1) Greg Swaim IS an idiot. This is the only FACT in the thread.

2) The BigXII is not finished. The notion that they are is simply wishful thinking by some, and not looking at the big picture. Whether Louisville is in or not is a moot point. The point is that it defies logic and reason for them to stop at 10.

3) Elvis never did no drugs.


Bit, I can agree that all four invites would likely go out at the same time. My point is that I don't see FSU and Clemson coming on board unless there's an 11 and 12 coming as well. Something along those lines to prove that the BigXII is in fact interested in being a big boy conference and not just a waiting room for the Texoma schools until they can negotiate their way elsewhere.

(03-31-2012 04:02 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 03:57 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  Where did I say this was a BE board? And I hardly post on the BEboard and could really care less about BE realignment. And this thread involves future Pitt opponents, which is why I'm here in this thread. I know plenty of FSU folk and they laugh they asses off at this dumb rumor as well.

Unsure exactly where I "insulted" anyone. Maybe you should lighten up and have a sense of humor.

Plenty of FSU folks who laugh their asses off at this "dumb" rumor have absolutely zero power in whether or not FSU moves in the future. There would be plenty of other FSU folks that would be happy to be in a stronger football conference making more money and receiving more respect around the country.

See, I can make random comments about what people would want too. It doesn't count for jack squat.

Maybe you should lighten up and realize that boards like this are meant for discussion and discussing possibilities falls under what boards like this are meant for.

I have quite a good sense of humor, you dont know me at all but that seriously isnt going to stop you from making more ignorant remarks about me will it?

So you're telling me to lighten up when you're then one telling me to piss off and using ************* .... ook

But you're correct, none of us on these boards, or any other board, have 0 control of what whats going to happen.

I can agree that the Big XII is going to expand with UL and BYU as the likely 2 candidates. But I'd honestly wouldn't be surprised if Cincinnati, Rutgers, and UConn aren't in the mix.

(03-31-2012 04:22 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 04:02 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 03:57 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  Where did I say this was a BE board? And I hardly post on the BEboard and could really care less about BE realignment. And this thread involves future Pitt opponents, which is why I'm here in this thread. I know plenty of FSU folk and they laugh they asses off at this dumb rumor as well.

Unsure exactly where I "insulted" anyone. Maybe you should lighten up and have a sense of humor.

Plenty of FSU folks who laugh their asses off at this "dumb" rumor have absolutely zero power in whether or not FSU moves in the future. There would be plenty of other FSU folks that would be happy to be in a stronger football conference making more money and receiving more respect around the country.

See, I can make random comments about what people would want too. It doesn't count for jack squat.

Maybe you should lighten up and realize that boards like this are meant for discussion and discussing possibilities falls under what boards like this are meant for.

I have quite a good sense of humor, you dont know me at all but that seriously isnt going to stop you from making more ignorant remarks about me will it?

So you're telling me to lighten up when you're then one telling me to piss off and using ************* .... ook

But you're correct, none of us on these boards, or any other board, have 0 control of what whats going to happen.

I can agree that the Big XII is going to expand with UL and BYU as the likely 2 candidates. But I'd honestly wouldn't be surprised if Cincinnati, Rutgers, and UConn aren't in the mix.

See, that is fine. We differ in opinion obviously as I do not think that a combination of UL and BYU is enough for Texas and company to want to make divisions because those divisions are going to be extremely unbalanced. That is just my opinion and perhaps it will be proven wrong some day when the Oklahoma schools and the Texas schools don't all end up in the same division in a 2 division system.

I only use such flowery language when responding to aggression. If the piss off comment bothered you that much then im sorry. To me piss off is actually a funny comment. But that context can be lost I suppose. To me if someone tells me to piss off I am just as likely to laugh as get angry.

(03-31-2012 04:25 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 04:22 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 04:02 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 03:57 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  Where did I say this was a BE board? And I hardly post on the BEboard and could really care less about BE realignment. And this thread involves future Pitt opponents, which is why I'm here in this thread. I know plenty of FSU folk and they laugh they asses off at this dumb rumor as well.

Unsure exactly where I "insulted" anyone. Maybe you should lighten up and have a sense of humor.

Plenty of FSU folks who laugh their asses off at this "dumb" rumor have absolutely zero power in whether or not FSU moves in the future. There would be plenty of other FSU folks that would be happy to be in a stronger football conference making more money and receiving more respect around the country.

See, I can make random comments about what people would want too. It doesn't count for jack squat.

Maybe you should lighten up and realize that boards like this are meant for discussion and discussing possibilities falls under what boards like this are meant for.

