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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by nate jonesacc:
I sort of agree, Orio, but the only thing is that the feds feel comfortable saying that Atta met with Iraqi officials not long before 9/11. If they can tell us that much, methinks they know what was talked about, and it wasn't just about how great Islam is.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">hey, look, just read what the young tyke wrote...I really believe he is DEAD ON <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> , in this case.

In other cases... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="rolleyes.gif" /> SHEEEESH

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100 jets join attack on Iraq
By Michael Smith, Defence Correspondent
(Filed: 06/09/2002)

About 100 American and British aircraft took part in an attack on Iraq's major western air defence installation yesterday in the biggest single operation over the country for four years.


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The raid appeared to be a prelude to the type of special forces operations that would have to begin weeks before a possible American-led war. It was launched two days before a war summit between President George W Bush and Tony Blair in America.

The Prime Minister promised that Britain would be alongside the Americans "when the shooting starts".

The raid seemed designed to destroy air defences to allow easy access for special forces helicopters to fly into Iraq via Jordan or Saudi Arabia to hunt down Scud missiles before a possible war within the next few months.

Although only 12 aircraft dropped precision-guided bombs on to the H3 airfield, 240 miles west of Baghdad and close to Jordan, many support aircraft took part.

The strikes were carried out by nine American F15 Strike Eagles and three RAF Tornado GR4 ground attack aircraft flying from Kuwait.

At least seven types of aircraft took part. Fighter cover was provided by US F-16 Fighting Falcons and RAF Tornado F3s from Saudi Arabia. RAF VC10 tanker aircraft flying from Bahrain were among the support aircraft.

These also included EA6b Prowlers, which send out signals to confuse enemy radar, and E3a Awacs aircraft that co-ordinate operations and carry out reconnaissance of any response.

RAF Tornados also took part in the reconnaissance. American central command refused to go into detail about the number of aircraft involved in the raid.

It said: "Coalition strikes in the no-fly zones are executed as a self-defence measure in response to Iraqi hostile threats and acts against coalition forces and their aircraft."

The Pentagon said that the raid was launched in "response to recent Iraqi hostile acts against coalition aircraft monitoring the southern no-fly zone".

Iraq had made 130 attempts to shoot down coalition aircraft this year.

The Ministry of Defence in London refused to confirm that RAF aircraft had taken part, but defence sources said that Tornado ground attack and reconnaissance aircraft played a key role. The attack on what the American central command described as an "air defence command and control facility" was the first time that a target in western Iraq had been attacked during the patrols of the southern no-fly zone.

Until yesterday, all strikes had been against air defence sites in the south, around Basra, Amara, Nassairya and Baghdad.

Central command said it was still assessing the damage caused by the attack. If the air defence installation was not destroyed, a second raid is expected.

As well as blinding Iraqi radar to any special forces helicopters, the loss of the H3 installation would allow allied aircraft mounting major raids on Iraq a trouble-free route into the country.

In a further sign that America was preparing for war, a Pentagon official confirmed that heavy armour, ammunition and other equipment had been moved to Kuwait from huge stores in Qatar.

Thomas White, the army secretary, said: "We have done a lot with pre-positioned stocks in the Gulf, making sure that they are in the right spot to support whatever the president wants to do."

Any war on Iraq is likely to begin with a gradual intensification of attacks on air defences. But yesterday's raid appears more likely to be related to the special forces Scud hunts.

It was the SAS which specialised in the attempts to hunt down the Scuds during the Gulf war. Although the raids were largely unsuccessful, they spawned a series of rival books by former members of the regiment.

Mr Bush, speaking in Louisville, Kentucky, said that, besides having talks with Mr Blair, he would be meeting the leaders of France, Russia, China and Canada over the next few days. He would tell them that "history has called us into action" to oust Saddam Hussein, the president of Iraq.

He said he was looking forward to the talks, but suggested that the US could do the job on its own if need be.

"I am a patient man," he said. "I've got tools; we've got tools at our disposal. We cannot let the world's worst leaders blackmail, threaten, hold freedom-loving nations hostage with the world's worst weapons."

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09-06-2002 03:16 AM
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it looks to be getting closer every minute to an attack
09-06-2002 05:52 AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by techfan4:
it looks to be getting closer every minute to an attack</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Coincidentally it looks to be getting closer to election time.

