Not that its an excuse, we definatley are horrible right now. but this makes the pill a little easier to swallow. New Admn from President, AD, to new Coaches... No recruiting time when new coaches hired. Brand new to the WAC, which is leaps and bounds better than the Sun Belt talent wise. The destruction the SBC has done to recruiting for NMSU over the years. AND the #3 hardest schedule in the nation, has all factored into our lack of sucess so far. Give us time, we will make the WAC proud in the future..

<a href='http://teamrankings.com/ncf/27powerratings.php3' target='_blank'>team rankings (all 119) sos</a>

CrimsonStormAgg Wrote:Not that its an excuse, we definatley are horrible right now.&nbsp; but this makes the pill a little easier to swallow.&nbsp; New Admn from President, AD, to new Coaches... No recruiting time when new coaches hired.&nbsp; Brand new to the WAC, which is leaps and bounds better than the Sun Belt talent wise.&nbsp; The destruction the SBC has done to recruiting for NMSU over the years.&nbsp; AND the #3 hardest schedule in the nation,&nbsp; has all factored into our lack of sucess so far.&nbsp; Give us time, we will make the WAC proud in the future..

<a href='http://teamrankings.com/ncf/27powerratings.php3' target='_blank'>team rankings (all 119) sos</a>

That site is a laugh. Do you really think that your #3 schedule has been that much tougher that Hawaii's #94, Fresno's #106, BSU's #111. I'm not buying it all.

Sometimes computers come up with some strange numbers. I think we all know the problems that the former sunbelt teams had coming in. The biggest problem that I see with the Red Aggies is lack of fan support. I saw 2 games on tv against ranked teams and no one bothered to show up to watch.

On the other hand, it is the SB transfers that are making BSU's, UH's, and FSU's SOS look so bad.
All 3 of those schools are playing some of the toughest OOC schedules in the country. So, if BSU and FSU could each play ourselves once and not play one of the sunbelt transfers, our sos (including conference games) would go up. IOW: Your conference schedule is harder than ours.

Not saying that it is the schools or fans fault but it will take some time for those programs to get up to par (even by WAC standards that haven't been that high).

Yeah, sorry to disappoint you CSA, but those rankings are boo boo. I, however, believe that NMSU is headed in the right direction and they will be strong before too long.

[QUOTE]All 3 of those schools are playing some of the toughest OOC schedules in the country. So, if BSU and FSU could each play ourselves once and not play one of the sunbelt teams, our sos (including conference games) would go up. IOW: Your conference schedule is harder than ours.
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Yeah, it must be those D1aa or D2 teams ya'll play keeping your OOC so much tougher than ours...

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[QUOTE=CrimsonStormAgg,Oct 24 2005, 08:48 PM] [QUOTE]All 3 of those schools are playing some of the toughest OOC schedules in the country. So, if BSU and FSU could each play ourselves once and not play one of the sunbelt teams, our sos (including conference games) would go up. IOW: Your conference schedule is harder than ours.
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Yeah, it must be those D1aa or D2 teams ya'll play keeping your OOC so much tougher than ours...

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Ah, my red Aggie friend, you are not keen to the Hawaii rule yet.

BSU and FSU (Hawaii as well as anyone who plays @Hawaii) get an extra regular season game to compensate for the cost of travel. For that to actually pay it has to be a home game. It is very hard to find a 1A team to go to Boise or Fresno for a one and done. We each play D1 OOC games

BSU had UGA, OSU and Bowling Green

FSU had Toledo, UO, and USC

UH has USC, Michigan state, Wisconsin and I believe SDSU (hawaii can get one an dones or do a 1-1 because the get an extra game every year)

So........... you should change your "I am with stupid" sign to read "I am stupid" and just for the record you should use that sign above your quote instead of below it or it looks like you are talking about what you just wrote. In this case it was correct but I would hope that won't always be the case.


(just kidding seriously)

I understand how the Extra game for playing Hawaii works. We get one too. The point I was trying to make was that the 1 (weak) game you and fresno played could have hurt your SOS as compared to ours. Yes, you both played 3 tough OOC... We played 4 (Utep, UNM, Colorado, and Cal) and 3 of those (Cal,CU, and Utep) all being better than OSU, BG, and Toledo IMO. This thread was not started to slight other WAC members, but to point out that as many might first look at NMSU as being a waste to have in this conference, we have played a VERY brutal schedule (as pointed out by the experts besides myself). And that hopefully with time,better fan support, better recuiting, and better scheduling we will prove we belong here. I believe we have not played a NON-Bowl team from last year yet, and every team we have played so far appears to be bowling this year... or at least still has a good shot at it. Exception: probably Hawaii, but as a Bronco fan, you know how good they are...