I have quite a good sense of humor, you dont know me at all but that seriously isnt going to stop you from making more ignorant remarks about me will it?

So you're telling me to lighten up when you're then one telling me to piss off and using ************* .... ook

But you're correct, none of us on these boards, or any other board, have 0 control of what whats going to happen.

I can agree that the Big XII is going to expand with UL and BYU as the likely 2 candidates. But I'd honestly wouldn't be surprised if Cincinnati, Rutgers, and UConn aren't in the mix.

See, that is fine. We differ in opinion obviously as I do not think that a combination of UL and BYU is enough for Texas and company to want to make divisions because those divisions are going to be extremely unbalanced. That is just my opinion and perhaps it will be proven wrong some day when the Oklahoma schools and the Texas schools don't all end up in the same division in a 2 division system.

I only use such flowery language when responding to aggression. If the piss off comment bothered you that much then im sorry. To me piss off is actually a funny comment. But that context can be lost I suppose. To me if someone tells me to piss off I am just as likely to laugh as get angry.

piss off then.

(03-31-2012 04:27 PM)EerMeNow Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 04:25 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 04:22 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 04:02 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 03:57 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  Where did I say this was a BE board? And I hardly post on the BEboard and could really care less about BE realignment. And this thread involves future Pitt opponents, which is why I'm here in this thread. I know plenty of FSU folk and they laugh they asses off at this dumb rumor as well.

Unsure exactly where I "insulted" anyone. Maybe you should lighten up and have a sense of humor.

Plenty of FSU folks who laugh their asses off at this "dumb" rumor have absolutely zero power in whether or not FSU moves in the future. There would be plenty of other FSU folks that would be happy to be in a stronger football conference making more money and receiving more respect around the country.

See, I can make random comments about what people would want too. It doesn't count for jack squat.

Maybe you should lighten up and realize that boards like this are meant for discussion and discussing possibilities falls under what boards like this are meant for.

I have quite a good sense of humor, you dont know me at all but that seriously isnt going to stop you from making more ignorant remarks about me will it?

So you're telling me to lighten up when you're then one telling me to piss off and using ************* .... ook

But you're correct, none of us on these boards, or any other board, have 0 control of what whats going to happen.

I can agree that the Big XII is going to expand with UL and BYU as the likely 2 candidates. But I'd honestly wouldn't be surprised if Cincinnati, Rutgers, and UConn aren't in the mix.

See, that is fine. We differ in opinion obviously as I do not think that a combination of UL and BYU is enough for Texas and company to want to make divisions because those divisions are going to be extremely unbalanced. That is just my opinion and perhaps it will be proven wrong some day when the Oklahoma schools and the Texas schools don't all end up in the same division in a 2 division system.

I only use such flowery language when responding to aggression. If the piss off comment bothered you that much then im sorry. To me piss off is actually a funny comment. But that context can be lost I suppose. To me if someone tells me to piss off I am just as likely to laugh as get angry.

piss off then.

(03-31-2012 04:27 PM)EerMeNow Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 04:25 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 04:22 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 04:02 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 03:57 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  Where did I say this was a BE board? And I hardly post on the BEboard and could really care less about BE realignment. And this thread involves future Pitt opponents, which is why I'm here in this thread. I know plenty of FSU folk and they laugh they asses off at this dumb rumor as well.

Unsure exactly where I "insulted" anyone. Maybe you should lighten up and have a sense of humor.

Plenty of FSU folks who laugh their asses off at this "dumb" rumor have absolutely zero power in whether or not FSU moves in the future. There would be plenty of other FSU folks that would be happy to be in a stronger football conference making more money and receiving more respect around the country.

See, I can make random comments about what people would want too. It doesn't count for jack squat.

Maybe you should lighten up and realize that boards like this are meant for discussion and discussing possibilities falls under what boards like this are meant for.

I have quite a good sense of humor, you dont know me at all but that seriously isnt going to stop you from making more ignorant remarks about me will it?

So you're telling me to lighten up when you're then one telling me to piss off and using ************* .... ook

But you're correct, none of us on these boards, or any other board, have 0 control of what whats going to happen.

I can agree that the Big XII is going to expand with UL and BYU as the likely 2 candidates. But I'd honestly wouldn't be surprised if Cincinnati, Rutgers, and UConn aren't in the mix.

See, that is fine. We differ in opinion obviously as I do not think that a combination of UL and BYU is enough for Texas and company to want to make divisions because those divisions are going to be extremely unbalanced. That is just my opinion and perhaps it will be proven wrong some day when the Oklahoma schools and the Texas schools don't all end up in the same division in a 2 division system.

