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VT adds Liberty to their schedule... really?
http://hamptonroads.com/2012/07/report-h...eries-year

Quote:The Hokies adjusted their slate to fit the league's new scheduling plan, pushing back a series against East Carolina that was set to start in 2014 and replacing Western Kentucky with Liberty in 2016...

Any Hokies want to weigh in on this decision?
07-31-2012 01:33 PM
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RE: VT adds Liberty to their schedule... really?
(07-31-2012 01:33 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  http://hamptonroads.com/2012/07/report-h...eries-year

Quote:The Hokies adjusted their slate to fit the league's new scheduling plan, pushing back a series against East Carolina that was set to start in 2014 and replacing Western Kentucky with Liberty in 2016...

Any Hokies want to weigh in on this decision?

I'm guessing that Liberty is a cheaper buyout if we do change our scheduling philosophy as alluded to.
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RE: VT adds Liberty to their schedule... really?
Quote:The Hokies' non-conference schedule in the next few years looks like this:

2013: vs. Alabama in Atlanta, vs. Marshall, vs. Western Carolina
2014: vs. William and Mary, at Ohio State, vs. Western Michigan
2015: vs. Furman, vs. Ohio State, vs. East Carolina
2016: vs. Wisconsin, vs. Liberty, at East Carolina

So we have one good game every year. Marshall and ECU will be of moderate interest to our fans. The others we are playing for the money obviously.
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RE: VT adds Liberty to their schedule... really?
(07-31-2012 01:42 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
Quote:The Hokies' non-conference schedule in the next few years looks like this:

2013: vs. Alabama in Atlanta, vs. Marshall, vs. Western Carolina
2014: vs. William and Mary, at Ohio State, vs. Western Michigan
2015: vs. Furman, vs. Ohio State, vs. East Carolina
2016: vs. Wisconsin, vs. Liberty, at East Carolina

So we have one good game every year. Marshall and ECU will be of moderate interest to our fans. The others we are playing for the money obviously.

That W&M game is going to be a blood bath...
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RE: VT adds Liberty to their schedule... really?
(07-31-2012 01:40 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(07-31-2012 01:33 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  http://hamptonroads.com/2012/07/report-h...eries-year

Quote:The Hokies adjusted their slate to fit the league's new scheduling plan, pushing back a series against East Carolina that was set to start in 2014 and replacing Western Kentucky with Liberty in 2016...

Any Hokies want to weigh in on this decision?

I'm guessing that Liberty is a cheaper buyout if we do change our scheduling philosophy as alluded to.

If I'm reading this correctly, you're saying that they're a cheap placeholder until something better comes along?
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RE: VT adds Liberty to their schedule... really?
(07-31-2012 01:48 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  
(07-31-2012 01:40 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(07-31-2012 01:33 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  http://hamptonroads.com/2012/07/report-h...eries-year

Quote:The Hokies adjusted their slate to fit the league's new scheduling plan, pushing back a series against East Carolina that was set to start in 2014 and replacing Western Kentucky with Liberty in 2016...

Any Hokies want to weigh in on this decision?

I'm guessing that Liberty is a cheaper buyout if we do change our scheduling philosophy as alluded to.

If I'm reading this correctly, you're saying that they're a cheap placeholder until something better comes along?

Probably. We play one FCS team each year anyway. So replacing a horrible FBS team like WKU with an in state FCS team is probably cheaper and serves the same purpose.

I'm not sure that strength of schedule will be an issue with this schedule though. So it probably will not be changed.

You have to figure that if we are even in the position to be worrying about the SOS it means that we had a pretty good year. That likely means an appearance in the championship game. That'd be 11 BCS level games at that point.
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RE: VT adds Liberty to their schedule... really?
Pitt has been scheduling one FCS school every year for a little while now. The 2012 FB season will suck because of WVU/TCU bailing on the BE for 2012, which leaves Pitt with 2 FCS schools on the schedule in Youngstown St and Gardner Webb.
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RE: VT adds Liberty to their schedule... really?
It's a short drive.....limited travel expenses for the Flames.
IIRC Liberty opens at Wake Forest this year.
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RE: VT adds Liberty to their schedule... really?
IIRC, Clemson and South Carolina have a similar scheduling requirement in that they have to host one of the in-state FCS schools each season.

