(01-03-2009 01:22 AM)Rebel Wrote:  

(01-03-2009 12:52 AM)blah Wrote:  +1

These guys deserve it. They played everyone on their schedule and come out 13-0. No one else can say that.

So it's about who went undefeated and not about who's the toughest?

Thanks, I'll call Nutt and tell him to start scheduling nothing but weak teams. We should be able to go undefeated.

Doesn't work that way, Blah.

BTW, Ball State was undefeated at one time and ranked #12. How'd that work out?

I'd like to hear your argument for why Utah shouldn't be #1. Utah's Strength of Schedule is harder than Alabama's and Southern Cal's (and I heard a lot of clamoring about them being #1). Their schedule certainly wasn't a cupcake and as SouthGAEagle said, they can't help what conference they are in.

The only way this will ever be solved is a playoff that includes a team from every D-I conference.

That's the ONLY way to do it. Just think how well someone like UTAH could do with a LEVEL playing field? Maybe that is what some of them are afraid of?

(01-03-2009 11:48 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  

(01-02-2009 09:21 PM)Rebel Wrote:  I would love a rematch with Alabama. Doubt it would turn out the same.

#1 I doubt you would beat the Criminal Turds and #2 Utah would kick your SEC butts all over the field.

After watching BOTH games yesterday with intensity, there's no way in hell the Utes would be able to handle Ole Miss's defense. Not to mention, the Ute's defense wouldn't be able to get to Snead like they got to the Parker Wilson. He's simply unimpressive to me and much less impressive than Snead, a Jr who's only played one year.

As for a "weak SEC", we've lost only two bowl games, that's it. After seeing Okie State and TT go down, I'm pretty sure that record will stand.

Nobody would want to face Southern Cal right now. They would have the best chance in a playoff. IMHO. Come to think of it thats what it is. I was going to say Southern Cal would win it but that's why you play em on the field. You could probably put 16 teams in it. Those 16 teams could play each other 4 different times and you would probably end up with 4 different champions. Fl could win it, so could USC and Texas. How could you count out Utah after this? I like the bowl system because it makes the regular season so intriging. We watch every Sat in the fall because EVERY game matters. In a playoff system that's not the case. For those clamoring about a playoff. Understand it will ruin the regular season. It my opinion Utah followed the rules went 13-0. They deserve some votes and maybe even the AP national championship.

Quote:I'd like to hear your argument for why Utah shouldn't be #1. Utah's Strength of Schedule is harder than Alabama's and Southern Cal's (and I heard a lot of clamoring about them being #1). Their schedule certainly wasn't a cupcake and as SouthGAEagle said, they can't help what conference they are in.

We were supposed to play Utah this year in Salt Lake City but they ended up cancelling citing difficulty of schedule. They ended up replacing us with Div II Weber State. We played UTEP instead in El Paso.

There was a reason why I had hoped that UT would have played Alabama in the BCS National Championship Game. Last night reminded me of why. :-) For those of us who have followed college football for over 35 years, it was plainly obvious that Bama overachieved all year.

We beat 3 Top Ten teams in a row and were on the verge of beating a fourth when a couple of fluke plays happened. Last time I checked, 3 of a kind beats 2 pair in poker everytime. :-) If UT wins the Fiesta Bowl, we should be no less than #2 in the land. If we beat Ohio State convincingly then we should be considered above Utah for the AP MNC.

(01-03-2009 05:44 PM)RC Horn Wrote:  

Quote:I'd like to hear your argument for why Utah shouldn't be #1. Utah's Strength of Schedule is harder than Alabama's and Southern Cal's (and I heard a lot of clamoring about them being #1). Their schedule certainly wasn't a cupcake and as SouthGAEagle said, they can't help what conference they are in.

We were supposed to play Utah this year in Salt Lake City but they ended up cancelling citing difficulty of schedule. They ended up replacing us with Div II Weber State. We played UTEP instead in El Paso.

There was a reason why I had hoped that UT would have played Alabama in the BCS National Championship Game. Last night reminded me of why. :-) For those of us who have followed college football for over 35 years, it was plainly obvious that Bama overachieved all year.

We beat 3 Top Ten teams in a row and were on the verge of beating a fourth when a couple of fluke plays happened. Last time I checked, 3 of a kind beats 2 pair in poker everytime. :-) If UT wins the Fiesta Bowl, we should be no less than #2 in the land. If we beat Ohio State convincingly then we should be considered above Utah for the AP MNC.

