A poster noted that Navy could drop Akron or Delaware from their upcoming schedules to play a BE member. It is doubtful they would drop UD as Delaware games are amongst their highest attendence Navy games since UD brings enough fans to make the games sellouts just about each time the teams play. Maybe you're right about Akron though as I doubt that is a high attendence game for Navy.....

Jackson1011 Wrote:-- Navy's schedule looks to be complete up to 2008.......although Navy does play three BE teams in 2007 (Pitt, Uconn and Rutgers) so if the plan is 4 BE games a yr all Navy would have to do is drop an Akron or Delaware

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-- Although I know the army page hasn't been updated in a while....but....I would bet Army is not close to having there future schedules filled out because they just became an Indy again...in fact this deal with the BE may help Army fill in the scheduling slots

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Jackson.. I'm waiting for Army to announce its future schedules so I can update their section...

Would A-10 take Memph & EC, let UCF join another BB conf. Get Temple back from MAC. Pay the 4 schools 1 million yr to play FB in B-E. Championship game & another bowl bid would cover 4 million. All 4 schools would make more money than C-USA pays. [also collect A-10 money] MT afforded Mia 9 million to stay, same theory but in reverse.

Wilkie01 Wrote:Jackson, I like Army and Navy but they would hurt the conference's power rating! If you add Army or Navy, well, we should have just kept Temple.

It's similar to the recent deal the MAC and Big Ten cut with each other. They play each other for several years to even out scheduling. I think the Big East mentioned something recently about wanting to cut a deal like that. I could see us cutting a deal with the Big 12 or SEC to even out the scheduling.

templefootballfan Wrote:Would A-10 take Memph & EC, let UCF join another BB conf. Get Temple back from MAC. Pay the 4 schools 1 million yr to play FB in B-E. Championship game & another bowl bid would cover 4 million. All 4 schools would make more money than C-USA pays. [also collect A-10 money] MT afforded Mia 9 million to stay, same theory but in reverse.

I'm willing to bet the A-10 would take Memphis, but I also heard rumors 2 years ago that the A-10 was willing to take East Carolina sports. It would have made sense, giving Charlotte a natural traveling partner and geographical rival.

I am a new poster, and was wondering....

Would the BE add Miami U? I have heard some rumblings, and wondering what you guys, as fans or etc. would think of that?

Miami is a great school academically(top 25 public universities, public Ivy.) It has a rather good football program, is starting to refurbish/renovate its athletic facilities. Basketball and all other sports aren't too bad either. Miami also has garnered fame as the Cradle of Coaches. In fact I think a few BE teams have had coaches that started or coached at MU at one point or another.

So, tell me what ya think?(UC included. )

The Big East is not adding teams. Remember, you need 75% of the schools (12 of 16) to expand further and the votes just aren't there.

Hoya
If the football schools decide that they need that 9th team to balance their schedules and the nonfootball members refuse to add that school for football only,i think you will then see the split sooner than the 2010 date most predict.
This is a problem with having a mixed league,the interests between the football playing members and those that dont are NOT the same,things have changed since the BE was first formed when basketball was a bigger money maker than footballl, in this day and age football is the big money maker for college athletics.Notice who the big players in basketball in the last few years have been in the BE:
UConn,Syracuse,Pitt even WV last year. What has happened to Georgetown,St John's,Villanova that were powerhouses in the 80's and 90's? They cant match the money of the football schools.

Cat's_Claw Wrote:

Wilkie01 Wrote:Jackson, I like Army and Navy but they would hurt the conference's power rating! If you add Army or Navy, well, we should have just kept Temple.

It's similar to the recent deal the MAC and Big Ten cut with each other. They play each other for several years to even out scheduling. I think the Big East mentioned something recently about wanting to cut a deal like that. I could see us cutting a deal with the Big 12 or SEC to even out the scheduling.

Claw, I wasn't familiar with a MAC/Big Ten scheduling alliance. What have they agreed upon?

I would be surprised if the Big Ten agreed to 1-for-1 series, but if so, congrats to the MAC.

I dont believe they are 1-1's but they do get some home games from the likes of Indiana,NW etc NOT the big boys.
As for the SEC cutting a similar deal with BE or anyoneelse i highly doubt it, the SEC will fill the 12th game schedules with nonBCS teams that will visit with no returns or add 1AA
Florida just signed FIU and FAU for three or four visits with no returns.

Correction... The MAC/B11 worked out their second deal. There is already an acting deal for each MAC team, and B11 team to play at least one team from the other conference every year. They are making plans for the 12th game. Miami actually has a home game(according to my info) from Ohio State, but decided to play it in the Shoe, because you make more from 100,000 people, than from 30,000.

I'd love to see a deal between the MAC and the BE. The MAC might also be working on a deal with the Big 12. Maybe the MAC is moving up in the world. Hopefully past CUSA. (And Marshall.)

CountryRedHawk Wrote:Correction... The MAC/B11 worked out their second deal. There is already an acting deal for each MAC team, and B11 team to play at least one team from the other conference every year. They are making plans for the 12th game. Miami actually has a home game(according to my info) from Ohio State, but decided to play it in the Shoe, because you make more from 100,000 people, than from 30,000.

I'd love to see a deal between the MAC and the BE. The MAC might also be working on a deal with the Big 12. Maybe the MAC is moving up in the world. Hopefully past CUSA. (And Marshall.)