I have no problem with VT hosting Liberty...
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RE: VT adds Liberty to their schedule... really?
(07-31-2012 02:44 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  IIRC, Clemson and South Carolina have a similar scheduling requirement in that they have to host one of the in-state FCS schools each season.

I have no problem with VT hosting Liberty...

We don't have to host an in state FCS.

We usually try to get one that is somewhat local. We had northeastern a few yrs ago though.

At VT, the deciding factor is money. We are notoriously cheap. So we get the cheapest opponent we can.
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RE: VT adds Liberty to their schedule... really?
(07-31-2012 03:04 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(07-31-2012 02:44 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  IIRC, Clemson and South Carolina have a similar scheduling requirement in that they have to host one of the in-state FCS schools each season.

I have no problem with VT hosting Liberty...

We don't have to host an in state FCS.

We usually try to get one that is somewhat local. We had northeastern a few yrs ago though.

At VT, the deciding factor is money. We are notoriously cheap. So we get the cheapest opponent we can.

As a Hokie, I like the thought of hosting an in-state FCS team. Of course, I can understand JMU and Richmond not being on our schedule. But if we're gonna throw $400k to a school, why not a VA one, like Liberty /William & Mary / Norfolk State - as long as it counts toward bowl eligibility?
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RE: VT adds Liberty to their schedule... really?
(07-31-2012 03:32 PM)TopayVT Wrote:  
(07-31-2012 03:04 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(07-31-2012 02:44 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  IIRC, Clemson and South Carolina have a similar scheduling requirement in that they have to host one of the in-state FCS schools each season.

I have no problem with VT hosting Liberty...

We don't have to host an in state FCS.

We usually try to get one that is somewhat local. We had northeastern a few yrs ago though.

At VT, the deciding factor is money. We are notoriously cheap. So we get the cheapest opponent we can.

As a Hokie, I like the thought of hosting an in-state FCS team. Of course, I can understand JMU and Richmond not being on our schedule. But if we're gonna throw $400k to a school, why not a VA one, like Liberty /William & Mary / Norfolk State - as long as it counts toward bowl eligibility?

Schools like W&M, Richmond, JMU etc can usually make more money playing another FBS team.

It isn't that we wouldn't schedule the in state schools. We just won't pay the going rate for them.
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RE: VT adds Liberty to their schedule... really?
(07-31-2012 03:41 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(07-31-2012 03:32 PM)TopayVT Wrote:  
(07-31-2012 03:04 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(07-31-2012 02:44 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  IIRC, Clemson and South Carolina have a similar scheduling requirement in that they have to host one of the in-state FCS schools each season.

I have no problem with VT hosting Liberty...

We don't have to host an in state FCS.

We usually try to get one that is somewhat local. We had northeastern a few yrs ago though.

At VT, the deciding factor is money. We are notoriously cheap. So we get the cheapest opponent we can.

As a Hokie, I like the thought of hosting an in-state FCS team. Of course, I can understand JMU and Richmond not being on our schedule. But if we're gonna throw $400k to a school, why not a VA one, like Liberty /William & Mary / Norfolk State - as long as it counts toward bowl eligibility?

Schools like W&M, Richmond, JMU etc can usually make more money playing another FBS team.

It isn't that we wouldn't schedule the in state schools. We just won't pay the going rate for them.

There has been some pushback from the VTech LGBT community about how VTech isn't properly shunning Liberty like it should.
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RE: VT adds Liberty to their schedule... really?
(07-31-2012 04:30 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  
(07-31-2012 03:41 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(07-31-2012 03:32 PM)TopayVT Wrote:  
(07-31-2012 03:04 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(07-31-2012 02:44 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  IIRC, Clemson and South Carolina have a similar scheduling requirement in that they have to host one of the in-state FCS schools each season.

I have no problem with VT hosting Liberty...

We don't have to host an in state FCS.

We usually try to get one that is somewhat local. We had northeastern a few yrs ago though.

At VT, the deciding factor is money. We are notoriously cheap. So we get the cheapest opponent we can.

As a Hokie, I like the thought of hosting an in-state FCS team. Of course, I can understand JMU and Richmond not being on our schedule. But if we're gonna throw $400k to a school, why not a VA one, like Liberty /William & Mary / Norfolk State - as long as it counts toward bowl eligibility?

