(06-04-2010 06:13 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(06-03-2010 10:51 PM)WacoBearcat Wrote:  

(06-03-2010 10:42 PM)TCUFrogAB Wrote:  

(06-03-2010 07:45 PM)zibby Wrote:  Texas' Rivals.com site is reporting: Linky

Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Colorado joining with them forming a division with Arizona and Arizona State while the original "Pac-8" comprises the other division.

According to the site, the author was a newspaper reporter in Dallas for ten years, so this has more credibility than the typical Internet site report.

I'd be surprised if it happened. Any Pac-10 school has veto power and it just doesn't sound like the kind of thing Stanford would want to be a part of - supposedly they vetoed an attempt in the '90s to add just Texas and A&M. Would they agree to be associated with the Oklahoma schools and Texas Tech?

I'm also surprised they would choose Texas Tech over Utah. Texas Tech doesn't really add anything while Salt Lake City is the #31 TV market.

Sometimes it is not about TV markets but tradition, rivalries, logistics, and connections. Utah and BYU were on the table; however, both have agreed to stay in the MWC as we will more than likely become a AQ conference after next season. If TV markets were key, OU, OSU, and TT would not even be in the picture. Once TV markets rule and become top priority, college sports will be officially dead.

So Utah and BYU turned the Pac 10 down to remain in the Mountain West ?

Exactly.

Becoming a "BCS" Conf does not mean one is swimming with $$$$$ (i.e. see the CASH differences between the Big Ten/SEC compared to the Big East).

Even if MWC was going to be "added" as an Automatic Qualifier Conf...both of those schools would JUMP at the much, much, MUCH richer (especially in the expanded version and new TV deals) Pac-10.

It's the same reason why most Big East Football programs (all members of a BCS Conf) are working backroom deals to JUMP to another (bigger, richer) BCS Conf if openings pop up.

once again more speculation and assumption on your part about these back room deals.

in your mind uconn, syr, rutger, pitt, wv all leave and the ville, sf, cinci are left out and they become independents.............would this bring a big smirk to your snout????????

aint happenin beast is here to stay and maybe when nd goes to the big tin ucf gets invited.................

(06-04-2010 10:34 PM)BullsFanatic Wrote:  Good read Matt. I agree that all of these rumors, though certainly widespread, seem to lack a serious concrete source at this time. Most everything is prefaced with "What we've heard".

As Phil Steele was saying on Rivals Radio earlier today, everyone was certain that the NCAA Tournament was going from 65 teams to 96 teams. It was widely reported to be all but a done deal. We then saw a much smaller expansion, from 65 to 68.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Pac 10 is toying with the idea of 16 teams, and that the Big 12 is in disarray. However, I'm not sold yet on the certainty that this will happen. You bring up a lot of good points as to why this may not happen.

The difference between this and other rumors is that ADs are actually commenting on this. Colorado, Iowa State and California's ADs and chancellors are commenting on it, people have talked to the ADs of the six schools and they have commented on it and virtually confirmed it, Missouri and Nebraska have basically confirmed it, with Missouri saying they are only loyal to themselves, and the Pac-10 commissioner never completely denied it. The people involved are virtually confirming this, which makes it very interesting.

Also of note, the Big Ten is targeting Texas:

In addition, The Associated Press confirmed on Friday that the Big Ten is interested in pursuing Texas, the richest, most influential Big 12 school and acknowledged lynchpin of the entire league.

Ohio State president Gordon Gee told Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany in an April 20 e-mail that Gee had spoken with [Texas President Bill] Powers. Gee said Powers would welcome a call.

Powers was also scheduled to be at Friday's news conference with Beebe, but was not.

Look at the video in this article. These talks are very real:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5252276

I know I have said this a billion times in this thread, but the Big East needs to keep an eye on this, and be ready to jump on the Big 12 leftovers if it comes to that.

All I'm saying is this, if you go to as massive as an expansion as the PAC-10 or Big Ten are considering, particularly when these conferences are dealing from a position of strength, you better have all parties involved aware of all the parameters of expansion.

You better have in place that all parties agree to regarding revenue sharing even if its equal or not, a television contract completely negotiated and scheduling guidelines in place to handle 16 teams. No official invites or acceptances get done without those agreements.

MWC, when formed, already knew it could take a version of the TV contract being offered to the WAC-16, scaled down $$$ wise for 8 teams. It wouldn't have been formed if those teams knew they couldn't get good TV deal without staying with the WAC. Pretty sure the Big 12 bid its rights out before actually incorporating, but I don't know if they ever agreed to their revenue sharing models until after they were put together, and thats could be why the conference is the mess it is.