(04-29-2012 01:16 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-29-2012 01:11 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(04-29-2012 01:05 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  The teens are already making a statement by committing suicide, discussing the possible reasons behind it and addressing how they can be changed are rationally the next steps.

That would be great if UofM didn't already have what he was going to say about every response in a word processor ready to be copied and pasted.

He's just using this to say "Look at what all of you Christians are responsible for"

i'm glad you see the truth...

Yes I see that's what you think is the truth.

(04-29-2012 01:11 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(04-29-2012 01:05 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  The teens are already making a statement by committing suicide, discussing the possible reasons behind it and addressing how they can be changed are rationally the next steps.

That would be great if UofM didn't already have what he was going to say about every response in a word processor ready to be copied and pasted.

He's just using this to say "Look at what all of you Christians are responsible for"

I have no problem agreeing that there is a segment of very vocal religious persons who are making this issue worse through their opposition to the homosexual lifestyle in all its incarnations, but I personally know far more religious persons who are doing the exact opposite. It's just as cultural as religious at this point, and I'd wager most of those claiming religion as the source of their disapproval would disapprove without religion, so blaming religion itself is just simplistic.

In the end though, another young person dies before they really even get to start their life, and I do love the 'it gets better' campaign for what it says; High School means literally nothing to your actual life. It can seem like it's everything at the time, and that makes things seem far worse (or better, for the Uncle Ricos out there) than they really are, but just get through it and they you get to actually live your life.

(04-29-2012 12:28 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  here's another dead gay kid for you guys to celebrate!!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/29...62594.html

Says he suffered from heterophobia and says he "allegedly" was being subjected to bullying. And he killed himself. Never says why he offed himself. In fact it says details of his suicide are scarce.

But he's a dead pussyphobic. Can't let the opportunity to use a dead SofiaVergaraphobic go to waste.

(04-29-2012 01:24 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(04-29-2012 12:28 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  here's another dead gay kid for you guys to celebrate!!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/29...62594.html

Says he suffered from heterophobia and says he "allegedly" was being subjected to bullying. And he killed himself. Never says why he offed himself. In fact it says details of his suicide are scarce.

But he's a dead pussyphobic. Can't let the opportunity to use a dead SofiaVergaraphobic go to waste.

ah, another westboro member...

No, just someone who doesn't immediately jump to unsupported conclusions.

(04-29-2012 01:24 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(04-29-2012 01:11 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(04-29-2012 01:05 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  The teens are already making a statement by committing suicide, discussing the possible reasons behind it and addressing how they can be changed are rationally the next steps.

That would be great if UofM didn't already have what he was going to say about every response in a word processor ready to be copied and pasted.

He's just using this to say "Look at what all of you Christians are responsible for"

I have no problem agreeing that there is a segment of very vocal religious persons who are making this issue worse through their opposition to the homosexual lifestyle in all its incarnations, but I personally know far more religious persons who are doing the exact opposite. It's just as cultural as religious at this point, and I'd wager most of those claiming religion as the source of their disapproval would disapprove without religion, so blaming religion itself is just simplistic.

In the end though, another young person dies before they really even get to start their life, and I do love the 'it gets better' campaign for what it says; High School means literally nothing to your actual life. It can seem like it's everything at the time, and that makes things seem far worse (or better, for the Uncle Ricos out there) than they really are, but just get through it and they you get to actually live your life.

I totally agree with you. High School is rough for everyone until you can officially realize that you won't see those people after you graduate or you somehow break into the rank of 'popular'. I like the message from the 'it gets better' thing but not the guy behind it.

Oh and BTW, there are pages of rational conversation in this thread. They are almost always broken up by our resident one-liner-in-chief.

(04-29-2012 01:05 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  The teens are already making a statement by committing suicide, discussing the possible reasons behind it and addressing how they can be changed are rationally the next steps.

Then why do people keep denying the most probable reasons behind it?

The left isn't interested in rationality. They prefer to exploit people.

(04-29-2012 01:10 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-29-2012 01:05 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  The teens are already making a statement by committing suicide, discussing the possible reasons behind it and addressing how they can be changed are rationally the next steps.

these are conservatives...they don't understand rational conversation....they just attack, attack, attack

Uh, who started this thread and the accusations?

(04-29-2012 01:36 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Oh and BTW, there are pages of rational conversation in this thread. They are almost always broken up by our resident one-liner-in-chief.

:iagree:

(04-29-2012 04:59 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-29-2012 01:05 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  The teens are already making a statement by committing suicide, discussing the possible reasons behind it and addressing how they can be changed are rationally the next steps.

Then why do people keep denying the most probable reasons behind it?

The left isn't interested in rationality. They prefer to exploit people.

Admittedly haven't read the entire thread, what are the most probably reasons you are claiming?

Depression and other psychological problems.

Ah, but surely you admit those problems can be made significantly worse by bullying and the like, yes? I do agree though that to a person, that is a far greater indication of suicide occurring.