http://sportsbusinessjournal.com/article/61603

They are hiring one of IMG's top negotiators to represent the conference. Couple notes

-ESPN is expected to make a play for the basketball rights, currently held by Raycom. ESPN, FSN and others buy games from Raycom.

-ESPN isn't expected to ask for the syndication rights to either football or basketball because of conflicts in many of the markets where ESPN will be the SEC's syndication partner

-Comcast and/or Time Warner may partner with Raycom to retain the basketball rights. Wonder if Versus gets content from Raycom if Comcast is the partner. Comcast is a major cable carrier where eight ACC schools reside (Miami, Boston, DC/Maryland, Virginia, Atlanta, South Carolina) and Time Warner is the cable carrier through most of North Carolina.

-An ACC channel is highly unlikely

-The ACC may wait until next spring, as their rights agreements begin to expire, before taking any bids as they hope for a healthier economy.

(02-23-2009 09:02 PM)mattsarz Wrote:  http://sportsbusinessjournal.com/article/61603

They are hiring one of IMG's top negotiators to represent the conference. Couple notes

-ESPN is expected to make a play for the basketball rights, currently held by Raycom. ESPN, FSN and others buy games from Raycom.

-ESPN isn't expected to ask for the syndication rights to either football or basketball because of conflicts in many of the markets where ESPN will be the SEC's syndication partner

-Comcast and/or Time Warner may partner with Raycom to retain the basketball rights. Wonder if Versus gets content from Raycom if Comcast is the partner. Comcast is a major cable carrier where eight ACC schools reside (Miami, Boston, DC/Maryland, Virginia, Atlanta, South Carolina) and Time Warner is the cable carrier through most of North Carolina.

-An ACC channel is highly unlikely

-The ACC may wait until next spring, as their rights agreements begin to expire, before taking any bids as they hope for a healthier economy.

The Acc will get an increase in their deals. How much remains to be seen. But if they think that they are going to get anywhere near the SEC type of money, they are going to be thoroughly disappointed.

Did we ever get hard numbers on that great TV deal we got? would be good to see how our deal in basketball having so many TV markets and being the best league compare to theirs.

(02-24-2009 06:07 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Did we ever get hard numbers on that great TV deal we got? would be good to see how our deal in basketball having so many TV markets and being the best league compare to theirs.

At the time the Big East contract was signed -

The ACC's bb contract was the richest of all the conferences. It is valued at over $30 million, divided by 12 schools.

The Big East's bb contract was supposedly second, at $24 million, divided by 16 schools. The league sacrificed $$$ for exposure.

With the BTN (all sports are bundled together, so it is hard to figure out how much of it is being alloted to bb vs fb) and the new SEC contracts (same thing, no discussion of what sport is being assigned what value) it is all moot.

Each of those conferences are (or soon will be in the SEC's case) making $16 million or more from their TV contracts alone. That isn't even accounting for other conference revenues.

Meanwhile the ACC is currently making between $12-13 million each for all conference revenue combined.

They are followed by the Pac-10 and the Big 12.

And then after those two conferences comes the Big East.

Let's face it. It is football that is the driver of this engine, and the Big East just doesn't compare in terms of name value football programs.

It could be worse. We could be C-USA.

Cheers,
Neil

(02-24-2009 10:56 PM)omnicarrier Wrote:  

(02-24-2009 06:07 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Did we ever get hard numbers on that great TV deal we got? would be good to see how our deal in basketball having so many TV markets and being the best league compare to theirs.

At the time the Big East contract was signed -

The ACC's bb contract was the richest of all the conferences. It is valued at over $30 million, divided by 12 schools.

The Big East's bb contract was supposedly second, at $24 million, divided by 16 schools. The league sacrificed $$$ for exposure.

With the BTN (all sports are bundled together, so it is hard to figure out how much of it is being alloted to bb vs fb) and the new SEC contracts (same thing, no discussion of what sport is being assigned what value) it is all moot.

Each of those conferences are (or soon will be in the SEC's case) making $16 million or more from their TV contracts alone. That isn't even accounting for other conference revenues.

Meanwhile the ACC is currently making between $12-13 million each for all conference revenue combined.

They are followed by the Pac-10 and the Big 12.

And then after those two conferences comes the Big East.

Let's face it. It is football that is the driver of this engine, and the Big East just doesn't compare in terms of name value football programs.

It could be worse. We could be C-USA.

Cheers,
Neil

But again we are not talking about football. We are talking about basketball second to none, more games than any league and reach larger market than any league. And yet for all the argument for this and the real dollars that count the most not even come close to the other 5 major conferences. Maybe we don’t have enough exposure. Unbelievable, counting ESPN360 and ESPNU as an exposure.

(02-24-2009 11:48 PM)SO#1 Wrote:  

(02-24-2009 10:56 PM)omnicarrier Wrote:  

(02-24-2009 06:07 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Did we ever get hard numbers on that great TV deal we got? would be good to see how our deal in basketball having so many TV markets and being the best league compare to theirs.

At the time the Big East contract was signed -

The ACC's bb contract was the richest of all the conferences. It is valued at over $30 million, divided by 12 schools.

The Big East's bb contract was supposedly second, at $24 million, divided by 16 schools. The league sacrificed $$$ for exposure.

With the BTN (all sports are bundled together, so it is hard to figure out how much of it is being alloted to bb vs fb) and the new SEC contracts (same thing, no discussion of what sport is being assigned what value) it is all moot.

Each of those conferences are (or soon will be in the SEC's case) making $16 million or more from their TV contracts alone. That isn't even accounting for other conference revenues.

Meanwhile the ACC is currently making between $12-13 million each for all conference revenue combined.

They are followed by the Pac-10 and the Big 12.

And then after those two conferences comes the Big East.

Let's face it. It is football that is the driver of this engine, and the Big East just doesn't compare in terms of name value football programs.

It could be worse. We could be C-USA.

Cheers,
Neil

But again we are not talking about football. We are talking about basketball second to none, more games than any league and reach larger market than any league.

I understood what was being discussed. My point is that it is NOW, irrelevant in this new age of the BTN and the contract the SEC received simply due to the threat of an SEC Network.

Quote:And yet for all the argument for this and the real dollars that count the most not even come close to the other 5 major conferences. Maybe we don’t have enough exposure. Unbelievable, counting ESPN360 and ESPNU as an exposure.

You may have misunderstood my point. I said in the last round of negotiations, the league sacrificed $$$ for exposure (at least in terms of bb) - which is why you are now seeing so many Big East bb games all over the place. The exposure issue was back in 2005 when the Big East was negotiating the contract. It isn't an issue now, thanks in large part to the league settling for less $$$ for more exposure.

Cheers,
Neil

(02-24-2009 11:48 PM)SO#1 Wrote:  But again we are not talking about football. We are talking about basketball second to none, more games than any league and reach larger market than any league. And yet for all the argument for this and the real dollars that count the most not even come close to the other 5 major conferences. Maybe we don’t have enough exposure. Unbelievable, counting ESPN360 and ESPNU as an exposure.

The BE has great BB... but that doesnt mean it is a marketable as the ACC. Nor does the big markets. anymore than big markets make CUSA the = of the bcs gang.