(11-05-2012 12:47 AM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  So Boise going to it's 3rd straight (at best) Las Vegas Bowl is better for the nBE than Boise getting the crap kicked out of themselves in the Orange or Sugar.

Whatever you two are smoking, please pass it this way. It must be some damn good stuff.

You're not even original.
So Boise does not go to the Orange to play Florida State. Instead they probably go to the Vegas Bowl and play USC or Stanford. That's a wash. FSU is nothing special. Gotta hype someone in the ACC, might as well be them this year.

(11-05-2012 12:59 AM)War Torn Ruston Wrote:  

(11-05-2012 12:47 AM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  So Boise going to it's 3rd straight (at best) Las Vegas Bowl is better for the nBE than Boise getting the crap kicked out of themselves in the Orange or Sugar.

Whatever you two are smoking, please pass it this way. It must be some damn good stuff.

You're not even original.
So Boise does not go to the Orange to play Florida State. Instead they probably go to the Vegas Bowl and play USC or Stanford. That's a wash. FSU is nothing special. Gotta hype someone in the ACC, might as well be them this year.

probably won't be USC- they'll go to the Alamo Bowl as the top team outside the BCS(primarily because they haven't been to a bowl in a few years).
next bowl is Holiday- right now projected as UCLA.
next bowl after that is Sun- right now Stanford
then it's Las Vegas- seen Washington there.....

now, if Oregon St doesn't qualify, they probably go Sun and Las Vegas gets Stanford.....

(11-05-2012 12:53 AM)stever20 Wrote:  If Boise lost 70-33 to FSU, you know what folks would be saying about the Big East.....

Probably about what they are saying now. Nothing.

(11-05-2012 12:59 AM)War Torn Ruston Wrote:  

(11-05-2012 12:47 AM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  So Boise going to it's 3rd straight (at best) Las Vegas Bowl is better for the nBE than Boise getting the crap kicked out of themselves in the Orange or Sugar.

Whatever you two are smoking, please pass it this way. It must be some damn good stuff.

You're not even original.
So Boise does not go to the Orange to play Florida State. Instead they probably go to the Vegas Bowl and play USC or Stanford. That's a wash. FSU is nothing special. Gotta hype someone in the ACC, might as well be them this year.

If you were half as smart as you think you are you'd see the difference.

That Cinderella slipper Boise has enjoyed for most of the last decade has an expiration date. Just ask Fresno State. They had it before you, then Utah.

I know some folks would say "What about BYU?" but unlike BYU Boise doesn't have a nationwide religion to back them up. Fresno was in the 1990's what Boise was during the 2000's, and what the next non-power 5 team will be in the 2010's. Every year y'all aren't in the big boy bowls is another notch y'all fall. The bloom is pretty close to falling off the bloom as it is, what with 3 years of Boise pissing away every advantage they had over their conference mates by choking away games in the regular season.

Depending on how the divisions in the nBE are next year I could see Boise finishing anywhere between 1st and 4th. Y'all can't sneak up on anybody anymore, and there is a ton of tape on your schemes.

(11-05-2012 01:24 AM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  

(11-05-2012 12:59 AM)War Torn Ruston Wrote:  

(11-05-2012 12:47 AM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  So Boise going to it's 3rd straight (at best) Las Vegas Bowl is better for the nBE than Boise getting the crap kicked out of themselves in the Orange or Sugar.

Whatever you two are smoking, please pass it this way. It must be some damn good stuff.

You're not even original.
So Boise does not go to the Orange to play Florida State. Instead they probably go to the Vegas Bowl and play USC or Stanford. That's a wash. FSU is nothing special. Gotta hype someone in the ACC, might as well be them this year.

If you were half as smart as you think you are you'd see the difference.

That Cinderella slipper Boise has enjoyed for most of the last decade has an expiration date. Just ask Fresno State. They had it before you, then Utah.

I know some folks would say "What about BYU?" but unlike BYU Boise doesn't have a nationwide religion to back them up. Fresno was in the 1990's what Boise was during the 2000's, and what the next non-power 5 team will be in the 2010's. Every year y'all aren't in the big boy bowls is another notch y'all fall. The bloom is pretty close to falling off the bloom as it is, what with 3 years of Boise pissing away every advantage they had over their conference mates by choking away games in the regular season.