I only use such flowery language when responding to aggression. If the piss off comment bothered you that much then im sorry. To me piss off is actually a funny comment. But that context can be lost I suppose. To me if someone tells me to piss off I am just as likely to laugh as get angry.

piss off then.

Well played.

ALL Y'ALL B!TCHES PISS OFF!

There. I feel better now. Lol

(03-31-2012 04:28 PM)3rdandBlunder Wrote:  ALL Y'ALL B!TCHES PISS OFF!

There. I feel better now. Lol

phuk you

See now I feel like we are at a bar having drinks and having realignment talk like men. Yeah I am gonna tell you to piss off sometimes during that conversation but I may also buy you another round afterwards so you are good and drunk so I can make you see things my way!

(03-31-2012 04:34 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  See now I feel like we are at a bar having drinks and having realignment talk like men. Yeah I am gonna tell you to piss off sometimes during that conversation but I may also buy you another round afterwards so you are good and drunk so I can make you see things my way!

Ha... won't get me to join the world of the "Twilight Zone" so quickly

(03-31-2012 04:35 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 04:34 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  See now I feel like we are at a bar having drinks and having realignment talk like men. Yeah I am gonna tell you to piss off sometimes during that conversation but I may also buy you another round afterwards so you are good and drunk so I can make you see things my way!

Ha... won't get me to join the world of the "Twilight Zone" so quickly

Good.....so we can now all agree that FSU and Clemson will be joining to Big 12 this June. What's next?

(03-31-2012 04:35 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 04:34 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  See now I feel like we are at a bar having drinks and having realignment talk like men. Yeah I am gonna tell you to piss off sometimes during that conversation but I may also buy you another round afterwards so you are good and drunk so I can make you see things my way!

Ha... won't get me to join the world of the "Twilight Zone" so quickly

That's ok, you buy the rounds when we begin living in the Twilight Zone.

(03-31-2012 03:51 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 03:46 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 03:41 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 03:37 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 03:29 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  Sometimes this board is like the "Twilight Zone." Very little of what is discussed on here is remotely plausible.

Sad but true.

So you old timers here have deigned yourselves the ones to state what conversation is worthy and what isnt? Conversation is conversation and traffic is traffic.

I find it amusing that guys like you and the doc think that a Florida State move is not even remotely plausible.

No one is saying that it is a sure thing but it is certainly "remotely plausible". It is like you guys dont even think about your wording. You just hate these ideas so much and are so full of yourselves that you use wording that is absolute to try and shut down conversation.

If you do not like the way the conversation is going then why post? To try and shut it down? Piss off.

LOL what... The SEC would swoop up FSU and Clemson before the B12 would even have a chance.

The fact that we're on Page 6 of a thread based partly on a Greg Swaim tweet proves to me how gullible some of y'all are. But hey, have fun in this cesspool. There's a reason why I hardly post here. I just wished people would actually use a bit of common sense on this board.

You have reading comprehension issues obviously. I started off MY posting by stating how his line up is way out of wack. Oh but I am posting in a thread started by a posting of what Greg Swaim said so I MUST be a Swaimaholic! Once again you use inflammatory accusations and insults. The tweet simply started a conversation, a conversation that has happened many times but gradually changes as new persons begin to input their thoughts into the brew. I guess you just hate that people are talking about ideas you disagree with. Can't say I will miss you. You havnt added a single thing to this conversation that isnt disrespectful and insulting.

And no it is not set in stone that the SEC would swoop in and take up FSU to stop the Big 12. There have been plenty of quality arguments made as to why the SEC might not do that but anyone that disagrees with you is foolish right?

Why dont you old timers that cant stand anyone disagreeing with you go make your own small ****** **** board if you cant handle a larger population with varying opinions? This is no longer your Big East board yada yada yada, yeah we know. It is not advertised as such either. THIS forum is for conference realignment not Big East realignment.

People are using plenty of common sense, they are actually looking at the whole situation and realizing just how fluid it can actually be. That is something you old timers do not seem to understand.

You berate them and tell them to go back to their own board because they aren't agreeable to your terms...you do realize the irony of saying that, correct? Seriously, the amount of butthurt in your post when you are a fan of a school that doesn't even have a dog in this fight...it's rather astounding.

