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If ACC expands by 4, who would you take?
Now that it appears the B10 will take a few BE teams, who you you want?
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RE: If ACC expands by 4, who would you take?
(04-28-2010 08:00 AM)Atlanta Bull Wrote:  Now that it appears the B10 will take a few BE teams, who you you want?

Connecticut, Syracuse, Pitt, West Va, Louisville, Bryn Mawr in that order.
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RE: If ACC expands by 4, who would you take?
UConn, Syracuse, Pitt & WVU get my vote. Of course, VT may leave for the SEC, then I'd take mmmm ECU...
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RE: If ACC expands by 4, who would you take?
(04-28-2010 01:54 PM)westwolf Wrote:  
(04-28-2010 08:00 AM)Atlanta Bull Wrote:  Now that it appears the B10 will take a few BE teams, who you you want?

Connecticut, Syracuse, Pitt, West Va, Louisville, Bryn Mawr in that order.

Bryn Mawr might have play better football than some of the current ACC teams

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RE: If ACC expands by 4, who would you take?
1. UofL
2. Louisville
3. The Ville
4. Cardinals

But really, I think the most sense makes UConn, WVU, Pitt and USF/Louisville. That's assuming Rutgers and Cuse go to the Big Ten.
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RE: If ACC expands by 4, who would you take?
1. Notre Dame
2. Pittsburgh
3. Syracuse
4. Rutgers

Now obviously, the Big Ten would probably wind up with one of those four, so continuing onward . . .

5. Connecticut
6. West Virginia
7. Louisville
8. Cincinnati
9. South Florida

South Florida moves up to #1 if the ACC loses Florida State and Miami.
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RE: If ACC expands by 4, who would you take?
1. Notre Dame
2. Penn State
3. Georgia
4. Florida
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RE: If ACC expands by 4, who would you take?
I am suprised the ACC isn't thinking of grabbing the 4 headed for the Pac16.
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RE: If ACC expands by 4, who would you take?
Big Ten decides on 14 instead of 16 due to rivalries. If they had gone to 16 lots of traditional rivalries would be lost. 14 works for them, keeps most all rivalries alive and adds 2 Eastern Markets with population base to feed BTNetwork. Also makes Penn St happy.

*Maryland to BTen (along with Rutgers) for market/BTN
*SEC to 14. Takes Texas A&M 1st. Then will take eastern team to keep divisional balance the same,
*One of (N.C. St, Clemson, Florida St.) My best guess would be Clemson for rival with SC. They'd like NCSU for the market, but they aren't leaving their NC peers.

That leaves the ACC at 10 teams. Your options are:

A) stay at 10 (with BC on an island) and play a 9 game round-robin schedule, drop the champ game (loss of $$ and exposure). This also would reduce TV contract, but be split less ways. Also if all other major conferences go to 14, ACC would be "left behind" kind of like the BigEast is now.

B) Drop BC back to the BE and have the above scenario with 9 teams instead of 10. (aka, even less money, less exposure, less product, etc.)

C) Pick up 2 teams and go to 12. Keep champ game. But still be 2 teams behind the BigTen and SEC who now sit at 14. At this point you'd have to pick and choose which BE teams to take (Pitt/Cuse would be my guess) and then worry about how to do the divisions again.

D) Pick up 4 strongest teams from the Big East. WVU, Pitt, Syracuse, UConn. Rework divisions into ATLANTIC: old BE football conference division and COASTAL: traditional ACC division. You get a several things here. 1) A stable 14 team conference, competitive with BT and SEC. 2) Increased TV contract/revenue/amount of game product to put on TV 3) The stongest Basketball league in the country 4) addition of solid football teams to the league helping national prominence. 5) Academic additions 6) Actual divisions you can name without looking them up 7) your old ACC round-robin schedule back, all while having the benefits of a "super-conference" structure. 8) major build-in rivalries for both divisions ... hint: rivalries sell tickets, raise revenues, and oh yea, makes TV pick up your games ... all equaling increased TV contract revenue.

