leader of a national women's group said Saturday she will urge CBS Sports to drop coverage of golf's most-watched tournament until Augusta National has a female member.

Martha Burk, chairwoman of the National Council of Women's Organizations, said she will not give up the fight until the Masters fades away as a major championship or until the club admits a woman.
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Jeebus facking Christ. Somebody get this ***** a reality check.

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That ***** needs an LK bow to her chin!

Who the [] cares? Let him do what he wants, dumb *****.
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In the immortal words of Chris Rock

"I'll never hit a woman."

Someone sure as hell needs to shake the sh*t out of this one though.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Liquid Karma:
In the immortal words of Chris Rock

"I'll never hit a woman."

Someone sure as hell needs to shake the sh*t out of this one though.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Bring the pain!

Chris Rock = beast
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Go Masters! CBS wont drop it. Masters wont die!
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You know what Greg Norman and I Dream of Jeannie have in common?

They both blew their Masters.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Liquid Karma:
<a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/golfonline/news/2002/08/31/masters_burk_ap/" target="_blank">NEW YORK (AP) -- Now that the Masters has eliminated its television sponsors, the leader of a national women's group said Saturday she will urge CBS Sports to drop coverage of golf's most-watched tournament until Augusta National has a female member.

Martha Burk, chairwoman of the National Council of Women's Organizations, said she will not give up the fight until the Masters fades away as a major championship or until the club admits a woman.
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Jeebus facking Christ. Somebody get this ***** a reality check.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">First of all, I have followed this and I've wanted to say "I don't care" because to me golf is abominable to play (I have been there, too -- I played a little golf in college), and even more atrocious to watch. I want to say I don't give a crap what Hootie Johnson does with his precious golf club.

But then there's Martha Burk. Now, if one considered some of my sociopolitical beliefs about my gender (1. I firmly believe women should be paid equally as a man for equal work; 2. I firmly believe the government or any other social institutions do not have the right to tell a woman what to do with her body; and finally, 3. I firmly believe if a woman says "no", she f'n *means* it) would automatically make me company with Burk.

However, the way I view this issue, Burk comes off more like she has a personal vendetta against Augusta rather than trying to be the beacon for feminism. She is just as embarassing in her pigheadedness as Hootie Johnson is in his.

However, Johnson *is* in the right on this issue because Augusta National is not a public entity, but a private one, therefore the powers that be at Augusta continue to have the right to exclude women as they see fit -- however backwards and repugnant that view may be. OTOH, if Augusta was a state-run or a municipal-run entity, then Burk would really have something to gripe about. All Martha Burk is doing with her continued campaign against Augusta is making an a-- of herself and, in my view, cheapening what sociopolitical gains women have gained over time.

--soonerterp.

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It's a private organization. She has no *** **** jurisdiction over the matter, and needs to mind her own f***ing buisness about the whole thing.

If she's going to play stereotypes - I'll play one too.

Go back to the kitchen, woman!

File this one under:
- Jesse Jackson
- Affirmative Action
- Title IX
- Special Interest Lobbies
- Bull-Dy** Women's Rights Groups like that of the 9/11 memorial

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Furthermore, if she has this much free time, and that big of a problem, why not let her start her own private organization for women, and have it hold a huge golf tourney for women only.

Oh - wait - my bad, that would fail.

Why?

NOBODY F'N WATCHES WOMEN'S GOLF!!!!!!!!

"I don't watch women's golf. It's boring. Besides, the guys are more competitive."
- Close personal friend of mine. She is a golf fanatic.
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Okay...I know I'm stepping into a minefield here...but here's my humble opinion. <img border="0" alt="[laugh]" title="" src="graemlins/laughing.gif" />

1) The lady from NOW (Ms. Burke) is going about this whole thing the wrong way. I personally believe that discrimination in any form is wrong--but to try and make the Masters die is carrying things a wee bit too far. I actually enjoy watching golf (thanks to Mr. LRT's influence...), and I think that trying to kill the tournement is only going to stir up more people than necessary. In other words, it's counter-productive to her cause.

2) Granted...Augusta National is a "private" course, but I still believe that their discrimination policy is wrong. Rhetorically...if this was an issue of race and not gender, would there even be an argument? The MAIN thing that pisses me off about their "no women" policy is how far they're willing to go to defend it. According to the article in the Washington Post that I read this morning (and no...I didn't click on the link above, so I don't know if it's basically the same thing), Augusta National is paying for everything on its own--when CBS(?) usually pays them between 5 and 10 million dollars for rights to the broadcast. That's a heck of a lot of money to throw away (not even considering how much they'll have to fork out to run the event) just so they don't have to admit women into the club. That sort of arrogance is what really makes me mad about the whole thing.

IMO, both sides are handling this issue the wrong way. Hootie, in his arrogance, is pissing off all kinds of women that don't normally give two hoots (no pun intended) about golf...and Ms. Burke is cutting off her nose to spite her face.

Seriously tho'...if this was an issue of a private club excluding minorities...would you guys be this worked up about it...or is it only okay to discriminate against women?

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