(03-02-2011 09:37 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  TAMU/VT to SEC

I hope VT never leaves the ACC. Life is better interacting with alumni from boarder states or state rivals : UVA UNC Duke NCST Wake and UMD.

(03-03-2011 12:10 AM)RUfan03 Wrote:  With Temple's fan base they should use the Villanova stadium and let Nova use the Linc.

That's a great idea !

If Seton Hall drops down a level, I think you will see ECU, UCF and Houston added to offset the Nova addition. ECU and UCf will bring a larger fan base which is attractive when looking for new bowl tie in's.

What's this talk of Seton Hall dropping? That would be about the dumbest thing a non-football school could do. Look at St. John's, they were a basketball coach away from a top tournament seeding.

Villanova will join and be BC part two. The Big East then can sit and evaluate the landscape. What's the rush I ask, what's the rush? Nobody's banging down UCF, Houston, or SMU's door anyway.

(03-03-2011 12:27 PM)esayem Wrote:  What's this talk of Seton Hall dropping?

I think that's a result of the financial issues being dealt with at Seton Hall. It could force them to downgrade their program, if the monetary bleeding doesn't reverse itself in the near future. But it's not as desperate a situation as some would like to believe...

Haters.

Sure would fix Nova's stadium problems, The Big East could tell Temple they are in if they can negotiate a lease for Nova at the stadium.

(03-03-2011 12:10 AM)RUfan03 Wrote:  Temple would only have a shot if Nova can't come up with the money and the BE passed on UCF, ECU, Houston and SMU. Temple had its chance and blew it. To get back in the Big East they will have to continue winning and develop a fan base. I think the latter is the more difficult task and we have to see how well they continue winning without Golden at the helm. With Temple's fan base they should use the Villanova stadium and let Nova use the Linc.

I tend to agree that C-USA full membership would be a better conference for Temple then the A-10/MAC combination but travel to Texas points could be an issue.

It should be noted that CUSA is ahead of the A-10 in basketball this year, seems Temple would have better competition in bball as well (and could still play the Big 5).

(03-04-2011 03:16 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(03-03-2011 12:10 AM)RUfan03 Wrote:  Temple would only have a shot if Nova can't come up with the money and the BE passed on UCF, ECU, Houston and SMU. Temple had its chance and blew it. To get back in the Big East they will have to continue winning and develop a fan base. I think the latter is the more difficult task and we have to see how well they continue winning without Golden at the helm. With Temple's fan base they should use the Villanova stadium and let Nova use the Linc.

I tend to agree that C-USA full membership would be a better conference for Temple then the A-10/MAC combination but travel to Texas points could be an issue.

It should be noted that CUSA is ahead of the A-10 in basketball this year, seems Temple would have better competition in bball as well (and could still play the Big 5).

The A10 is very top heavy. The conference has needed to trim the fat (LaSalle and Fordham) for a while. Dayton is very down. SLU had their two best players suspended for the season. Richmond is the 3rd best team and they're down. St. Joe's has had all kinds of issues. Rhode Island is pretty consistent, but never really more than decent. Duquesne and GW are both improving significantly. CUSA may have fewer bad teams, but the A10 still has two better teams in Xavier and Temple.

(03-04-2011 03:23 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(03-04-2011 03:16 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(03-03-2011 12:10 AM)RUfan03 Wrote:  Temple would only have a shot if Nova can't come up with the money and the BE passed on UCF, ECU, Houston and SMU. Temple had its chance and blew it. To get back in the Big East they will have to continue winning and develop a fan base. I think the latter is the more difficult task and we have to see how well they continue winning without Golden at the helm. With Temple's fan base they should use the Villanova stadium and let Nova use the Linc.

I tend to agree that C-USA full membership would be a better conference for Temple then the A-10/MAC combination but travel to Texas points could be an issue.

It should be noted that CUSA is ahead of the A-10 in basketball this year, seems Temple would have better competition in bball as well (and could still play the Big 5).

The A10 is very top heavy. The conference has needed to trim the fat (LaSalle and Fordham) for a while. Dayton is very down. SLU had their two best players suspended for the season. Richmond is the 3rd best team and they're down. St. Joe's has had all kinds of issues. Rhode Island is pretty consistent, but never really more than decent. Duquesne and GW are both improving significantly. CUSA may have fewer bad teams, but the A10 still has two better teams in Xavier and Temple.

But two teams dont make a conference when you have, what, 14? CUSA has less teams and more depth then the A-10. Its like I say joke with ACC fans about being a two horse race every year. They dont want to admit it, but the rest of the ACC is average at best.

The strength of the conference isnt necessarily at the top, its how bad is your bottom, because your top teams have a bunch of gimme games that make them less valuable. I'd take a battle tested team winning close games over a team blowing people out every day of the week in a tourney format.

(03-04-2011 04:14 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  But two teams dont make a conference when you have, what, 14? CUSA has less teams and more depth then the A-10. Its like I say joke with ACC fans about being a two horse race every year. They dont want to admit it, but the rest of the ACC is average at best.

