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RE: Orlando Sentinal/Big East adds BYU, San Diego State to list of expansion targets
(11-08-2011 12:03 AM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(11-08-2011 12:00 AM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  
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(11-07-2011 11:46 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  I can go ahead and tell you I'd much rather be in a conference with WVU, Pitt, and SU than UCF, SMU, and Houston, but maybe I'm just crazy.

We're all just has-beens. Especially Syracuse and Pitt. UCF, SMU, and Houston are hot up and coming schools. You crazy nonsensical fool. Tradition means nothing. Which is why they were taken away by better overall conferences. Oh, wait...

Yeah because SMU and Houston have no tradition right? Houston and SMU has Heisman winners too!

Yeah last century. Haven't you heard? It's what have you done for me this past week. The past doesn't matter at all!!! 03-lmfao

Exactly! Now your getting it. What has Cuse dont in this new century? One lousy bowl game? The new conference the way its being rumored to shape out to be is stronger than the one we have now. Our BBall will be still the premiere league around as well. 8 teams remaining made the tourny last year, including the champs. Face it, just like in 2003 the Big East just got better and the ACC will end up holding some turds.

Once again you're way too far into the past. Really what has Syracuse done these past 5 seconds. Nothing! 03-lmfao Can you tell how stupid I think that argument is yet?

The Big East got better after '03? You're delusional. Cincinnati, Louisville, and South Florida have nothing in common with any of the Big East schools. That led to the Big East's downfall. The ACC on the other hand added 3 schools that competed in football right away, and are share the same values as other ACC members. Then they just added Syracuse and Pittsburgh to bridge Boston College to the rest of the league. That's how you expand.

Similar schools and similar geography makes for stable conferences. Not adding teams across the country that aren't similar to the rest of your members. Plus Boise State will make less money than UConn, but more than St Johns. Do you think any tension will arise from that within the Big East?
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11-08-2011 12:08 AM
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RE: Orlando Sentinal/Big East adds BYU, San Diego State to list of expansion targets
People need to get over the name of the Conference. It is JUST a name. It was an attempt at making a Northeastern conference but when conferences became football centric it was doomed to failure because any attempt to compete with just Northeastern programs is going to fail. College football is just not followed there like it is everywhere else.

So get over the NAME of the conference because the Big East is trying to survive as a football conference. That is impossible if they simply seek Eastern programs. For those thinking they should do such, you are obviously one of those that wishes to see it fail or you are simply ignorant of what the Big East is up against now AND in the future of Conference Realignments.

The Big East MUST reform itself into a national brand to try and maintain it's stature against the five other conferences that are by far better set up than it. The Big East also must defend against any upstart conferences trying to move into its "turf" in the BCS landscape. That means it has to look nationally and take the best that is available NATIONALLY.

All this talk about how far west SDSU lies is simply ignorant. These programs that want a seat at the big boy table are willing to pay for it and that means travel and the programs remaining in the Big East do not wish to see it fall so they are willing to pay too in order to see a Big East that is stronger then it has been.

With the proposed teams INCLUDING San Diego State the Big East will truly be stronger in football then it has been in quite some time. Luckily it seems those running the Big East have finally figured this out. People take shots at Marinetto about how slow he is to react, well there are still people here who think that the Big East should make decisions on it's invites based upon the damn name of the conference.
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11-08-2011 12:18 AM
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RE: Orlando Sentinal/Big East adds BYU, San Diego State to list of expansion targets
This is the funniest pissing match I've seen in awhile.
11-08-2011 12:33 AM
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RE: Orlando Sentinal/Big East adds BYU, San Diego State to list of expansion targets
(11-08-2011 12:33 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  This is the funniest pissing match I've seen in awhile.

The St Johns fan is always good for a good pissing match. The only thing you have to do to get him going is mention something even slightly bad about the Big East.

This time it happened to be a WVU fan pointing out the ridiculous geography of the Big East.
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Someone needs to remind that St. John's fan that his school doesn't even play football so he's not included in the conversation.
11-08-2011 01:02 AM
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(11-07-2011 11:38 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  I still think Nevada comes before San Deigo State.

Nevada's athletic budget is so small that they're struggling to stay Division I. Also, they have no market. They're not going anywhere, except maybe down.
11-08-2011 01:25 AM
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(11-08-2011 01:02 AM)TOGC Wrote:  Someone needs to remind that St. John's fan that his school doesn't even play football so he's not included in the conversation.

Well someone needs to remind the Memphis fan this is a COLLEGE conversation and you need to finish high school to be included in this conversation. Also, anyone who chooses their college based on their sports program who ISN'T and athlete is an idiot and doesn't belong in college.
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RE: Orlando Sentinal/Big East adds BYU, San Diego State to list of expansion targets
(11-07-2011 11:55 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(11-07-2011 11:46 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(11-07-2011 11:42 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(11-07-2011 11:39 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  
(11-07-2011 11:35 PM)Theodoresdaddy Wrote:  nothing says Big East like San Diego!

I wouldn't say that, now all the butthurt Big East fans will flock to insult you pathetic school. You'll be irrelevant now that you're in a respected conference. Just like Syracuse and Pitt will. 05-stirthepot

I was ninja'd by our resident St Johns fan.

Don't throw insults because we replaced all three of you with better FB programs. What would you rather have, a team in upstate NY or a team in the best recruiting territory in a FB crazy state? Hmmmmm

I can go ahead and tell you I'd much rather be in a conference with WVU, Pitt, and SU than UCF, SMU, and Houston, but maybe I'm just crazy.

Rutgers
UConn
Cuse
WVU
Pitt
Cincy
UofL
USF

OR

Rutgers
UConn
UofL
Cincy
USF
UCF
Boise
BYU
Houston
SMU
Navy
Air Force

I'd call you crazy. Especially if AF bails out and we get another quality western team. You better be hoping Navy bails and they need another eastern team.

My point was simple, I would take Pitt, WVU, and SU over UCF, SMU, and Houston. Yeah you guys are also adding a bunch of FB only members, but I was only comparing what your losing all sports compared to what your adding all sports. Not to mention I have been pretty clear for years that sitting on 8 FB members for that long was a short sighted mistake, and it's part of the reason the BE is in this situation right now.
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RE: Orlando Sentinal/Big East adds BYU, San Diego State to list of expansion targets
(11-07-2011 11:33 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  She is just speculating on what others have already written. BYU has been in talks with the Big East and San Diego is trying its best to promote itself as a package.

Nothing new here.

Ditto. There was a chat with some of their other journalists that confirms your opinion. They admitted they do not have any inside information and base their reporting on "best guess" wisdom from the information being posted by others.
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RE: Orlando Sentinal/Big East adds BYU, San Diego State to list of expansion targets
Change. The topic. Now.

NOT adds. "reaches out to".

I hate it when people type one thing, when the article OBVIOUSLY means another thing. FFS.
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