(03-31-2012 02:30 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  I believe that BYU is still only toying with the Big 12. Potently FSU and Clemson may decide to make a move and that would make great since with WVU already there and could draw Pitt away from ACC before starting there. But I feel that when the smoke clears for the 12's eastern movement it will be Louisville, Cincinnati, Rutgers and South Florida with maybe Memphis and Uconn or Houston. This would Greatly strengthen the 12's Basketball side as well as adding strength to the football and Baseball sides as well as the Womens Basketball programs. It would strip the BE of it's Current top BB powers outside of the BB only programs. It would eliminate the BE as a Football power. Do I want that to happen, No, but it is a very strong possibility. I enjoy the Beast but I know with the BCS changes that Something and Someone will be broken up whether the BE or the ACC it will happen in the next few years.

If we cant land FSU and Clemson we'd stop at just BYU and Louisville.

(03-31-2012 04:43 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 03:51 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 03:46 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 03:41 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 03:37 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  Sad but true.

So you old timers here have deigned yourselves the ones to state what conversation is worthy and what isnt? Conversation is conversation and traffic is traffic.

I find it amusing that guys like you and the doc think that a Florida State move is not even remotely plausible.

No one is saying that it is a sure thing but it is certainly "remotely plausible". It is like you guys dont even think about your wording. You just hate these ideas so much and are so full of yourselves that you use wording that is absolute to try and shut down conversation.

If you do not like the way the conversation is going then why post? To try and shut it down? Piss off.

LOL what... The SEC would swoop up FSU and Clemson before the B12 would even have a chance.

The fact that we're on Page 6 of a thread based partly on a Greg Swaim tweet proves to me how gullible some of y'all are. But hey, have fun in this cesspool. There's a reason why I hardly post here. I just wished people would actually use a bit of common sense on this board.

You have reading comprehension issues obviously. I started off MY posting by stating how his line up is way out of wack. Oh but I am posting in a thread started by a posting of what Greg Swaim said so I MUST be a Swaimaholic! Once again you use inflammatory accusations and insults. The tweet simply started a conversation, a conversation that has happened many times but gradually changes as new persons begin to input their thoughts into the brew. I guess you just hate that people are talking about ideas you disagree with. Can't say I will miss you. You havnt added a single thing to this conversation that isnt disrespectful and insulting.

And no it is not set in stone that the SEC would swoop in and take up FSU to stop the Big 12. There have been plenty of quality arguments made as to why the SEC might not do that but anyone that disagrees with you is foolish right?

Why dont you old timers that cant stand anyone disagreeing with you go make your own small ****** **** board if you cant handle a larger population with varying opinions? This is no longer your Big East board yada yada yada, yeah we know. It is not advertised as such either. THIS forum is for conference realignment not Big East realignment.

People are using plenty of common sense, they are actually looking at the whole situation and realizing just how fluid it can actually be. That is something you old timers do not seem to understand.

You berate them and tell them to go back to their own board because they aren't agreeable to your terms...you do realize the irony of saying that, correct? Seriously, the amount of butthurt in your post when you are a fan of a school that doesn't even have a dog in this fight...it's rather astounding.

I debate here with plenty of people that do not agree with me. My terms would be to disagree with me but do not try and insult my intelligence simply because I do not agree with you. There is no irony at all in it. I was simply speaking to Yinzer in language he seems to understand.

There is no butthurt in my posting despite your failing attempt to paint my post as such, so you can just go piss off too for trying to come at me like that. You are not a very good artist.

My school doesn't have a dog in this fight?

My school may not have as big of a dog in this fight, for sure but these future moves will affect everyone. Some of my scenarios I have posted bring four schools from the ACC to the Big Ten. That affects my school. I find it astounding how such a simple concept is beyond you.

(03-31-2012 04:46 PM)Sammy11 Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 02:30 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  I believe that BYU is still only toying with the Big 12. Potently FSU and Clemson may decide to make a move and that would make great since with WVU already there and could draw Pitt away from ACC before starting there. But I feel that when the smoke clears for the 12's eastern movement it will be Louisville, Cincinnati, Rutgers and South Florida with maybe Memphis and Uconn or Houston. This would Greatly strengthen the 12's Basketball side as well as adding strength to the football and Baseball sides as well as the Womens Basketball programs. It would strip the BE of it's Current top BB powers outside of the BB only programs. It would eliminate the BE as a Football power. Do I want that to happen, No, but it is a very strong possibility. I enjoy the Beast but I know with the BCS changes that Something and Someone will be broken up whether the BE or the ACC it will happen in the next few years.

If we cant land FSU and Clemson we'd stop at just BYU and Louisville.

Would you be happy to see Baylor not be in a division with all of the Texas and Oklahoma schools?