Depending on how the divisions in the nBE are next year I could see Boise finishing anywhere between 1st and 4th. Y'all can't sneak up on anybody anymore, and there is a ton of tape on your schemes.

You mean choking like Clemson?
Fact is you hate the Big East and Boise State. I really never see you say anything good about either one of them. So talking to you about them is probably pointless. If you wanna believe the Big East sucks, Boise's being good is over with, blah blah blah, then have at it.
I personally just think your are an idiot like you buddy tallgrass.
The only fact you need to know while you are running your mouth is Boise State has accomplished more in the last decade than both teams under your name.
So you can believe Boise is on its way down, But even after losing 17 starters from last year including 8 players that are on NFL rosters, they would still beat ECU and Clemson's ass.
Go waste your time trying to troll and talk down about the Big East to someone else. It won't work with me. Better yet put me on ignore. The fewer moronic post I have to read the better.

(11-05-2012 03:34 AM)War Torn Ruston Wrote:  You mean choking like Clemson?

Talk to me when you have a crystal football in your trophy case.

Quote:Fact is you hate the Big East and Boise State.

No, in reality I don't hate either. What I am is a realist. Starting in 2013 the best hope the nBE has is for Louisville to go on a huge run, or USF to find some semblance of power. Boise can't carry the BE water getting the Pac12 rejects, and as the last 18 years have shown Houston and SMU can't climb the mountain and overcome a second rate conference from the big dogs in Texas in recruiting.

Quote:I really never see you say anything good about either one of them. So talking to you about them is probably pointless. If you wanna believe the Big East sucks, Boise's being good is over with, blah blah blah, then have at it.

Well, to be honest what good is there to say about the nBE?

Louisville has a good thing going, but as they have showed the past is it dependent on the coaching staff?

USF is a wasteland. The list of out of state schools that can outrecruit USF in state is at least double, if not triple the number of in-state schools who can outrecruit them.

Rutgers is who knows.

UCF has a coach who is close to either retirement or being run out on a rail, in addition to being in USF's shoes recruiting.

UConn is a joke, as is Temple.

Memphis is even more of a joke.

San Diego State has potential, but they have had potential the past 40 years. Other than in the late 70's they have yet to live up to that potential.

We are left with Boise.

Helluva run. Two BCS bowls in 3 years. Sad thing is the latest was three seasons ago. Eventually the slipper doesn't fit anymore.

Quote:So you can believe Boise is on its way down, But even after losing 17 starters from last year including 8 players that are on NFL rosters, they would still beat ECU and Clemson's ass.

I have seen enough of Boise this year to say that ECU would be in the game with you till the end.

Clemson would have 35 points on that sorry excuse of a defense you field before you could adjust.

(11-05-2012 04:09 AM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  UConn is a joke, as is Temple.

Memphis is even more of a joke.

You're really in no position to be talking about jokes... Especially when they pertain to taking a Big East school lightly. UCONN came closer to beating WVU last year than ACC Champion Clemson.



The fact that DUKE is one of the ACC's better teams this year speaks VOLUMES.

So, please...

We both know that Pitt and Cuse were added for the same reason that Temple and Memphis were. And, the entire country is laughing at the joke of the ACC picking the low hanging fruit off the Big East football tree.

World dumbest threads:

1. It doesn't matter, the BIG EAST Champion is going to a BCS Bowl Game regardless of overall rankings....it has that since it is an AQ League...

2. Going forward if the 7th Bowl Game comes about it is no secret it is going to me slanted toward the BIG EAST. The thing is can the game generate the $$$$ needed to make the game possible...it not about Non AQ/AQ anymore but $$$ generated and being in the Semifinal Rotation.

Fact of the matter is this....if offered any of the 5 remaining BIG EAST schools would leave for the other current AQ Leagues yesterday...the funny part is "some C-USA Fans" know that they would leave C-USA for the BIG EAST as well but are either pissed that they never got the invite/current C-USA schools left them or that the BIG EAST continues to pass over them.

