Just google Uconn Acc and there are countless stories about how badly UConn is trying to get into the ACC.

Obviously, I can't blame them.

But it seems that the lack of invitation is more about disinterest in continued expansion, and not about lack of athletic/academic/geographic fit.

Here's the rub: As I read these articles, I'm not sure that UConn fills any gap the ACC has, beyond geographical. We have already have great basketball teams.

If expansion/realignment were about all sports conferences with academic "fit" UConn would be a top candidate for the ACC (except for the lawsuit).
But expansion is about football and UConn does not put enough fannies in the seats to be a serious candidate for a conference like the ACC that needs to increase it's average attendance.

I saw a video on Syracusefan.com, where Floyd Little said that Uconn and Rutgers have already turned in their application to the acc and that the BE should just go by the wayside, or something to that affect. I though that was rather harsh for him to say about the BE. But then again, he never played in the BE. Still pretty harsh to say that. Uconn and Rutgers, or WV would make the acc move much more acceptable to me.

I believe we've got a great new president in Herbst who is smart, decisive and well-connected. We're in great shape leadership-wise through this whole episode.

That said, I believe our PR folks should lay low for a while - our case has been excellently stated and nothing else needs to be added. Now, we wait.

Besides, this would prevent Pete Thamel from having a coronary in the middle of the New York Times newsroom over us. And yes, I'm being serious about that...

(09-26-2011 12:14 PM)epark88 Wrote:  I believe we've got a great new president in Herbst who is smart, decisive and well-connected. We're in great shape leadership-wise through this whole episode.

That said, I believe our PR folks should lay low for a while - our case has been excellently stated and nothing else needs to be added. Now, we wait.

Besides, this would prevent Pete Thamel from having a coronary in the middle of the New York Times newsroom over us. And yes, I'm being serious about that...

Yea I agree that UConn needs to lay low. Recommit yourselves to the Big East and stay there until the ACC calls. This PR episode could make it very hard for the other schools to bring you in, in case there is a split. Good luck to UConn and hopefully we play each other again, whether as OOC or as a Conference game.

(09-26-2011 11:06 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  I saw a video on Syracusefan.com, where Floyd Little said that Uconn and Rutgers have already turned in their application to the acc and that the BE should just go by the wayside, or something to that affect. I though that was rather harsh for him to say about the BE. But then again, he never played in the BE. Still pretty harsh to say that. Uconn and Rutgers, or WV would make the acc move much more acceptable to me.

Floyd is all about the University as a whole. He knows that this move helps Syracuse academics, not just athletics.

(09-26-2011 11:06 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  I saw a video on Syracusefan.com, where Floyd Little said that Uconn and Rutgers have already turned in their application to the acc and that the BE should just go by the wayside, or something to that affect. I though that was rather harsh for him to say about the BE. But then again, he never played in the BE. Still pretty harsh to say that. Uconn and Rutgers, or WV would make the acc move much more acceptable to me.

WVU! Please that fan base is out of hand. They should have been on their best behavior this past weekend and you see the news about the assault. Don't give me crap about a rowdy few... this behavior is common down there and many fans from a lot of schools refuse to travel there. WVu should have cracked down years ago on the violence that is commonplace but what is their response? Sell beer in the stadium! Boy that will calm down the hoopie rowdies.

I use to think I want to play them year in year out but no rivalry is worth the violence that happens with that crowd base. A couple years ago one of our bball coaches got hit in the eye with a battery... luckily he did not lose his eye. Not the only incidence for sure but gives you an idea what goes on down there.

Its time for Pitt to slow it down with Eddie.

(09-26-2011 08:53 AM)XLance Wrote:  If expansion/realignment were about all sports conferences with academic "fit" UConn would be a top candidate for the ACC (except for the lawsuit).
But expansion is about football and UConn does not put enough fannies in the seats to be a serious candidate for a conference like the ACC that needs to increase it's average attendance.

The lawsuit thing is nonsense. That isn't going to prevent the ACC from extending an invitation if they so desire. Pitt was also a party to that lawsuit and that didn't stop the ACC.

If the ACC's goal is to "lock up" the northeast, UConn and Rutgers are essential. Everything between Providence and Philadelphia is either UConn or Rutgers. Syracuse (a great school with no negatives) does not deliver the tri-state area.

I wish our administration had done less in the media and more behind the scenes. Whatever happens to UConn - the Big East, going independent, or (gulp) C-USA, the school just needs to shut up, put its head down, and tweak a few things to improve itself.