(03-31-2012 04:54 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 04:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 04:43 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 03:51 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 03:46 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  LOL what... The SEC would swoop up FSU and Clemson before the B12 would even have a chance.

The fact that we're on Page 6 of a thread based partly on a Greg Swaim tweet proves to me how gullible some of y'all are. But hey, have fun in this cesspool. There's a reason why I hardly post here. I just wished people would actually use a bit of common sense on this board.

You have reading comprehension issues obviously. I started off MY posting by stating how his line up is way out of wack. Oh but I am posting in a thread started by a posting of what Greg Swaim said so I MUST be a Swaimaholic! Once again you use inflammatory accusations and insults. The tweet simply started a conversation, a conversation that has happened many times but gradually changes as new persons begin to input their thoughts into the brew. I guess you just hate that people are talking about ideas you disagree with. Can't say I will miss you. You havnt added a single thing to this conversation that isnt disrespectful and insulting.

And no it is not set in stone that the SEC would swoop in and take up FSU to stop the Big 12. There have been plenty of quality arguments made as to why the SEC might not do that but anyone that disagrees with you is foolish right?

Why dont you old timers that cant stand anyone disagreeing with you go make your own small ****** **** board if you cant handle a larger population with varying opinions? This is no longer your Big East board yada yada yada, yeah we know. It is not advertised as such either. THIS forum is for conference realignment not Big East realignment.

People are using plenty of common sense, they are actually looking at the whole situation and realizing just how fluid it can actually be. That is something you old timers do not seem to understand.

You berate them and tell them to go back to their own board because they aren't agreeable to your terms...you do realize the irony of saying that, correct? Seriously, the amount of butthurt in your post when you are a fan of a school that doesn't even have a dog in this fight...it's rather astounding.

I debate here with plenty of people that do not agree with me. My terms would be to disagree with me but do not try and insult my intelligence simply because I do not agree with you. There is no irony at all in it. I was simply speaking to Yinzer in language he seems to understand.

There is no butthurt in my posting despite your failing attempt to paint my post as such, so you can just go piss off too for trying to come at me like that. You are not a very good artist.

My school doesn't have a dog in this fight?

My school may not have as big of a dog in this fight, for sure but these future moves will affect everyone. Some of my scenarios I have posted bring four schools from the ACC to the Big Ten. That affects my school. I find it astounding how such a simple concept is beyond you.

Internet tough guy I see, guess I should run home to my mommy cause some ******* in Iowa thinks he's badass on a keyboard.

As I thought, you took the bait because you had absolutely nothing to say in response to the rest. Thank you.

(03-31-2012 04:56 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 04:55 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 04:54 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 04:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 04:43 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  You berate them and tell them to go back to their own board because they aren't agreeable to your terms...you do realize the irony of saying that, correct? Seriously, the amount of butthurt in your post when you are a fan of a school that doesn't even have a dog in this fight...it's rather astounding.

I debate here with plenty of people that do not agree with me. My terms would be to disagree with me but do not try and insult my intelligence simply because I do not agree with you. There is no irony at all in it. I was simply speaking to Yinzer in language he seems to understand.

There is no butthurt in my posting despite your failing attempt to paint my post as such, so you can just go piss off too for trying to come at me like that. You are not a very good artist.

My school doesn't have a dog in this fight?

My school may not have as big of a dog in this fight, for sure but these future moves will affect everyone. Some of my scenarios I have posted bring four schools from the ACC to the Big Ten. That affects my school. I find it astounding how such a simple concept is beyond you.

Internet tough guy I see, guess I should run home to my mommy cause some ******* in Iowa thinks he's badass on a keyboard.

As I thought, you took the bait because you had absolutely nothing to say in response to the rest. Thank you.

Because I don't give a **** about the rest of your ******* post genius.

You mean the parts that make sense? Got it, everyone take notes. This guy does not like to respond to that which makes sense.

BYU's the oddball here. I think without them, expansion would be TOTALLY eastward. I still maintain that it'd take getting to 12 and a CCG + seeing precisely how much more schools would make under the new agreement (and making more if more join) to actually lure Clemson and FSU. The invites may go out at the same time like Bit said, rendering this ultimately a moot conversation, but I think you're going to see 14 with Clemson and FSU (maybe all at once) or simply 12 with BYU and Louisville. I just don't see a world where FSU and Clemson would come in as 11 and 12 and things be hunky doory and settled. I think they're content where they're at and wanting some drastic action\money to lure them away....but that they ARE willing to entertain offers.

damn... didn't mean to get this all heated up... appreciate the back up there Lord3Fly but we got this all squashed last page.

Lets relax and take a deep breath...