This will be resolved soon...my question now is will the BIG EAST/ESPN extend the Exclusives Talks again @ the end of business today...if they do than something up and maybe ESPN is about to open up the wallet.

(11-05-2012 05:51 AM)Maize Wrote:  World dumbest threads:

1. It doesn't matter, the BIG EAST Champion is going to a BCS Bowl Game regardless of overall rankings....it has that since it is an AQ League...

2. Going forward if the 7th Bowl Game comes about it is no secret it is going to me slanted toward the BIG EAST. The thing is can the game generate the $$$$ needed to make the game possible...it not about Non AQ/AQ anymore but $$$ generated and being in the Semifinal Rotation.

Fact of the matter is this....if offered any of the 5 remaining BIG EAST schools would leave for the other current AQ Leagues yesterday...the funny part is "some C-USA Fans" know that they would leave C-USA for the BIG EAST as well but are either pissed that they never got the invite/current C-USA schools left them or that the BIG EAST continues to pass over them.

This will be resolved soon...my question now is will the BIG EAST/ESPN extend the Exclusives Talks again @ the end of business today...if they do than something up and maybe ESPN is about to open up the wallet.

Perception is reality. The Nbe has two years of continuing its provisional BCS status. For the 7 invited schools, this means only one year of provisional BCS status. And, looking at current records, none of the invitees have any hope of winning the Nbe championship.

The question for the originial Nbe schools--Louisville, Rutgers, UConn, Cincy, and USE--is will recruiting hold up without the provisional BCS status? And, again, whether a school is BCS or NonAQ, it comes down to the coach. But, obviously, ACC schools Boston College, Syracuse, Pitt, and Maryland will now use that BCS club in northeast recruiting.

Regarding USF, the question is do UCF and USF now divide up and dilute the existing Florida recruiting pool? Throw in a FIU that will provide some competition, with the enhanced base of CUSA conference platform.

For Louisville, I think they will be just fine. UL has an excellent coach and the Cards, not Boise, should dominate Nbe. Kentucky has just fired their coach and, to a large degree, what happens there will have an impact on Louisville recruiting within the state. Louisville recruits Florida heavily it appears and that is the reason for the FIU/UL series. But now Louisiville will get more competition in the state with UCF and some from FIU. But, again, I look to UL to maintain its strong program, in fact, make it even better in the future. This is the program that will dominate Nbe.

Texas, Louisiana, and Oklahoma. A whole lot of increased competition for recruits with UTSA, UNT, and LaTech stepping up with better tv and bowl exposure via CUSA affiliation.

Tennessee. A MTU poster stated on CUSA board that MTU officials have been told that they are the 15th school with the 16th school to be FAU or WKU. More recruiting competition in Tennessee, it appears. MTU will be more competitive recruiting with the tv and bowls of CUSA.

Our recruiting will hold up because like TCU when they were in the MWC we live off 3* Players and as long as Charlie Strong is our coach and if the 7th Game comes off I like our chances of keeping him unless a Florida/Georgia comes open.

As going foward if we do what we should do the rest of the season we will enter 2013 not having the goal of winning the BIG EAST but the goal of the BCS Title...may be a pipe dream but we only lose 3 Sr. Starters and Bridgewater is only a So.

But your right, if the BIG EAST holds the main threat is not Boise...actually the main threat is Cincinnati...they get a lot of players that Ohio State can't get and players that are B1G quality.

(11-05-2012 12:09 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  These threads are getting ridiculous.

IMO the entire CR forum has gotten pretty ridiculous at times. These threads are just one of the symptoms...

(11-05-2012 09:31 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(11-05-2012 12:09 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  These threads are getting ridiculous.

IMO the entire CR forum has gotten pretty ridiculous at times. These threads are just one of the symptoms...

Bit...different topic, will you guys have a change in your defensive assistants during the offseason?

(11-05-2012 08:10 AM)Maize Wrote:  Our recruiting will hold up because like TCU when they were in the MWC we live off 3* Players and as long as Charlie Strong is our coach and if the 7th Game comes off I like our chances of keeping him unless a Florida/Georgia comes open.