Not a bad job at all by Rick Chryst and the MAC!

MemTGRS Wrote:

Cat's_Claw Wrote:

Wilkie01 Wrote:Jackson, I like Army and Navy but they would hurt the conference's power rating! If you add Army or Navy, well, we should have just kept Temple.

It's similar to the recent deal the MAC and Big Ten cut with each other. They play each other for several years to even out scheduling. I think the Big East mentioned something recently about wanting to cut a deal like that. I could see us cutting a deal with the Big 12 or SEC to even out the scheduling.

Claw, I wasn't familiar with a MAC/Big Ten scheduling alliance. What have they agreed upon?

I would be surprised if the Big Ten agreed to 1-for-1 series, but if so, congrats to the MAC.

I'm not exactly sure, you would have to ask the MAC board, but I think that the majority of the games are at Big Ten buildings with the rest being at MAC buildings and that everybody in the MAC will play a Big Ten school at least once or twice. As mentioned, it's the MAC's second deal cut with the Big Ten.

Cubanbull Wrote:I dont believe they are 1-1's but they do get some home games from the likes of Indiana,NW etc NOT the big boys.
As for the SEC cutting a similar deal with BE or anyoneelse i highly doubt it, the SEC will fill the 12th game schedules with nonBCS teams that will visit with no returns or add 1AA
Florida just signed FIU and FAU for three or four visits with no returns.

Thanks. Indeed, I only see the SEC cutting deals that 100% benefit them. No way do they want to help someone else out ½%, much less 50-50.

Cat's_Claw Wrote:

MemTGRS Wrote:

Cat's_Claw Wrote:

Wilkie01 Wrote:Jackson, I like Army and Navy but they would hurt the conference's power rating! If you add Army or Navy, well, we should have just kept Temple.

It's similar to the recent deal the MAC and Big Ten cut with each other. They play each other for several years to even out scheduling. I think the Big East mentioned something recently about wanting to cut a deal like that. I could see us cutting a deal with the Big 12 or SEC to even out the scheduling.

Claw, I wasn't familiar with a MAC/Big Ten scheduling alliance. What have they agreed upon?

I would be surprised if the Big Ten agreed to 1-for-1 series, but if so, congrats to the MAC.

I'm not exactly sure, you would have to ask the MAC board, but I think that the majority of the games are at Big Ten buildings with the rest being at MAC buildings and that everybody in the MAC will play a Big Ten school at least once or twice. As mentioned, it's the MAC's second deal cut with the Big Ten.

Muchas gracias. I wonder if Temple will be able to capitalize on that too, or if it is only for the full members of the MAC.

CountryRedHawk Wrote:I am a new poster, and was wondering....

Would the BE add Miami U? I have heard some rumblings, and wondering what you guys, as fans or etc. would think of that?

Miami is a great school academically(top 25 public universities, public Ivy.) It has a rather good football program, is starting to refurbish/renovate its athletic facilities. Basketball and all other sports aren't too bad either. Miami also has garnered fame as the Cradle of Coaches. In fact I think a few BE teams have had coaches that started or coached at MU at one point or another.

So, tell me what ya think?(UC included. )

lol! I don't think the Big East would add Miami for a couple of reasons. One, they don't bring a new market, Cincinnati already covers the markets that Miami would bring. Also, it could cut into Cincinnati's recruiting. That wouldn't be a big deal if Miami brought a huge market, but since they don't bring a market it could water down a couple of teams without giving back much in return as far as having two programs in one market. Miami has a power football programs and a good basketball program so they have an all-around strong athletic program, they just don't fit into the Big East because Cincinnati is already there.

I think Miami-Ohio could join. anything is possible. But it will not happen until 2010 and the split happens. However, with that said, I think Miami-Ohio bringd little to the table as it is to near UC.

Cubanbull Wrote:Hoya
If the football schools decide that they need that 9th team to balance their schedules and the nonfootball members refuse to add that school for football only,i think you will then see the split sooner than the 2010 date most predict.
This is a problem with having a mixed league,the interests between the football playing members and those that dont are NOT the same,things have changed since the BE was first formed when basketball was a bigger money maker than footballl, in this day and age football is the big money maker for college athletics.Notice who the big players in basketball in the last few years have been in the BE:
UConn,Syracuse,Pitt even WV last year. What has happened to Georgetown,St John's,Villanova that were powerhouses in the 80's and 90's? They cant match the money of the football schools.

I concur with you, Cuban Bull.

Miami would bring an instant rivalry game with Cincy to the league which would be a plus as would their academic reputation. Having lived in Ohio for the past two years, Miami definitely has a good reputation.

I think in the end the posts about being in the same market and watering down Cincy will stop any chance of Miami joining the Big East. For Cincy to step up, they need to establish themselves as the clear #2 program in the state. The BE should help them pull away from Miami, Toledo, Bowling Green ect. Having Miami in the league would really hurt Cincy. Keep the rivalry game as one of the ooc games.

SUinOh...

Miami and UC are rivals. UC's stadium is named for a student who died after being injured playing Miami. Look up the Battle for the Victory Bell. The original one, I believe.

As for media markets, how does Dayton sound? Miami is trying to hype it up in Dayton. There is no other D-1a program there. I've also heard the Big 11 might start a hockey program, and might invite Miami as the 12th team(even league) as a hockey only member. I dunno which I'd rather.... Big 10 or Big East.

Could they take Miami as a football only member?