Good luck to the Broncs.

Peace out

also forgot to add that playing us has hurt everyones SOS, and will yours too...

CrimsonStormAgg Wrote:also forgot to add that playing us has hurt everyones SOS, and will yours too... &nbsp;

It is not unexpected that NMSU will hurt our SOS. I don't have a problem with that exept when a team causing it says something about our "Weak schedule". I think all of the former SB transfers will improve but it will take some time. I really don't know that much about NMSU specifically.

Cal (and others) going there is different. They would not come to Boise. In fact, Cal had a choice between BSU and a 1AA team (forget who it was now) at home for a one and done to open the season. They took the 1AA team. In a press conference Tedford pointed out the decision and said something about not wanting to open with Boise even at home. It was too risky in his opinion. That is how we ended up playing UGA. It coulda been a much better year had we opened at Cal instead of UGA (possibly).

No 1A team would come to Boise for a 1 and done because we can't pay them enough and still make the extra game pay off. Fresno has the same problem. It is not because we wanted to schedule a 1AA team.

BTW IMOHO Portland state could beat half the teams in the WAC.

One last comment: I have no idea what your AD was thinking when he/she scheduled your team for failure. It is good to be challenged but not so good to be humiliated. JMOHO

You guys (NMSU fans) don't need to justify your performance on the field, yet. We all knew that the transition from the Sun Belt would be difficult for your schools. (In football anyway) Has anyone really given you guys serious crap about it yet? As far as I'm concerned, this year (and next year) are "free" in terms of being allowed to rebuild. Frankly, I'm a little relieved that all of you aren't coming in and kicking our asses yet. Ever since we let those last two bratty kids in here (Boise State and LaTech), the two of them have hogged every single football title!

I do think that you guys (or at least NMSU and USU) will be expected to contribute something in Basketball though. The WAC took a huge hit with historical basketball powers Tulsa and UTEP and we're going to need teams to step up and fill the void.

WAC_FAN Wrote:You guys (NMSU fans) don't need to justify your performance on the field, yet. We all knew that the transition from the Sun Belt would be difficult for your schools. (In football anyway) Has anyone really given you guys serious crap about it yet? As far as I'm concerned, this year (and next year) are "free" in terms of being allowed to rebuild. Frankly, I'm a little relieved that all of you aren't coming in and kicking our asses yet. Ever since we let those last two bratty kids in here (Boise State and LaTech), the two of them have hogged every single football title!

I do think that you guys (or at least NMSU and USU) will be expected to contribute something in Basketball though. The WAC took a huge hit with historical basketball powers Tulsa and UTEP and we're going to need teams to step up and fill the void.

What will Idaho contribute???

broncobob Wrote:

WAC_FAN Wrote:You guys (NMSU fans) don't need to justify your performance on the field, yet.&nbsp; We all knew that the transition from the Sun Belt would be difficult for your schools. (In football anyway)&nbsp; Has anyone really given you guys serious crap about it&nbsp; yet?&nbsp; As far as I'm concerned, this year (and next year) are "free" in terms of being allowed to rebuild.&nbsp; Frankly, I'm a little relieved that all of you aren't coming in and kicking our asses yet.&nbsp; Ever since we let those last two bratty kids in here (Boise State and LaTech), the two of them have hogged every single football title!

I do think that you guys (or at least NMSU and USU) will be expected to contribute something in Basketball though.&nbsp; The WAC took a huge hit with historical basketball powers Tulsa and UTEP and we're going to need teams to step up and fill the void.

What will Idaho contribute???

Just this:



and this:



and, of course, this:



You friggin' idiot!

USU78 Wrote:

broncobob Wrote:

WAC_FAN Wrote:You guys (NMSU fans) don't need to justify your performance on the field, yet.  We all knew that the transition from the Sun Belt would be difficult for your schools. (In football anyway)  Has anyone really given you guys serious crap about it  yet?  As far as I'm concerned, this year (and next year) are "free" in terms of being allowed to rebuild.  Frankly, I'm a little relieved that all of you aren't coming in and kicking our asses yet.  Ever since we let those last two bratty kids in here (Boise State and LaTech), the two of them have hogged every single football title!

I do think that you guys (or at least NMSU and USU) will be expected to contribute something in Basketball though.  The WAC took a huge hit with historical basketball powers Tulsa and UTEP and we're going to need teams to step up and fill the void.

What will Idaho contribute???

Just this:



and this:



and, of course, this:



You friggin' idiot!

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