(08-23-2012 01:18 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  

(08-23-2012 12:44 PM)eltigre Wrote:  

(08-23-2012 12:25 PM)KittyHawkPirate Wrote:  

(08-23-2012 12:14 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(07-30-2012 05:48 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  Wow, just ... wow.

Have a good evening PITL.

edited to bold the correct portion of the post

The only positive I can glean from Memphis being gone is that it might be easier to win the conference and move our program up, but for the conference overall it's not a positive in the near term. But, now ECU can maybe aspire to win the conference whereas with Memphis around that is an unrealistic expectation.

There are other positives. It helps everyone’s strength of schedule for football, but at the same time takes away a guaranteed win. Guess there are pluses and minuses to everything.

The good news is Tiger football is on the rebound and will return to winning ways. Our TV revenue for ONE year is about to be such that it will equal what 5 to 8 years of our current CUSA revenue would be. ECU TV revenue picture is not so rosy. You are right. Pluses and minuses abound.

Why is that so funny? For the first time since the 70s the powers that be are seriously investing in Tiger football.

In the past year Memphis has built or upgraded

Football only weight room
Meeting/film rooms
locker rooms
recruiting lounge
hall of fame
tailgating area
new locker rooms at the liberty bowl
media room at the liberty bowl
video screens at the liberty bowl
practice fields including a new turf field
new turf for the liberty bowl
and the new indoor practice facility is about to be constructed.

Together with a new AD and exciting new coaching staff, I'd say that's on the rebound.

(08-23-2012 06:45 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(08-23-2012 01:18 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  

(08-23-2012 12:44 PM)eltigre Wrote:  

(08-23-2012 12:25 PM)KittyHawkPirate Wrote:  

(08-23-2012 12:14 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  The only positive I can glean from Memphis being gone is that it might be easier to win the conference and move our program up, but for the conference overall it's not a positive in the near term. But, now ECU can maybe aspire to win the conference whereas with Memphis around that is an unrealistic expectation.

There are other positives. It helps everyone’s strength of schedule for football, but at the same time takes away a guaranteed win. Guess there are pluses and minuses to everything.

The good news is Tiger football is on the rebound and will return to winning ways. Our TV revenue for ONE year is about to be such that it will equal what 5 to 8 years of our current CUSA revenue would be. ECU TV revenue picture is not so rosy. You are right. Pluses and minuses abound.

Why is that so funny? For the first time since the 70s the powers that be are seriously investing in Tiger football.

In the past year Memphis has built or upgraded

Football only weight room
Meeting/film rooms
locker rooms
recruiting lounge
hall of fame
tailgating area
new locker rooms at the liberty bowl
media room at the liberty bowl
video screens at the liberty bowl
practice fields including a new turf field
new turf for the liberty bowl
and the new indoor practice facility is about to be constructed.

Together with a new AD and exciting new coaching staff, I'd say that's on the rebound.

Yep. However, I would like to know the thoughts of bondsjons on the matter, minus the potty mouth and personal insults mind you.

(08-23-2012 12:44 PM)eltigre Wrote:  

(08-23-2012 12:25 PM)KittyHawkPirate Wrote:  

(08-23-2012 12:14 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(07-30-2012 05:48 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(07-30-2012 02:53 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  I know its hard for Memphis fans to grasp, but FOOTBALL IS KING. It drives the bus. Congrats on your BE berth and basketball success, but most ECU fans are glad Memphis is gone. Its a basketball school and FB is king. When the ACC commish says that 85% of its TV contract is from FB, that should tell you something.

What ECU fans want is for ODU to keep recruits home instead of going to VT and UVA and a lesser extent Richmond....and Charlotte to keep recruits home instead of going to the ACC and a lesser extent App State. If that happens, the programs will be good, it will generate interest and the more interest in FB, the more value it has for TV contracts. That makes ECU money.

Wow, just ... wow.

Have a good evening PITL.

edited to bold the correct portion of the post

The only positive I can glean from Memphis being gone is that it might be easier to win the conference and move our program up, but for the conference overall it's not a positive in the near term. But, now ECU can maybe aspire to win the conference whereas with Memphis around that is an unrealistic expectation.

There are other positives. It helps everyone’s strength of schedule for football, but at the same time takes away a guaranteed win. Guess there are pluses and minuses to everything.

The good news is Tiger football is on the rebound and will return to winning ways. Our TV revenue for ONE year is about to be such that it will equal what 5 to 8 years of our current CUSA revenue would be. ECU TV revenue picture is not so rosy. You are right. Pluses and minuses abound.

Tiger football on the rebound??? Sorry, don't mean to talk smack, but where are you seeing this. Every sporting outlet I've seen says 1-2 wins at best. Yes, Memphis football is taking full advantage of the BB and your location because the football certainly didn't earn it. Thats why they are getting more money and beleive this big payout when I see it. Good luck with that.