Schools like W&M, Richmond, JMU etc can usually make more money playing another FBS team.

It isn't that we wouldn't schedule the in state schools. We just won't pay the going rate for them.

There has been some pushback from the VTech LGBT community about how VTech isn't properly shunning Liberty like it should.

Really?

I doubt that. So far I haven't even heard that they are protesting the Chic fil a on campus.
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RE: VT adds Liberty to their schedule... really?
(07-31-2012 03:32 PM)TopayVT Wrote:  
(07-31-2012 03:04 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(07-31-2012 02:44 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  IIRC, Clemson and South Carolina have a similar scheduling requirement in that they have to host one of the in-state FCS schools each season.

I have no problem with VT hosting Liberty...

We don't have to host an in state FCS.

We usually try to get one that is somewhat local. We had northeastern a few yrs ago though.

At VT, the deciding factor is money. We are notoriously cheap. So we get the cheapest opponent we can.

As a Hokie, I like the thought of hosting an in-state FCS team. Of course, I can understand JMU and Richmond not being on our schedule. But if we're gonna throw $400k to a school, why not a VA one, like Liberty /William & Mary / Norfolk State - as long as it counts toward bowl eligibility?

Totally agree with that philosophy. A local team might even buy a few tickets, plus they can get more benefit from the check since it wouldn't be chewed up on travel costs.
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RE: VT adds Liberty to their schedule... really?
(07-31-2012 04:46 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(07-31-2012 04:30 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  
(07-31-2012 03:41 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(07-31-2012 03:32 PM)TopayVT Wrote:  
(07-31-2012 03:04 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  We don't have to host an in state FCS.

We usually try to get one that is somewhat local. We had northeastern a few yrs ago though.

At VT, the deciding factor is money. We are notoriously cheap. So we get the cheapest opponent we can.

As a Hokie, I like the thought of hosting an in-state FCS team. Of course, I can understand JMU and Richmond not being on our schedule. But if we're gonna throw $400k to a school, why not a VA one, like Liberty /William & Mary / Norfolk State - as long as it counts toward bowl eligibility?

Schools like W&M, Richmond, JMU etc can usually make more money playing another FBS team.

It isn't that we wouldn't schedule the in state schools. We just won't pay the going rate for them.

There has been some pushback from the VTech LGBT community about how VTech isn't properly shunning Liberty like it should.

Really?

I doubt that. So far I haven't even heard that they are protesting the Chic fil a on campus.

http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2012/0...liberty-u/
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RE: VT adds Liberty to their schedule... really?
(07-31-2012 07:09 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  
(07-31-2012 04:46 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(07-31-2012 04:30 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  
(07-31-2012 03:41 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(07-31-2012 03:32 PM)TopayVT Wrote:  As a Hokie, I like the thought of hosting an in-state FCS team. Of course, I can understand JMU and Richmond not being on our schedule. But if we're gonna throw $400k to a school, why not a VA one, like Liberty /William & Mary / Norfolk State - as long as it counts toward bowl eligibility?

Schools like W&M, Richmond, JMU etc can usually make more money playing another FBS team.

It isn't that we wouldn't schedule the in state schools. We just won't pay the going rate for them.

There has been some pushback from the VTech LGBT community about how VTech isn't properly shunning Liberty like it should.

Really?

I doubt that. So far I haven't even heard that they are protesting the Chic fil a on campus.

http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2012/0...liberty-u/

I'm not sure I really agree with this. I know several gays that go to or have gone to Liberty.

It is just a football game.

Are we prepared to turn down invites to the Chick fil a bowl and cancel the game with Alabama as well?
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RE: VT adds Liberty to their schedule... really?
Replacing WKU for Liberty? Err. Geez. I mean, at least now you know it'll be a blowout. WKU's been doing fairly well recently, though I don't think the Toppers' success as of late played a major part in the decision.
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RE: VT adds Liberty to their schedule... really?
VT is entitled to a couple of cupcakes just like all the SEC teams. Lets see, they played USC, Alabama, and LSU all in years they won national championships. They are scheduled to play Alabama next year and Wisconsin and Ohio State are on the schedule. VT isnt afraid to schedule tough games out of conference against top competition.
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RE: VT adds Liberty to their schedule... really?
Boise State.....Nebraska.....
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