Since the Big appel project is scrap and Toronto is in planning. The News today about Big East 2 going to El Paso is sad, SU,Uconn,RU ( 32+ hours driving). A bowl game anchored for the Big east needs to be made.


Baltimore, Indy, NYC (if Jets play for the stadium)

I think a northeastern-bowl game is a great idea. They can call it the "Freeze Your A_s Off Bowl."

Baltimore's a great locale for a bowl. They can call it the "Got Stabbed in the Parking Lot Bowl."

Bowl game in reality have never been fair to Pitt/SU in there 100 years of playing eastern Independent football. Penn State/WVU were much bigger but still faced the same issues. A northern bowl may seem funny but it will be a "boon" for SU/Pitt/Rutgers fans who can drive to the game instead of buying Airplane packages.

CUSA,Big 12,SEC,ACC,Pac 10 never have these issue because they have bowls in there regions.

Big 10 is exception cause they are made up off large state schools and larger large fan bases

ecu92 Wrote:I think a northeastern-bowl game is a great idea. They can call it the "Freeze Your A_s Off Bowl."

If they do the Big Apple Bowl in the new Meadowlands Stadium that should have a retractable roof then that would be better than the originally proposed Big Apple Bowl since there'll be parking for tailgating and there will be several mass transit options available to the city as well, including NJ Transit commuter rail, NJ transit busses, and NJ Transit light rail.

People want to go south for a bowl game. It's winter. It's cold. It's snowing. Let's go to Florida.

That's jsut the way it is. It is a reward for the players, and the fans. The fans make it a vacation.

The only way to have a "northern" bowl is for it to be in a dome. Period. it will never do well otherwise, and still won't do as well as other southern bowls.

ThunderDent Wrote:People want to go south for a bowl game. It's winter. It's cold. It's snowing. Let's go to Florida.

That's jsut the way it is. It is a reward for the players, and the fans. The fans make it a vacation.

The only way to have a "northern" bowl is for it to be in a dome. Period. it will never do well otherwise, and still won't do as well as other southern bowls.

Hypothetically speaking, a NYC bowl in a dome against a marquee opponent (like a Big Ten team) would draw well, IMHO.

Quote:The News today about Big East 2 going to El Paso is sad, SU,Uconn,RU ( 32+ hours driving).

-- I have no trouble with the BE adding the Sun bowl....it sure beats the Insight bowl in Phoenix and is a historic bowl against a BCS opponet with a nice payout....we could have done worse


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Murph1 Wrote:

ThunderDent Wrote:People want to go south for a bowl game. It's winter. It's cold. It's snowing. Let's go to Florida.

That's jsut the way it is. It is a reward for the players, and the fans. The fans make it a vacation.

The only way to have a "northern" bowl is for it to be in a dome. Period. it will never do well otherwise, and still won't do as well as other southern bowls.

Hypothetically speaking, a NYC bowl in a dome against a marquee opponent (like a Big Ten team) would draw well, IMHO.

I totally agree on this account. IF, they ever build the new NYJ stadium, and then they get the "Big Apple Bowl" it will certianly draw very well, and IMO, should have the BE conference as its anchor conference. This is kind of an exception to the rule though I think. But like I said it has to be a dome. It can't be in Philly or Baltimore in the middle of winter. People just wouldn't go. NYC is jsut a different ball of wax all together. It would most certainly do well in the dome.

The only thing the BE needs to do is make sure that IF they ever get a conference championship game (andif they do, they need to play this in this facility, if built) then they need to make sure that it doesn't have the #2 BE team going back to this same place for its bowl game, as it will be poorly attended, unless it is SU or UConn. Fans like to go somewhere different. But other than that, I think that would be a great venue, if and when it ever gets built.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the only place that would draw well for a bowl game would be NYC in the northeast.

Check out the Motor City Bowl held in Ford Field. Over the last 3 years, it has averaged 50,000 or more. Attendance has been steadily growing and last year was near the top for non-BCS Bowls.

Ford Field is a great venue. This season I believe it is the site for the Super Bowl. In preparation for this, there has been a great deal of development in down town Detroit over the last few years--new street work, bars, restaurants, a casino, etc.