(08-23-2012 07:28 PM)KittyHawkPirate Wrote:  

(08-23-2012 12:44 PM)eltigre Wrote:  

(08-23-2012 12:25 PM)KittyHawkPirate Wrote:  

(08-23-2012 12:14 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(07-30-2012 05:48 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  Wow, just ... wow.

Have a good evening PITL.

edited to bold the correct portion of the post

The only positive I can glean from Memphis being gone is that it might be easier to win the conference and move our program up, but for the conference overall it's not a positive in the near term. But, now ECU can maybe aspire to win the conference whereas with Memphis around that is an unrealistic expectation.

There are other positives. It helps everyone’s strength of schedule for football, but at the same time takes away a guaranteed win. Guess there are pluses and minuses to everything.

The good news is Tiger football is on the rebound and will return to winning ways. Our TV revenue for ONE year is about to be such that it will equal what 5 to 8 years of our current CUSA revenue would be. ECU TV revenue picture is not so rosy. You are right. Pluses and minuses abound.

Tiger football on the rebound??? Sorry, don't mean to talk smack, but where are you seeing this. Every sporting outlet I've seen says 1-2 wins at best. Yes, Memphis football is taking full advantage of the BB and your location because the football certainly didn't earn it. Thats why they are getting more money and beleive this big payout when I see it. Good luck with that.

Thanks for the good luck wishes. I am seeing the rebound in the investment being made in the football program. I think it's mentioned.....above....in this thread that is. We are taking advantage of our basketball aren't we? It's a good thing because we invested a lot in that program too and that has been shown over many seasons here in CUSA. I think our football has shown before that it can win and that was with a halfhearted commitment...nay...NO commitment to the sport. That has changed now. Time will tell but the buzz around the program is there.

(08-23-2012 07:28 PM)KittyHawkPirate Wrote:  

(08-23-2012 12:44 PM)eltigre Wrote:  

(08-23-2012 12:25 PM)KittyHawkPirate Wrote:  

(08-23-2012 12:14 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(07-30-2012 05:48 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  Wow, just ... wow.

Have a good evening PITL.

edited to bold the correct portion of the post

The only positive I can glean from Memphis being gone is that it might be easier to win the conference and move our program up, but for the conference overall it's not a positive in the near term. But, now ECU can maybe aspire to win the conference whereas with Memphis around that is an unrealistic expectation.

There are other positives. It helps everyone’s strength of schedule for football, but at the same time takes away a guaranteed win. Guess there are pluses and minuses to everything.

The good news is Tiger football is on the rebound and will return to winning ways. Our TV revenue for ONE year is about to be such that it will equal what 5 to 8 years of our current CUSA revenue would be. ECU TV revenue picture is not so rosy. You are right. Pluses and minuses abound.

Tiger football on the rebound??? Sorry, don't mean to talk smack, but where are you seeing this. Every sporting outlet I've seen says 1-2 wins at best. Yes, Memphis football is taking full advantage of the BB and your location because the football certainly didn't earn it. Thats why they are getting more money and beleive this big payout when I see it. Good luck with that.

Our basketball has shown more success than ECU has in ANY sport. Keep that in mind.

Where are we seeing a rebound? A completely different look and attitude at practice than the past 3-4 seasons, new and improved facilities, better coaches.


It's funny, the second ECU got passed over for the Big East was about the same second many of them began to talk about what a crap conference it was......knowing full well that they would join tonight if invited.

(08-23-2012 12:44 PM)eltigre Wrote:  Our TV revenue for ONE year is about to be such that it will equal what 5 to 8 years of our current CUSA revenue would be.

That remains to be seen and is highly unlikely. This $10 million per year per team to watch Memphis v. SMU is a pipe dream.....especially when the same game is paid $1.5 mill now.

(08-23-2012 08:15 PM)EdisonDoyle Wrote:  

(08-23-2012 12:44 PM)eltigre Wrote:  Our TV revenue for ONE year is about to be such that it will equal what 5 to 8 years of our current CUSA revenue would be.

That remains to be seen and is highly unlikely. This $10 million per year per team to watch Memphis v. SMU is a pipe dream.....especially when the same game is paid $1.5 mill now.

When the same package includes Louisville vs Boise St in football as well as UConn vs Georgetown in hoops?

Those numbers aren't being made up on message boards. They are coming from writers many of whom are employed by the very networks bidding for the Big East TV rights.

(08-23-2012 12:44 PM)eltigre Wrote:  The good news is Tiger football is on the rebound and will return to winning ways. Our TV revenue for ONE year is about to be such that it will equal what 5 to 8 years of our current CUSA revenue would be.

Post of the Year!!!!!