(09-26-2011 08:08 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  If the ACC's goal is to "lock up" the northeast, UConn and Rutgers are essential. Everything between Providence and Philadelphia is either UConn or Rutgers. Syracuse (a great school with no negatives) does not deliver the tri-state area.

I wish our administration had done less in the media and more behind the scenes. Whatever happens to UConn - the Big East, going independent, or (gulp) C-USA, the school just needs to shut up, put its head down, and tweak a few things to improve itself.

And right on cue, Gov. Malloy opens his trap last nightand inserts his foot.

And also right on cue, the media jumps on one little phrase, 'fall back to the Big East', and runs with it. Bad, bad, BAD timing with this stuff.

The one thing that angers me in this whole ACC-Big East episode is that out of all the conniving, back-stabbing and double-dealing amongst the institutions involved...UConn emerges as the bad guy? How is that even possible?...

(09-27-2011 07:17 AM)epark88 Wrote:  

(09-26-2011 08:08 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  If the ACC's goal is to "lock up" the northeast, UConn and Rutgers are essential. Everything between Providence and Philadelphia is either UConn or Rutgers. Syracuse (a great school with no negatives) does not deliver the tri-state area.

I wish our administration had done less in the media and more behind the scenes. Whatever happens to UConn - the Big East, going independent, or (gulp) C-USA, the school just needs to shut up, put its head down, and tweak a few things to improve itself.

And right on cue, Gov. Malloy opens his trap last nightand inserts his foot.

And also right on cue, the media jumps on one little phrase, 'fall back to the Big East', and runs with it. Bad, bad, BAD timing with this stuff.

The one thing that angers me in this whole ACC-Big East episode is that out of all the conniving, back-stabbing and double-dealing amongst the institutions involved...UConn emerges as the bad guy? How is that even possible?...

Blame always falls on the whoever is in the headlines. If you don't know someone is involved, you can't blame them.

The more UConn is in the media regarding realignment, the more people assume that they're pulling the strings. Just look at the whole Texas debacle.

(09-27-2011 07:17 AM)epark88 Wrote:  

(09-26-2011 08:08 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  If the ACC's goal is to "lock up" the northeast, UConn and Rutgers are essential. Everything between Providence and Philadelphia is either UConn or Rutgers. Syracuse (a great school with no negatives) does not deliver the tri-state area.

I wish our administration had done less in the media and more behind the scenes. Whatever happens to UConn - the Big East, going independent, or (gulp) C-USA, the school just needs to shut up, put its head down, and tweak a few things to improve itself.

And right on cue, Gov. Malloy opens his trap last nightand inserts his foot.

And also right on cue, the media jumps on one little phrase, 'fall back to the Big East', and runs with it. Bad, bad, BAD timing with this stuff.

The one thing that angers me in this whole ACC-Big East episode is that out of all the conniving, back-stabbing and double-dealing amongst the institutions involved...UConn emerges as the bad guy? How is that even possible?...

I wish all governors would just keep their mouths shut. It just looks bad...

We don't need them right now. It's like how the Big East looked at ECU, UCF, etc. They're not going anywhere so why the rush to add them? There is still the possibilty for more movement. Let them wait.

if somehow uconn could get nd to join for all sports, the acc will add them immediately,if not the acc will go at its own pace and out of the headlines like the syracuse and pitt invites

1. UConn doesn't add anything to the ACC. If the Big 10 adds UConn and Syracuse, however, that's a painful blow to the ACC. If UConn and/or Rutgers are added to the ACC, it'll be to lock up the east coast.

2. Yes, we are begging WAY too hard right now. It's embarrassing.

I don't think Uconn can try too hard. They're not going to alienate or incite other schools to leave that wouldn't have left any way. I've heard it argued that WVU's Luck mouthing off trying to sell his school to the SEC or ACC caused Pitt and Cuse to leave but I think they'd have left anyway.

ECU has applied for BE membership something like 29 times. Are they trying to hard? There's no real downside to pushing your school other than keeping your name in the media while being effectively in limbo.

(09-27-2011 04:23 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  I don't think Uconn can try too hard. They're not going to alienate or incite other schools to leave that wouldn't have left any way. I've heard it argued that WVU's Luck mouthing off trying to sell his school to the SEC or ACC caused Pitt and Cuse to leave but I think they'd have left anyway.

Thats not the only reason that they left, and I never implied that that was the only reason that they left, but it certainly doesnt help. And the officials from both schools mentioned the "uncertainties and rumors coming coming out of WV."