Keep your current divisional round-robin and protected rival cross-over like the current ACC format, SEC format and soon to be implemented BigTen format will do as well.

See pic below for divisions. The same number in the opposite divisions will be your protected rival played annually.

In a 9 game schedule (which is apparently all the rage right now):
You'll play 6 division games (3 home, 3 away) annually
1 protected cross-over game (annually)
2 opposite division games (1 home, 1 away) Rotate through all 6 schools before return trips are made ... so you'll have home and away with each school in a 6 year period. [note: if you try this format with 16 teams, you would have 7 divisional games, 1 protected rival game, and then that leaves 1 slot for each opposite division team to fill. With 7 teams left to play, and playing one of them every season it will take you 14 years to play all the opposite division teams home and away. Not good. And for those who say drop the protected rivalry games ... what about UVA/VT. etc. The SEC won't drop thier protected rivalries. Nor will the BigTen. This is why I see 14 team divisions instead of 16.

But man, oh, man ... wouldn't a conference with divisions that have so many rivalries be great? BC, UConn, Cuse, Pitt, WVU, VT, Miami in one division and UVA, UNC, Duke, NC State, Wake, GT, Fla St in the other. Talk about the best basketball conference ever. Football ... not to shabby either. Easily one of the top BCS conferences. I think on par with what the BigTen and PAC-14 would be. The SEC will probably always rule CFB, but this ACC would be something special.

Both Divisions get a Florida team also guaranteeing playing in the state at least once every other year, which is big for recruiting kids from that state. IMO, I think this is where we are heading. But I would love to see this ACC.
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Oh, and BBall ... think round-robin again. 20 conference games. You get your division round-robin (12). Your protected rivalry home and away (2) (check out some of those games ... UConn/UNC, Syracuse/Wake, Pitt/NC State, etc.... and then rest of opposite div.(6)- 3 home/3 away, rotating annually. Man this would be a major, major bball league. Did someone say round-robin ACC basketball? Yes, that's what I said. ACC Coastal Division ... happy again.
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RE: If ACC expands by 4, who would you take?
Pitt
WVU
U.Conn
Louisville

Fan chatter is fun but no ACC school will join the SEC & Maryland as an ACC founder wont go to the B-10. The ACC is to college basketball what the SEC is to college football. No one's leaving...0.0% chance of it happening. They may talk or let the talk go on around them. But there's just no reason for it in the minds of the ACC presidents.

The Big 10 can have 'Cuse, Rutgers, Cincy and Iowa State.
Notre Dame and the Big 12 are already talking, so TCU & BYU seem logical there as well.
The SEC will be getting Texas A&M any time now. They talked before about a Carolina school...the easiest one to get and actually the best fit would be East Carolina. Then look for Missouri and Oklahoma or Tulsa (all have seen interest from the SEC before).
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RE: If ACC expands by 4, who would you take?
It's a little bit of dreaming inspired by Chip Brown's BS article the other week, but I'd take:

Texas
Notre Dame
UConn
Syracuse

more realistically ... and hoping that the SEC and Big 10 don't raid the ACC ... and assuming the SEC gets WVU and the Big 10 gets Notre Dame and Missouri and takes Syracuse and Rutgers for their crack at the NYC market then I'd take in this order:

Pitt
UConn
South Florida
??? Louisville - they sure sucked the other night against FIU but BB is good.
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RE: If ACC expands by 4, who would you take?
(06-12-2010 08:44 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  South Florida moves up to #1 if the ACC loses Florida State and Miami.
It's hard to envision a scenario where that happens.
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RE: If ACC expands by 4, who would you take?
With Cuse and Pitt already in, my rankings would be (based on continual poaching from the BE): WV and UConn. Cincy and Rutgers are pretty much tied for 3rd, with a slight nod to Cincy. I would take Notre Dame if they would throw in FB, but that's never gonna happen. I think all the Texas stuff is just absurd, and the ACC isn't getting any SEC teams.
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