Quote:brista21  Posted on Jul 13 2005, 05:49 PM

Quote: (ecu92 @ Jul 13 2005, 05:24 PM)
I think a northeastern-bowl game is a great idea. They can call it the "Freeze Your A_s Off Bowl."

If they do the Big Apple Bowl in the new Meadowlands Stadium that should have a retractable roof then that would be better than the originally proposed Big Apple Bowl since there'll be parking for tailgating and there will be several mass transit options available to the city as well, including NJ Transit commuter rail, NJ transit busses, and NJ Transit light rail.

Disagree. Tailgaiting will not be as big a deal for a northern bowl game as it is for regular season games and southern bowls.

A Big Apple Bowl game either during the late afternoon on December 31st or on January 1 in Manhatten would have been the ideal place for BE #2. The area swells beyond reckoning at that time of year and a NJ site just isn't comparable.

Silver and Bruno - two (of many) NY politicians that need to simply go away.

Cheers,
Neil

Santa Fe Falcon Wrote:Check out the Motor City Bowl held in Ford Field.  Over the last 3 years, it has averaged 50,000 or more.  Attendance has been steadily growing and last year was near the top for non-BCS Bowls.

Ford Field is a great venue.  This season I believe it is the site for the Super Bowl. In preparation for this, there has been a great deal of development in down town Detroit over the last few years--new street work, bars,  restaurants, a casino, etc.

First off the Sun Bowl is a great pick up for you guys.

Second I don't know why you aren't all over the Motor city bowl as a number 4 type bowl. Playing the MAC champ could provide a 4th bowl team with a good match up and a chance to beat a top 25 team and a champ.

I think that the BE should go after the Motor City Bowl. Great Venue, has a little bit of tradition with some of the BE members. The problem that the BE has is its location. It's isolated and is a good distance from most of the bowls. Louisville and West Virginia travel very well, but some of the other teams are going to have to pick it up. The NYC Bowl is a great idea and would give the fans of teams like Rutgers, UConn, and Syracuse a better opportunity to go to a Bowl game.

The Big East already has an agreement with the Motor if the Big 10 doesn't qualify enough teams. I'm not sure if the Big 10 has actually ever gone there. UConn went there last year and I think BC the year before. It would make sense if the Big East mad a similar deal with the Independence because I doubt the SEC and Big 12 will have enough eligible teams each year.

Just looking at the Motor City Bowl website, it looks like Northwestern was the only Big Ten representative with a lone appearance in '03 (lost to BG 28-24).

Of all the current Big East members, Louisville(1), Cincinnati(2), and Connecticut(1) have all been invited a total of four times, the most appearance by a conference outside of the MAC.

Indianapolis would be a great alternative for a Big 10 vs Big East matchup.

I would suspect that the Motor City Bowl will remain an anchor for the MAC champion though.

In my view we have to maximize contests against BCS opponents, and minimize any possibility of facing non-BCS opponents.

Of the 28 bowls last year, only 6 are intentionally set up to pit a BCS team vs a non-BCS team. Obviously, due to qualification standards, actual matchups vary.

Those six bowls:
Independence Bowl (Louisiana): Big 12's #5/#6 vs MAC ($1.2m)
Emerald Bowl (California): MWC #3 vs P10 #6 ($825k)
Las Vegas Bowl (Nevada): MWC #2 vs P10 #5 ($800k)
Motor City Bowl (Detroit): B10 #7 vs MAC #1 ($800k)
Ft Worth Bowl (Texas): B12 #8 vs CUSA #4 ($750k)
MPC Bowl (Idaho): ACC #6 vs WAC ($750k)

So, I would want us to be careful about getting too many arrangements with automatic tie-ins to non-BCS opponents (Motor City and Toronto Bowls).

An 8+1 conference is only going to have so many qualified bowl teams.

I disagree.

A bowl game should be a reward and give loyal fans an excuse to travel to a warm locale during the brutal northern winters. The only Northeastern bowl Game that makes sense was the Big Apple Bowl b/c NYC is a destination people wouldn't mind travelling to during the holidays and it's the media capital of the world. Detroit or Toronto are just not enticing enough to spend a couple grand to watch a meaningless game.