Yeah...most of those school's have big problems for getting into the pac 10, ie like unlv + academics but those are the school's i would put into the consideration pool. In the end, if the pac 10 ever expands to 12, i think its 2 out these 3: utah, byu, and colorado...i'd guess unless colorado joins, the pac 10 stays at 10 but i wouldn't be totally shocked if they someday added byu + utah to go to 12...think that's more likely than them ever adding say U of texas. On other thing, the travel for U of Col in the big 12 is a heck of a lot easier than it would be if they joined the pac 10...UC is closer to big 12 school's + no driving through mountains.

Utah all sports.

Notre Dame football only after the B-10/11 gets tired of waiting for them for all sports and takes Rutgers for number 12.

The BE will still kiss ND's leprechaun for 1 football game a year and they will keep the rest of ND's BB and Olympic sports programs. They will still offer ND the Gator Bowl 2 out of 4 years if they can't get the Rose Bowl or a BCS Bowl too. ND becomes the first true coast to coast sports university and keeps their FB contract money too when they aren't playing PAC -10 schools.

BE responds to all of this by adding Boise St and Fresno St for FB only to become the first true coast to coast sports conference to maintain their BCS standing by claiming a total national TV market, and becoming the co-anchor conference for both the Fiesta Bowl for their western teams, and the Orange Bowl for their eastern teams.

(01-25-2009 03:58 PM)panite Wrote:  Utah all sports.

Notre Dame football only after the B-10/11 gets tired of waiting for them for all sports and takes Rutgers for number 12.

The BE will still kiss ND's leprechaun for 1 football game a year and they will keep the rest of ND's BB and Olympic sports programs. They will still offer ND the Gator Bowl 2 out of 4 years if they can't get the Rose Bowl or a BCS Bowl too. ND becomes the first true coast to coast sports university and keeps their FB contract money too when they aren't playing PAC -10 schools.

BE responds to all of this by adding Boise St and Fresno St for FB only to become the first true coast to coast sports conference to maintain their BCS standing by claiming a total national TV market, and becoming the co-anchor conference for both the Fiesta Bowl for their western teams, and the Orange Bowl for their eastern teams.

Actually, there was a semi-serious conference attempt on CSI covering the exact same ground you did, Panite. It was made about 3 years ago by some guy named Lash.

http://collegesportsinfo.com/forum/viewt...f=12&t=621

I think you'll find this pretty interesting....

Well, if ND was willing, the pac 10 probably would add utah for spot #11 if it meant getting ND for a football only membership...yet don't see what is in it for ND in that setup, ie if they want to join a league, they should join the big 10 after all big 10 + pac 10 school's are pretty similar. As for the big east adding a western school for football only membership...you know it could work out very well...the big east could add SD state for football only and than have 9 football members... SD state would put all their other sports in the big west conference...what does the big east get? huge market + branding opp in the whole state of CA, nice roadtrip, good academic/alumni profile, solves the football schedule problem...heck its perfect...sd state gets into the bcs football which should really help its program and fits in nice in the big west for other sports. I guess you probably could also make a case for either BYU or Air Force, they both have some national standing, instead of SD st for getting the football only membership in the big east but not sure where those school's would put their other sports (maybe the big sky).

9 team Big East Football

Uconn
Syra
Rutgers
Pitt
W.Virg
Cincy
Lville
S.FL
AFA/BYU/SD ST (i would pick SD ST)


12 team big east

guess the option of adding Air Force, Navy, Army, and team x(ND?) to get to 12 might also work...

E
Uconn
Syra
Rut
Pitt
W.Virg
S.FL

W
Cincy
Lville
ND
Army
Navy
AFA

bluesox I really respected your opinions before but BYU, San Diego St in the big east for football only makes no sense at all. Your post is as assinine as I ever seen. I hope your whole post was sarcasm based and not for real.

Yeah...that is some crazy thinking about sd state and the big east...well it sorta works in theory but not in reality it would be laughable if ever implemented... the idea of the 3 services academies joining up is kinda of fun in theory too i guess but of course those moves will never ever happen either.

