So you're saying the bowl games produce no mismatches, or games that nobody watches? That's as stupid as most of your other claims. You're merely making generalizations based on nothing what so ever. There is no data on a playoff for major colleges, or it's effect on whatever remains. Any projection at this point is mere speculation, and therefore meaningless...

If it was not about those bowls losing money, they would have no problem with a play off. The BCS has said that the bowls would go away if a play off come into existance. The bottom line for any bowl is dollars. Without the NC game, the BCS has no control over anything but their bowl games. Which would regulate back to the old days where bowls done their own deals, Dont think that a tv station is going to give more for any of those 4 games than they are play offs. If anything, the play off will devalue the bowl games.

(05-05-2009 10:15 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  So you're saying the bowl games produce no mismatches, or games that nobody watches? That's as stupid as most of your other claims. You're merely making generalizations based on nothing what so ever. There is no data on a playoff for major colleges, or it's effect on whatever remains. Any projection at this point is mere speculation, and therefore meaningless...

Now you're putting words in my mouth. Maybe you need a brain transplant to go along with your laundry list of medical issues...

Hey you lifted your foot to the level of your mouth. I just gave it a gentle shove. If the taste of your foot in your mouth isn't to your liking, stop putting it there...

(05-05-2009 10:44 AM)MichaelSavage Wrote:  

(05-05-2009 10:15 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  So you're saying the bowl games produce no mismatches, or games that nobody watches? That's as stupid as most of your other claims. You're merely making generalizations based on nothing what so ever. There is no data on a playoff for major colleges, or it's effect on whatever remains. Any projection at this point is mere speculation, and therefore meaningless...

Now you're putting words in my mouth. Maybe you need a brain transplant to go along with your laundry list of medical issues...

America loves the underdog. It dates back to the begin of the American revolution. We were the underdogs from the beginning. How did that turn out for us? NCAA tournament proves that theory. You may not be interested in that game but I bet there are other who would be. You dont speak for me or other but yourself. I believe my statements are a dose of reality and common sense. Hear is a fair assestment, which is more popular, the NCAA tournament or the NIT tournament?Which of these two do you believe brings in the most ad dollars? This would be the equalivant to the play off vs bowl games.

(05-05-2009 11:00 AM)gdayre Wrote:  

(05-05-2009 10:44 AM)MichaelSavage Wrote:  

(05-05-2009 10:15 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  So you're saying the bowl games produce no mismatches, or games that nobody watches? That's as stupid as most of your other claims. You're merely making generalizations based on nothing what so ever. There is no data on a playoff for major colleges, or it's effect on whatever remains. Any projection at this point is mere speculation, and therefore meaningless...

Now you're putting words in my mouth. Maybe you need a brain transplant to go along with your laundry list of medical issues...

America loves the underdog. It dates back to the begin of the American revolution. We were the underdogs from the beginning. How did that turn out for us? NCAA tournament proves that theory. You may not be interested in that game but I bet there are other who would be. You dont speak for me or other but yourself. I believe my statements are a dose of reality and common sense. Hear is a fair assestment, which is more popular, the NCAA tournament or the NIT tournament?Which of these two do you believe brings in the most ad dollars? This would be the equalivant to the play off vs bowl games.

If America loves the underdog so much then why was George Mason's Final Four game one of the lowest viewed games in recent FF history? If sports fans truly love the underdog then why do football games featuring C-USA, WAC, MWC, etc. have such poor viewership? Because the average sports fan couldn't care less about those teams.

Then why was Kansas and Memphis one of the highest rated Championship games in years too? Why has the ACC championship game been such a failure with their championship game too? Why does the Big 10 sport so slow? Why was the Orange Bowl the worst rated BCS bowl game? Why has the Liberty Bowl drawn better viewer than the Orange Bowl? Why does everybody feel the BE is the weakest of the BCS conference? I dont have all the answer nor do I claim too.

(05-05-2009 11:41 AM)gdayre Wrote:  Then why was Kansas and Memphis one of the highest rated Championship games in years too? Why has the ACC championship game been such a failure with their championship game too? Why does the Big 10 sport so slow? Why was the Orange Bowl the worst rated BCS bowl game? Why has the Liberty Bowl drawn better viewer than the Orange Bowl? Why does everybody feel the BE is the weakest of the BCS conference? I dont have all the answer nor do I claim too.

Actually, Kansas-Memphis ratings weren't all that great. This year's game between UNC & Michigan State did substantially better. The ACC championship game has not fared well because it has routinely lacked top ranked teams playing each other. The Orange Bowl was a poor draw from a TV matchup as it featured a game between a relative unknown nationally (UC) vs. a champion with 4 losses in Virginia Tech. I'd like to see a link that the Liberty Bowl did better ratings than the Orange Bowl.

Liberty Bowl has done better than alot of bowls that includes your so called BCS match ups. Exposure is the reason why they dont get the viewer. If you use the excuse that UC is relative unknown,,then the same can be said of the non bcs schools. I guess you could say the same thing about some of the BE bb programs too. Why is it that certain schools in the BE only get one game a year on TV? Why does some of them never appear unless on the MSG or NY television? Why are some of the team and match ups are not on ESPN? Why doesnt the BE power promote better bb match than they do?

Liberty and the lowest-rated BCS bowl
2008: 4.14, 7.00 (Sugar)
2007: 3.24, 6.98 (Orange)
2006: 3.31, 9.00 (Sugar)
2005: 4.6, 7.4 (Fiesta)
2004: 2.44, 8.7 (Fiesta)
2003: 1.7, 9.2 (Sugar)

BTW, a non-BCS bowl beat out a BCS bowl in 2008. Michigan vs. Florida drew a 9.13 rating, better than BCS matchups WV - OK, KS - VA Tech and GA - HI

(05-04-2009 10:33 PM)rferry Wrote:  

(05-04-2009 05:28 PM)PGPirate Wrote:  Thats why I think an 11 + 5 is the best method.
How is this not fair?!

It's unfair to the nation's top teams, the conferences they belong to and the TV networks that follow them, that they have to play 3 additional rounds before the final. They deserve a bye far more than the SBC or MAC deserve an automatic berth. None of the NCAA-sanctioned championships in football provide automatic berths to all the division's conferences. Why should be the FBS be any different?

Yes....put me down as someone who believes in the 1st round bye method. To let's say, the top 4 teams if we are talking about a 16 team playoff.

Tighten the conferences up to 8. Give 4 at-large there is 12. Top four get byes. Give the first round to the higher seed. Second and third round will be six games (4 BCS games + Cotton + Capital One or whatever, and let them rotate) than the NC Game. Easy enough