Ohio State and the entire Big 10 were weak all year. I think their bowl record speaks to that. If you guys don't crush them (and I am talking about by at least 17 points) you should be ashamed. Secondly, you guys lost to Texas Tech, who just got manhandled by Ole Miss. I still say without a better way to conclude (i.e. playoff) Utah is undefeated and deserves a share of the national title.

I think its too simple to say that Texas lost to Tech, and Tech got stomped by Ole Miss and therefore Texas has no right to atleast claim # 2 in the land, its much more complicated than that.

If Texas is able to handle Ohio State and Oklahoma ends up winning its certainly fair to place Texas number 2 and they would probably like to claim number 1 as they beat Oklahoma.

I mean look at what happened when Texas played Texas Tech, they were getting butt raped, and then came all the way back only to lose when Crabtree made an all time great play with a second left on the clock. People are going to be talking about that Crabtree play for the next 20 years.

Utah would KILL Ole Miss...... and as much as it pains me to admit it you would lose to the Turds again.

(01-03-2009 05:44 PM)RC Horn Wrote:  

Quote:I'd like to hear your argument for why Utah shouldn't be #1. Utah's Strength of Schedule is harder than Alabama's and Southern Cal's (and I heard a lot of clamoring about them being #1). Their schedule certainly wasn't a cupcake and as SouthGAEagle said, they can't help what conference they are in.

We were supposed to play Utah this year in Salt Lake City but they ended up cancelling citing difficulty of schedule. They ended up replacing us with Div II Weber State. We played UTEP instead in El Paso.

There was a reason why I had hoped that UT would have played Alabama in the BCS National Championship Game. Last night reminded me of why. :-) For those of us who have followed college football for over 35 years, it was plainly obvious that Bama overachieved all year.

We beat 3 Top Ten teams in a row and were on the verge of beating a fourth when a couple of fluke plays happened. Last time I checked, 3 of a kind beats 2 pair in poker everytime. :-) If UT wins the Fiesta Bowl, we should be no less than #2 in the land. If we beat Ohio State convincingly then we should be considered above Utah for the AP MNC.

Weber State isn't Division II. They're Division I, Football Championship Subdivision. The same subdivision as Florida's opponent The Citadel and Oklahoma's opponent Chattanooga.

Last time I checked, a win trumps a loss too.

(01-03-2009 08:29 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  Utah would KILL Ole Miss

Tell me about, rebel kev is an uber homer.

(01-03-2009 10:56 PM)Terpy Wrote:  

(01-03-2009 08:29 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  Utah would KILL Ole Miss

Tell me about, rebel kev is an uber homer.

I saw Utah play last night and I saw Ole Miss play yesterday. It's not about being an Uber Homer, it's about the intensity I have when watching a game. I won't say we can beat USC. I won't even say we'd beat the Gators again. However, what Utah did to 'Bama last night showed me a few things, 'Bama's defense and Offense sucks. Parker Wilson is over-rated. ....and Ole Miss was one of those teams that, after losing a coach and gaining another, got better and better and better. We've won our last 6 games, and that includes LSU who dismantled GT. THAT'S what a GDamn playoff should be about. It's not how you were in early season as teams can either progress or regress, it's about who's the best at the END of season. We dismantled TT. Don't think so? It SHOULD have been 54-34, but, like it should have been 38-13 against LSU, Nutt has class.

Now, everyone's talking about USC. Well, why do you say that? Because he runs up the damn score on teams like Washington, Washington State, and Stanford? I'd LOVE to see'em in the SEC. I'd love to see how they perform with other teams who are consistent in toughness.

Fact us, TT beat Texas, who beat OU, who beat TT. Ole Miss destroyed TT. Okie State ALSO lost. The Big-12, IMO, is weak, defensively. The SEC, IMO, has the best defense in the country.....as usual.

As for those STILL saying Ole Miss sucks, we lost 4 games, by a combined total of 19 points. Hell, UGA lost 3 games by a total of 53. Ole Miss isn't as bad as you moh-rons say. We dismantled the #7 team in the country. How many of you can say that about your teams? We also beat the new national champion. .....yes, I know it's premature, but just watch.

Who's better is all speculation until it's proven on the field...