I said all along that the war with Iraq would be ongoing during the elections this year.
09-06-2002 08:28 AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Liquid Karma:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by techfan4:
it looks to be getting closer every minute to an attack</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Coincidentally it looks to be getting closer to election time.

I said all along that the war with Iraq would be ongoing during the elections this year.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If you are implying that Bush & Co. are staging this war to win the election, I agree.

If not, then please don't yell at me for twisting your words. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />
09-06-2002 09:39 PM
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Bush and co. aren't really staging it, just timing it in a favorable time.

All along I knew Bush would want to finish what daddy started, he's just doing it to his advantage.

If you are trying to say Bush is only doing this to win an election, then I totally disagree.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by nate jonesacc:
Bush and co. aren't really staging it, just timing it in a favorable time.

All along I knew Bush would want to finish what daddy started, he's just doing it to his advantage.

If you are trying to say Bush is only doing this to win an election, then I totally disagree.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I totally agree.

BTW, I don't think winning the election is his only reason.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Jenibu:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by nate jonesacc:
Bush and co. aren't really staging it, just timing it in a favorable time.

All along I knew Bush would want to finish what daddy started, he's just doing it to his advantage.

If you are trying to say Bush is only doing this to win an election, then I totally disagree.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">BTW, I don't think winning the election is his only reason.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">good <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Oriorip5:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Paul:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by techfan4:
I think they just dont want us to bomb them...

<a href="http://www.themercury.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,5044472%255E401,00.html" target="_blank">http://www.themercury.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,5044472%255E401,00.html</a>

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">THE head of the Arab League warned that a US attack on Iraq would "open the gates of hell" in the Middle East, as Arab states backed Baghdad in the face of American threats.

While expressing their opposition to any attack on Iraq, Arab League foreign ministers, issuing a resolution after two days of talks, also refrained from putting any direct pressure on Baghdad to readmit UN weapons inspectors — though some Arab governments have urged Iraq to do so to defuse the crisis.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">America already has 3,000 dead in the streets of
New York. Do we sit back and allow the "World"
to tell us that we cannot defend ourselves?

Do we wait until they unleash a weapon of mass
destruction in this country and kill 3,000,000
Americans?

Or do we send our Trident Submarines into the
Middle East and tell every RagHead over there,
"You are with us or you are against us!"

This issue has to be faced sooner or later...
Before it is all over, we're going to have to
kill everyone of them anyway...why not do it
now!

We have the RIGHT to defend ourselves!</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">YOU CANT ATTACK UNTIL WE ARE ATTACKED!!!
Iraq did not attack the world trade towers. They did not kill 3,000 of us. A radical Arab group did. There is no proof they are going to attack us. We invade Iraq, and we threaten to break international law. Europe does not support this. Arab allies dont. We are idiots to attack.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Bush said...We will hunt down those who did this,
those that finance them and those that harbor
them.

In the next week...The world will discover what
they have and what they are developing...WHICH
is in violation of the UN sanctions levied against
them.

Hey fella's...Have you noticed every other vehicle
across the country sporting American flags, emblems or slogans since 9/11. This country
supports an attack on Iraq.

Do you want to wait until they detonate a nuclear
device on our country? Then what will we do...huh?

We would have no choice but to launch our missiles. Shall we wait for that to occur?

International Law? Europe doesn't support this?

These are animals we are dealing with.

Has anyone ever heard of Neville Chamberlain?
"There will be peace in our time!"

40,000,000 dead later...Neville had been proven
wrong!

Europe...There are three letters why all of
Europe is not speaking German or Russian Today...
"USA!"

In 1805...the French, The Prussians, The English
all were satisfied paying "tributes" to the
Barbery Pirates. But one 18 year old country
said...no! And it sent an Armada of ships,
8 Marines and enlisted 1,200 Arab mercenaries,
went to the Shores of Tripoli and put an end
to the Barbery Pirates.

It's time to go again!
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Outstanding post, Paul.

Nice anecdotes, too. Some say "Its none of our business to mess w/ other countries". If we didn't mess with WW2, who knows what Hitler might have done to France. Like you mentioned with the barbary pirates, etc....
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