http://247sports.com/Season/2013-Footbal...erence=ACC
By average player ratings.

ACC
1.)Florida State
2.)Miami
3.)Clemson
4.)Virginia Tech
5.)North Carolina
6.)Virginia
7.)Maryland
8.)Georgia Tech
9.)NC State
10.)Syracuse
11.)Pitt
12.)Duke
13.)Boston College
14.)Wake Forest

National
13.)Florida State
14.)Miami
16.)Clemson
17.)Virginia Tech
21.)North Carolina
23.)Virginia
40.)Maryland
44.)Georgia Tech
53.)NC State
55.)Syracuse
60.)Pitt
62.)Duke
69.)Boston College
74.)Wake Forest

Now if only the conference finished like that I would be very, very pleased

(08-22-2012 08:59 PM)mtsufan561 Wrote:  Now if only the conference finished like that I would be very, very pleased

That's how the conference has been finishing. Multiple teams 11-25 with no one in the top 10. That's our problem and why we're viewed as being a weak league.

(08-22-2012 09:40 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(08-22-2012 08:59 PM)mtsufan561 Wrote:  Now if only the conference finished like that I would be very, very pleased

That's how the conference has been finishing. Multiple teams 11-25 with no one in the top 10. That's our problem and why we're viewed as being a weak league.

I was referring more to the ACC standings than the Overall Top 25. I'd of course prefer to have several top 10 teams (FSU, Clemson, VT this year??) and many more in the top 25. You're absolutely right.

While we still have a couple highly regarded prospects that we are awaiting decisions on, including a couple we would "oversign" for....we aren't going to move up all that much more because we are taking only around 20 recruits this year.

2014 will be about the same unless we have some attrition, or players declare early. I fully expect a little of both with the way the roster is slanted more towards sophs and freshmen this year.

I can understand why players are wavering on Pitt. But 60th in the Nation is pathetic even if we was still a BE team long term. I think after the wins start coming(hopefully) so will the recruits.

All 14 teams need to move up about 10 spots. Then we'd have a truly competitive football conference again.

True true... Pitt needs to move up around 35 slots at least.

(08-24-2012 04:42 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  True true... Pitt needs to move up around 35 slots at least.

Ok, I wasn't gonna dog you like that, but YES - 60th is pitiful.

(08-24-2012 03:21 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  I can understand why players are wavering on Pitt. But 60th in the Nation is pathetic even if we was still a BE team long term. I think after the wins start coming(hopefully) so will the recruits.

I listed the schools by average player ratings. Pitt is severely hurt by having a kicker and punter in the class. By 247's point system Pitt is ranked 43rd.

The reason I listed it by average player rating is because their point system is screwed up right now. Oregon has 8 commits, four 4* and four 3*, with an average player rating of 89.63. Yet they're ranked 74th in the nation. Stanford has 7 commits, four 4* three 3*, average player rating of 90.57. They're 80th in the nation. Etc.

(08-24-2012 03:54 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  

(08-24-2012 03:21 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  I can understand why players are wavering on Pitt. But 60th in the Nation is pathetic even if we was still a BE team long term. I think after the wins start coming(hopefully) so will the recruits.

I listed the schools by average player ratings. Pitt is severely hurt by having a kicker and punter in the class. By 247's point system Pitt is ranked 43rd.

The reason I listed it by average player rating is because their point system is screwed up right now. Oregon has 8 commits, four 4* and four 3*, with an average player rating of 89.63. Yet they're ranked 74th in the nation. Stanford has 7 commits, four 4* three 3*, average player rating of 90.57. They're 80th in the nation. Etc.

I don't see how you consider that screwed up. If Stanford had 8 commits like Oregon and still had the lead in the average rating column, they'd be ahead of Oregon. Like basically EVERY recruiting rating, they take into consideration both class SIZE and class AVERAGE.

(08-22-2012 08:59 PM)mtsufan561 Wrote:  Now if only the conference finished like that I would be very, very pleased

It'll be a few years at least before Miami finishes that high. Jmo.

(08-24-2012 11:03 PM)JustAnotherName Wrote:  

(08-24-2012 03:54 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  

(08-24-2012 03:21 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  I can understand why players are wavering on Pitt. But 60th in the Nation is pathetic even if we was still a BE team long term. I think after the wins start coming(hopefully) so will the recruits.

I listed the schools by average player ratings. Pitt is severely hurt by having a kicker and punter in the class. By 247's point system Pitt is ranked 43rd.

The reason I listed it by average player rating is because their point system is screwed up right now. Oregon has 8 commits, four 4* and four 3*, with an average player rating of 89.63. Yet they're ranked 74th in the nation. Stanford has 7 commits, four 4* three 3*, average player rating of 90.57. They're 80th in the nation. Etc.

I don't see how you consider that screwed up. If Stanford had 8 commits like Oregon and still had the lead in the average rating column, they'd be ahead of Oregon. Like basically EVERY recruiting rating, they take into consideration both class SIZE and class AVERAGE.

Man to me it doesn't matter. Either way Pitt's class is sub par and not good enough esp with us about to join the ACC. A LOT can happen between now and February though.