Something else that nixes BYU: They refuse to play on Sundays, which doesn't sit well with the Pac-10. If there is going to be any expansion, A) it would most likely be Utah and Colorado (and they would join the OR and WA schools in a Pac-10 North), and B) they probably won't make a move until the Big 10 adds a 12th.

I know the sunday issue keeps coming up but how often does the Pac 10 actually play on sundays?

(01-10-2009 07:24 AM)XLance Wrote:  There are 66 BCS schools right now with 6 "major" conferences. The prudent thing to do is to divide the 66 into 6 equal number conferences (11 members each).
This could be done with a small amout of movement.
Big East adds BC, Miami, and yes, Notre Dame.
Big Ten stays the same.
Pac Ten adds Colorado.
Big XII loses Colorado.
The SEC adds Florida State..loses Georgia and South Carolina
The ACC adds Georgia and South Carolina.

10 conference games (no divisions)..
2 OOC games per year

This is an interesting thought but the SEC would never allow a charter member(Georgia)to leave in this scenario.

The Pac-10 Will never ever ever ever ever ever add BYU. THEY WILL NEVER ADD BYU. HOLY CRAP, SERIOUSLY GUYS. THE PAC-10 WILL NEVER EVER ADD BYU.

Do you people really think the pac-10 schools with the likes of UCLA, UC-Berkley, Stanford, Arizona, Washington, Oregon, and Southern California would ever add a school they thought didn't have total academic freedom? Seriously? The most elite universities on the west coast adding a school to their conference that they saw as religiously dogmatic to the extent of effecting it's teachings? Never. Never Never Never.

(04-12-2009 03:25 PM)canewton Wrote:  The Pac-10 Will never ever ever ever ever ever add BYU. THEY WILL NEVER ADD BYU. HOLY CRAP, SERIOUSLY GUYS. THE PAC-10 WILL NEVER EVER ADD BYU.

Do you people really think the pac-10 schools with the likes of UCLA, UC-Berkley, Stanford, Arizona, Washington, Oregon, and Southern California would ever add a school they thought didn't have total academic freedom? Seriously? The most elite universities on the west coast adding a school to their conference that they saw as religiously dogmatic to the extent of effecting it's teachings? Never. Never Never Never.

Many years ago the same could have been said of the B10 and Notre Dame. Granted ND's academics are top notched but there was a time when many in the B10 didnt want anything to do with "the catholics in south bend"
The academic standards of most pac 10 schools dont necesarily apply to their FB players. A few of the P10 schools have some of the lowest grad rates in the country

Look at the difference in research done at ND and BYU. If ND had research expenditures like BYU they wouldn't be after them. Membership in the Big 10 requires Tier 1 status. Plus the Catholic Church isn't necessarily seen as anti-science. Just look at comments made by head Vatican astronomers.

I see UNLV/Nevada getting in the Pac 10 before BYU/Utah.

For reasons mostly already mentioned the PAC-10 is unlikely to expand (unless it could bring in Texas and Texas A&M). They are the only BCS conference in the western part of the country. They are secure in a way the ACC never was prior to the raid. The extra money from any of the other western states just won't bring in enough to balance out the extra mouths to feed (unless they could get Texas) and the non-California schools just aren't going to be willing to give up their trips to California each year.

If we see realignment in the next couple of years, I think it will start in the Big East (9th member and/or split) or Big Ten (addition of Notre Dame if television contract becomes an issue, Missouri, Rutgers or Syracuse). Really, I'd expect things to be pretty stable, except that I'm expecting an economic meltdown like this country's never seen and I don't know how that will effect college football.

well when texas suceeds from the union.. things will get shook up with the then out of country schools..

Sucession may be the only way to enforce the Constitution....and recast conference memberships.

If any BCS conference were to go after BYU & Utah I believe it would be the Big 12. Big 12 was exposed during the bowl season for not being quite as good as their hype. Add Utah (who's won 2 BCS bowls) and BYU and you've significantly improved the Big 12 North. BYU outdraws every Big 12 North program except Nebraska and Utah would be a favorite to win the Big 12 North.