A few decisions in the past 3 days that were decidedly middle or even leaning to the right.

First the decision on detainees from Guatanamo. Then a move on private health care. And then the decision to appoint John Huntsman as Ambassador to China.

Perhaps it's all calculated to counter what could be a liberal Supreme Court appointee, but as I've said numerous times before, I don't think Obama is as much a leftist as many of you make him out to be.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...eheadlines

(05-17-2009 07:04 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  A few decisions in the past 3 days that were decidedly middle or even leaning to the right.

First the decision on detainees from Guatanamo. Then a move on private health care. And then the decision to appoint John Huntsman as Ambassador to China.

Perhaps it's all calculated to counter what could be a liberal Supreme Court appointee, but as I've said numerous times before,

I don't think Obama is as much a leftist as many of you make him out to be.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...eheadlines

I don't believe that is it at all .... the 'Benito Mussolini of DC' is quickly finding out that actually Governing from the Oval Office is a Head Butting Reality Check versus BS'ing about how Great He Is while Stumping on the Campaign Trail.

As most of us who live in the "Real World" found out a long time ago, Reality Bites Chunks out of your Posterior in a most painful and bloody way, while Campaign Speeches and such easily performed crap is a no-brainer to achieve and is surely no Mensa Style Accomplishment when compared too actually having to Show Up to Work and Not just Vote "Present" and be the President of the United States, has proved to be a REAL JOB with REAL CONSEQUENCES to it for a man who is NOT USED to Working.

A 'Super Culture Shock' to such a pampered little man who is suddenly cast into the Honing Fires where he is lost as a goose in a hurricane.

It is good to see the "Jutting Chin" have to pull back with much "Humbling of Self", since he has thought of his election as some sort of "Immaculate Inception" into a Mandate to utterly rape, rawhide, rail against, and pillage the Nation and the Constitution of the United States.

If he spent as much time Listening to People Who Know and less time Apologizing to Despots and Beheaders for the Benevolent Strength and Power of the United States, he just may have seen that the U.S. consist of more than JUST HIM and HIS SPOILED BRAT DESIRES.

I don't give him a 'Trillionth of an Inch' because he went in like a Tornado and ripped the place apart before he knew his ass from a hole in the Oval Office Floor and we are now having to pay for his Defiant Arrogance as will our Great Great Grandchildren.

Nope, no slack given here (but then no one would expect anything less from me) ...

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I don't know how a blind man could not see how left this goon is.

The BS about ObamaMessiah governing from the center died when he signed a bill that was put together by lobbyists and not a word of it's 10000 pages was read by anybody in the House, Senate or the Whitehouse.

Huntsman being named Ambassador does nothing for any of you? I think that's a pretty gutsy move and a good one at that.

Everybody knows good will gestures can pay dividends.

(05-17-2009 11:04 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Huntsman being named Ambassador does nothing for any of you? I think that's a pretty gutsy move and a good one at that.

If Obama made Huntsman a Supreme Court Justice instead of a Cushy Far Out of the Way Job like Ambassador to Neptune, then yeah, it would make a lot of difference to to me.

I don't really see getting all weepy and worked up over a Republican being made an Ambassador - - that is like making him President of the PGA just before the U.S. Open for all practical purposes.

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(05-17-2009 11:04 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Huntsman being named Ambassador does nothing for any of you? I think that's a pretty gutsy move and a good one at that.

So what that Huntsman was worked with the Chinese on Trade Relations during Bush 41's Administration. Obama is just trying to politically neutralize a successful Republican Governor.

(05-17-2009 01:18 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(05-17-2009 11:04 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Huntsman being named Ambassador does nothing for any of you? I think that's a pretty gutsy move and a good one at that.

So what that Huntsman was worked with the Chinese on Trade Relations during Bush 41's Administration. Obama is just trying to politically neutralize a successful Republican Governor.

+1
It does nothing to make Obama more attractive to me.

(05-17-2009 07:04 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I've said numerous times before, I don't think Obama is as much a leftist as many of you make him out to be.

He always has been.
Do you think the presidency will cause him to change?
We can hope for that, but I won't hold my breath.
I'm really tired of nothing but extremists in one direction or another in the white house.
I'd love to have another centrist, but this guy won't be it. Just like the last guy wasn't.

