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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> "How can Duke be a top 10 team and UNC not!??! Sure the Devils have Duhon, Ewing, and Jones, and a stellar recruiting class, but last time I checked, UNC has 3 McDonald's All-Americans coming in plus 2 other pure athletes. They also return Jawad William (can anyone say the next coming of Vince?) plus much improved Melvin Scott and Jackie Manuel. Either UNC's up there with Duke, or Duke's down there with UNC. Looks like Vitale strikes again."
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">-Methinks that this person is on ACCBBS.

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Maryland at 22 and Duke at 6?! That makes no sense. Duke and Maryland are in a similar boat IMO:
MD lost 4 starters and Duke lost 3
Maryland is also returning 4 "starters" (alright, only 1 was an actual starter, but Tahj was in the beginning of the year, and he, Drew, and Ryan all have the skills and experience of starters).
Duke is returning Duhon and Jones from the starting lineup, but neither one had to be a main man these past years with the "Big 3". Daniel Ewing is going to be a star, but still- ATOP THE ACC? that is in no way a given.
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This doesn't add up.

Maryland was national champs, and ACC Reg Season champs last year. So, their end of year ranking #1. Duke went to the Sweet 16, so their end of year ranking couldn't be higher than 5(tho i didn't check & the media may have put them higher).

Now if you buy what the media tells you here is the picture:
Duke had the POY and 1st team AA. They also had a 2nd and 3rd team AA. They also had a very thin bench. Only Ewing was consistently able to contribute off the bench.

Maryland lost a 1st team AA. And 3 other starters. All good players, but the media will tell you that their 2nd best player is not as good as duke's 3rd best player. Maryland was a very deep team last year.

Duke has a great recruiting class. But, so does maryland. Maryland also has an AA Juco player coming in. They have the sporting news 6th man of the year(drew nicholas) coming back. Maryland will not have to have any of their great freshman start in order to be successful. Duke will likely need 2 of their freshmen to start in order to be successful.

Based on this information, the media will have us believe that Duke will only fall 2 spots in the national rankings, but Maryland will fall 21 spots?

I find that to be extraordinary logic.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by The People's Champion:


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bttt

Who do you all think will be the top team in the land? I'm going with Arizona, mostly because I think that they have the best PG in the country, and an experienced group of players.
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first off, a point guard doesn't make a team, although i do like waltons style of play in zona. He reminds me of Dunleavy. Back to what everyone is arguing about, coming from my point of view this is how the acc stacks up next year. Duke, UNC, MD..... (the rest doesn't concern me). Here are my points. Although Tahj did play, he didn't have significant mintutes such as players from Duke like Ewing. A bright spot in the MD program will be Randle. He looks to me as a clone of Lonny Baxter, but that doesn't change next year's outcome because Lonny didn't become who he was in a 1 years time. Randle will be a key for MD starting the 2003-2004 season, thats given. Staying on MD's program, they do have a good PG in Blake, BUT (EMPHASIS ON BUT) a good PG is really only good as his teamates. If you looked at MD's run to the NCAA Championship, Blake and Juan, Wilcox, Baxter, Muton, all players that were very much capable of scoring. He made his mark by getting them the ball, but with Juan, Baxter, and Wilcox gone, i don't believe he can show that much, yet don't get me wrong he will still have stron numbers. Coach Williams will be able to put something together although i only forsee MD as a 9-15 Ranked in the nation, even that im not sure of since i haven't been able to look at the whole list of contenders. Next to Carolina. They are a struggling program although they will have IMPACT players coming in. When "Jay" Williams (i cringe at the name change) first came to Duke, he immediatly showed excellent numbers. If you look at Carolina's recruits you have a name that stands out...Felton. I watched him play at the TOC and he was very good, although he still has a little to go before becoming one of the premire players in college basketball. I think he will take the same course as Jay took by putting strong numbers in Freshman year, and then getting really good. Sean May is a space eater/ beast he will have strong numbers. Finally, McCants, i've heard is also a great player so UNC is set. Jawad williams will have a presence downlow. One thing i do have to bring out about UNC is that Manuel and Scott are not real great players. Hate to break it to the UNC fans, but i rather like to see felton be the main pg with manuel or scott subbing in at the 1, and 2. Finally, Duke. I beleve that Jones will have improved his game during this summer, he will be a big piece of puzzle to the Duke's 2002-2003 season. There is not much to say about Ewing, except that he is a rising star, he has a great offensive game and with Coach K behind him he can do great things. Duhon will be Duhon, although i hope for his own good that he will not shirk from the responsibility of being a scorer. He hasn't showed a great amount of scoring ability although he was foreshawdowed by dunleavy and williams. This coming year is his year, i believe we will see good offensive numbers becuase he will have to carry some of the load for Duke. A disadvantage/ yet advantage could be their recruits. Hands down, Duke has the most, or sharing, the #1 recruiting class with UNC. They have super talent, although inexperience. Late into the season is when you will see if they have gel-ed or haven't come together, but again with Coach K i think he will have them ready come Tourney time. All in all, these three teams will be outstanding, but i don't think we will be seeing them cutting down the nets for the championships, ALTOUGH at the same time, it is very possible. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
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A great point guard may not make a team, but to be a great team, you have to have a great point guard.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by DamascusTerp2:
A great point guard may not make a team, but to be a great team, you have to have a great point guard.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">TRUE TRUE, that slipped my mind, Very Good point! <img border="0" alt="[Bow]" title="" src="graemlins/bow.gif" />
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THANK YOU MR POTTER
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no need to thank me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" /> , it was just a very good point

<small>[ July 06, 2002, 09:15 PM: Message edited by: Harry Potter ]</small>
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<img border="0" alt="[Bow]" title="" src="graemlins/bow.gif" /> Harry Potter with the words of wisdom <img border="0" alt="[Bow]" title="" src="graemlins/bow.gif" />

Great summary, I agree with most of your points.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Harry Potter:
no need to thank me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" /> , it was just a very good point</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">IT was a reference to the movie chief, and usually whne people compliment me, I thank them.
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