I wish them well in their new league, and thank them for the exit fees and basketball credits. Money is tough nowadays, and with both leagues getting approximately the same TV contract, it will help!

I just got my new sig....

(02-26-2013 03:34 AM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(08-23-2012 12:44 PM)eltigre Wrote:  The good news is Tiger football is on the rebound and will return to winning ways. Our TV revenue for ONE year is about to be such that it will equal what 5 to 8 years of our current CUSA revenue would be.

Post of the Year!!!!!

Subtract the exit fees from CUSA revenue and that might be accurate.

(02-26-2013 03:10 PM)58-56 Wrote:  

(02-26-2013 03:34 AM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(08-23-2012 12:44 PM)eltigre Wrote:  The good news is Tiger football is on the rebound and will return to winning ways. Our TV revenue for ONE year is about to be such that it will equal what 5 to 8 years of our current CUSA revenue would be.

Post of the Year!!!!!

Subtract the exit fees from CUSA revenue and that might be accurate.

Do what?

(02-26-2013 03:10 PM)58-56 Wrote:  

(02-26-2013 03:34 AM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(08-23-2012 12:44 PM)eltigre Wrote:  The good news is Tiger football is on the rebound and will return to winning ways. Our TV revenue for ONE year is about to be such that it will equal what 5 to 8 years of our current CUSA revenue would be.

Post of the Year!!!!!

Subtract the exit fees from CUSA revenue and that might be accurate.

You're talking about two different piles of money.

(07-27-2012 09:51 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  I don't know if AFA comes over with out CSU and Wyoming

I'd be really surprised if Air Force would do that.

damn we were all dumb back then

Who says we are not dumb right now?

(02-26-2013 03:34 AM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(08-23-2012 12:44 PM)eltigre Wrote:  The good news is Tiger football is on the rebound and will return to winning ways. Our TV revenue for ONE year is about to be such that it will equal what 5 to 8 years of our current CUSA revenue would be.

Post of the Year!!!!!

To be fair, it was last year.

(07-27-2012 10:04 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  I've been all for staying in CUSA.


But if they choose to expand too much, then the conference will be on the verge of completely losing its identity.

Then (and only then), I could see the pendelum swing as the majority of the UTEP fans will have a preference for MWC. I can only guess that Tulsa and Rice fans may feel the same way.

I hope this is only a way of keeping other schools engaged in the event of further poaching. I hope the intent is not to bring too many small schools into the conf just for the sake of bringing them in.

What he said (back then)... Oh wait.

(08-23-2012 07:42 PM)eltigre Wrote:  

(08-23-2012 07:28 PM)KittyHawkPirate Wrote:  

(08-23-2012 12:44 PM)eltigre Wrote:  

(08-23-2012 12:25 PM)KittyHawkPirate Wrote:  

(08-23-2012 12:14 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  The only positive I can glean from Memphis being gone is that it might be easier to win the conference and move our program up, but for the conference overall it's not a positive in the near term. But, now ECU can maybe aspire to win the conference whereas with Memphis around that is an unrealistic expectation.

There are other positives. It helps everyone’s strength of schedule for football, but at the same time takes away a guaranteed win. Guess there are pluses and minuses to everything.

The good news is Tiger football is on the rebound and will return to winning ways. Our TV revenue for ONE year is about to be such that it will equal what 5 to 8 years of our current CUSA revenue would be. ECU TV revenue picture is not so rosy. You are right. Pluses and minuses abound.

[b]Tiger football on the rebound??? Sorry, don't mean to talk smack, but where are you seeing this. Every sporting outlet I've seen says 1-2 wins at best. Yes, Memphis football is taking full advantage of the BB and your location because the football certainly didn't earn it. Thats why they are getting more money and beleive this big payout when I see it. Good luck with that.[/b]

Thanks for the good luck wishes. I am seeing the rebound in the investment being made in the football program. I think it's mentioned.....above....in this thread that is. We are taking advantage of our basketball aren't we? It's a good thing because we invested a lot in that program too and that has been shown over many seasons here in CUSA. I think our football has shown before that it can win and that was with a halfhearted commitment...nay...NO commitment to the sport. That has changed now. Time will tell but the buzz around the program is there.

I wish Rice could learn what Memphis did by committing to its major men's sports. We'll see them in the AAC...for a little while at least. The above posts are interesting to look back on.

(07-27-2012 10:14 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(07-27-2012 09:48 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  I feel sorry for East Carolina, Tulsa and Southern Miss.

Stop hijacking the thread.

Besides, talk about feeling sorry for somebody. I feel sorry for Houston. You guys will get crushed consistently in BE basketball with no rivalries in the league other than SMU. Have fun with that....lol

I feel like this post didn't age well. Houston fared well for themselves in basketball (albeit AAC instead of BE) and had other rivalries than SMU. Also, they're going to the Big 12 less than ten years later