(05-17-2009 06:20 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-17-2009 01:18 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(05-17-2009 11:04 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Huntsman being named Ambassador does nothing for any of you? I think that's a pretty gutsy move and a good one at that.

So what that Huntsman was worked with the Chinese on Trade Relations during Bush 41's Administration. Obama is just trying to politically neutralize a successful Republican Governor.

+1
It does nothing to make Obama more attractive to me.

Thats not surprising since I don't think there is anything Obama could do to make him more attractive to you.

(05-17-2009 07:35 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(05-17-2009 06:20 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-17-2009 01:18 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(05-17-2009 11:04 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Huntsman being named Ambassador does nothing for any of you? I think that's a pretty gutsy move and a good one at that.

So what that Huntsman was worked with the Chinese on Trade Relations during Bush 41's Administration. Obama is just trying to politically neutralize a successful Republican Governor.

+1
It does nothing to make Obama more attractive to me.

Thats not surprising since I don't think there is anything Obama could do to make him more attractive to you.

And there's nothing he could do that would get your nose out of his jock.

He could give up on his failing leftist agenda and become an American capitalist conservative.

(05-17-2009 08:24 PM)Paul M Wrote:  He could give up on his failing leftist agenda and become an American capitalist conservative.

That would make him more attractive to me.

(05-17-2009 07:04 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  .........First the decision on detainees from Guatanamo.

This was a no brainer. Campaigning is one thing but now that it's his responsibility he's trying to show us he's not really as dumb as we think he is.

(05-17-2009 08:34 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-17-2009 08:24 PM)Paul M Wrote:  He could give up on his failing leftist agenda and become an American capitalist conservative.

That would make him more attractive to me.

And now for Robert to call you a liar... 3...2....1

(05-17-2009 08:34 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-17-2009 08:24 PM)Paul M Wrote:  He could give up on his failing leftist agenda and become an American capitalist conservative.

That would make him more attractive to me.

Well, I guess that would be true but if we are basing this on REALITY, that isn't going to happen.

(05-17-2009 08:47 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(05-17-2009 07:04 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  .........First the decision on detainees from Guatanamo.

This was a no brainer. Campaigning is one thing but now that it's his responsibility he's trying to show us he's not really as dumb as we think he is.

As I mentioned months ago, now that he's in office he has to do what's actually practical. So not every far-left idea is going to work, and some of the things the righties were most worried about aren't gonna happen. I'm hoping that will continue. Although I didn't like Bush's policies, I don't want the pendulum to swing too far the other way, especially with the Republicans divided and less able to counter the worst ideas.

I think reality has hit. Its nice to campaign that your going to shut down Guantanamo and try them in real courts, but then you start running the country and no one wants these guys tried in their home town. Not the mayor of DC, not the mayor of Alexandria, VA, not the mayor of NY, not the mayor of Toledo, Kansas wants these guys. What if the Judge orders them freed, then you have a terrorist running free in your home town. Huntsman was qualified and it keeps him quiet and shuts up the Sean Hannity's of the world for about 30 seconds.

(05-18-2009 03:40 PM)EastStang Wrote:  I think reality has hit. Its nice to campaign that your going to shut down Guantanamo and try them in real courts, but then you start running the country and no one wants these guys tried in their home town. Not the mayor of DC, not the mayor of Alexandria, VA, not the mayor of NY, not the mayor of Toledo, Kansas wants these guys. What if the Judge orders them freed, then you have a terrorist running free in your home town. Huntsman was qualified and it keeps him quiet and shuts up the Sean Hannity's of the world for about 30 seconds.

Had Obama given a minute of intelligent thought and consultation with competent advisers, he would have never announced that he would close Gitmo and suspend the Military Commissions in the first place

You can't try the Gitmo Terrorists in US District Courts since the 6th Amendment would require disclosure of classified sources and methods.
The CIA screamed bloody murder about this. They aren't having thir Agents testify Court. Plus you have the Motion to Supress Statements filed by the Defense where they try to throw out everything as "torture testimony."

Since January 2009, notice how many terrorists just die by Predator Strikes?

Or do they really die? Could some have been captured alive and are now in the custody of someone like the Jordanians or Egyptians who think that electrodes on your testicles is just "warming up"??

Obama didn't cancel the policy of rendition when he had the chance.