Average at best, yet Maryland won a title within the last decade and Georgia Tech made a finals appearance. Yep, sounds pretty average. Virginia, NC State, and Wake Forest are not where they need to be and that's why the ACC isn't as good as in the past. Average? Haha, no.

(03-04-2011 04:14 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  Its like I say joke with ACC fans about being a two horse race every year. They dont want to admit it, but the rest of the ACC is average at best.

Take out UNC and Duke and the ACC would still compare favorably to every other BCS conference except the Big East; and CUSA, A10, WCC etc. aren't even in the discussion. Average would be 150-175th best teams in the NCAA. The ACC is still elite among the elite.

(03-04-2011 04:14 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(03-04-2011 03:23 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(03-04-2011 03:16 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(03-03-2011 12:10 AM)RUfan03 Wrote:  Temple would only have a shot if Nova can't come up with the money and the BE passed on UCF, ECU, Houston and SMU. Temple had its chance and blew it. To get back in the Big East they will have to continue winning and develop a fan base. I think the latter is the more difficult task and we have to see how well they continue winning without Golden at the helm. With Temple's fan base they should use the Villanova stadium and let Nova use the Linc.

I tend to agree that C-USA full membership would be a better conference for Temple then the A-10/MAC combination but travel to Texas points could be an issue.

It should be noted that CUSA is ahead of the A-10 in basketball this year, seems Temple would have better competition in bball as well (and could still play the Big 5).

The A10 is very top heavy. The conference has needed to trim the fat (LaSalle and Fordham) for a while. Dayton is very down. SLU had their two best players suspended for the season. Richmond is the 3rd best team and they're down. St. Joe's has had all kinds of issues. Rhode Island is pretty consistent, but never really more than decent. Duquesne and GW are both improving significantly. CUSA may have fewer bad teams, but the A10 still has two better teams in Xavier and Temple.

But two teams dont make a conference when you have, what, 14? CUSA has less teams and more depth then the A-10. Its like I say joke with ACC fans about being a two horse race every year. They dont want to admit it, but the rest of the ACC is average at best.

The strength of the conference isnt necessarily at the top, its how bad is your bottom, because your top teams have a bunch of gimme games that make them less valuable. I'd take a battle tested team winning close games over a team blowing people out every day of the week in a tourney format.

Like I said, at the very least, Fordham and LaSalle should've been thrown out by now. CUSA has a bunch of solid, yet unspectacular teams. It's really only Memphis that has done anything nationally. UAB was good a few years ago.

(03-02-2011 04:33 PM)animus Wrote:  Chris... where did you see that at... Adding both makes no logical sense.

I will do you one better. Adding Temple ONLY makes sense if you also add Villanova.

What does Kentucky or the Washington Generals have to do with Temple or the Big East?

Just above average if you don't count the 15 and 16 seeds in the NCAA...

I am a fan of both Temple and Nova .... only way to bring the Philly market... and it can be broughten

(03-06-2011 07:39 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  What does Kentucky or the Washington Generals have to do with Temple or the Big East?

That is my signature line

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com...east-move/

Seems a little late in the game to me for this to come out.

(03-07-2011 11:42 AM)TimbotheKnight Wrote:  http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com...east-move/

Seems a little late in the game to me for this to come out.

Who cares what Pitt thinks? If they had their way they wouldn't be in the Big East. They have a complex about being Penn State's little brother.

Well...there's always Citizen's Bank. That's about 43,000 seats. Of course, not all of those seats are optimal for football. I'd guess they wouldn't use the left field seats as they're too far and too low to see a football game from (at least with most baseball-to-football conversions). So that probably leaves somewhere around 38-39,000 seats.

Of course, a good chunk of (important) baseball games run through early football season and well into late October if the Phillies are in the playoffs. So trying to get the scheduling right with them would be a headache considering the erratic nature of baseball scheduling (could be at any time of the week, home stretches last anywhere from 5 days to almost 2 weeks.).

Franklin Field might be an interesting solution. It seats 50,000+. There are some drawbacks. Besides scheduling around Penn, the thing is older than sand. The last major renovations were in 1996. It could still work.

Temple and Lincoln Financial Field are married through 2018. Could 'Nova get their own deal and play alternate weekends? Posssible.

I don't understand WHY the BE did not make stipulations for Nova like one they MUST play in a stadium that seats no less than 35K. I don't like the fact that every non-BCS school in the country knows that if they don't have a stadium that seats a certain number then they don't have a snow ball chance in hell getting admittance to a BCS conference, but the Big East is going to over look this for Nova which I disagree with. I think they should be allowed into the conference as a member, but if they can not play in a stadium that meets requirements then maybe they should play as an Independent until they can provide a suitable stadium that does meet requirements. I don't like one bit, and I don't blame Pittsburgh displeasure into this matter.