As going foward if we do what we should do the rest of the season we will enter 2013 not having the goal of winning the BIG EAST but the goal of the BCS Title...may be a pipe dream but we only lose 3 Sr. Starters and Bridgewater is only a So.

But your right, if the BIG EAST holds the main threat is not Boise...actually the main threat is Cincinnati...they get a lot of players that Ohio State can't get and players that are B1G quality.

I am going to take your "may be a pipe dream" statement and say it another way. Former Okla St Coach Les Miles was asked by a Daily Oklahoman reporter if Okla State could compete for a national title (the implication, undoubtedly, was 7 time National Champ OU donw the road). Tough question for Miles. A yes would invite ridicule. A no would disallusion Cowboy fans, kill their excitement and support, and, in a way, also invite a (different kind) of ridicule. So he answered "Our goal is to win the conference championship, and, if we win the conference championship, anything is in play."

For UL, this year is a also a set up season for bigger and better things next season, although this too is a great season developing for Cards.

(11-05-2012 10:03 AM)Tallgrass Wrote:  

(11-05-2012 08:10 AM)Maize Wrote:  Our recruiting will hold up because like TCU when they were in the MWC we live off 3* Players and as long as Charlie Strong is our coach and if the 7th Game comes off I like our chances of keeping him unless a Florida/Georgia comes open.

As going foward if we do what we should do the rest of the season we will enter 2013 not having the goal of winning the BIG EAST but the goal of the BCS Title...may be a pipe dream but we only lose 3 Sr. Starters and Bridgewater is only a So.

But your right, if the BIG EAST holds the main threat is not Boise...actually the main threat is Cincinnati...they get a lot of players that Ohio State can't get and players that are B1G quality.

I am going to take your "may be a pipe dream" statement and say it another way. Former Okla St Coach Les Miles was asked by a Daily Oklahoman reporter if Okla State could compete for a national title (the implication, undoubtedly, was 7 time National Champ OU donw the road). Tough question for Miles. A yes would invite ridicule. A no would disallusion Cowboy fans, kill their excitement and support, and, in a way, also invite a (different kind) of ridicule. So he answered "Our goal is to win the conference championship, and, if we win the conference championship, anything is in play."

For UL, this year is a also a set up season for bigger and better things next season, although this too is a great season developing for Cards.

Well, it depends on the situation...the BIG EAST in 2006 and 2007 missed out on Golden Opportunities to win BCS Titles:

1. Louisville lose a late season game @ Rutgers...if we would have won out that year we would have been playing Ohio State instead of the SEC Champ and believe me I love our chances against the Buckeyes that year...also the Michael Bush injury didn't help but even without him.

2. WVU in 2007, for some reason they fell asleep against Pitt...we saw what they did in the Fiesta Bowl as just a BCS Rep to Oklahoma...love their chances against Ohio State that year as well.

But going into the 2013 year if we play this year out we will be in position to get into the BIG GAME for 2013 due to our likely Preseason Ranking.

(11-05-2012 09:31 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(11-05-2012 12:09 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  These threads are getting ridiculous.

IMO the entire CR forum has gotten pretty ridiculous at times. These threads are just one of the symptoms...

This board is named the "Realignment Board." The goal of each and every conference adding teams is to enhance the quality of teams, increase tv coverage, gain more tv dollars, and push more of its conference teams into BCS bowls. The SOS will now become more important as BCS rewrites the rules.

Accordingly, this thread falls well within the stated topic of this "Realignment Board."

I don't know why people get frustrated. I don't go to certain boards because they don't interest me. I also don't click onto certain topics because they don't interest me. I also don't click on certain posters, some because I don't feel they are accurate, some because they have different interests than mine.

For these reasons, I really don't understand why any poster should get frustrated.

One realignment board has been established by NCAABBS to serve all conferences. At the top of the CUSA board, CUSA posters are instructed that no realignment are allowed on the CUSA board and that the "Realignment Board" has been established for realignment posts. And CUSA posters are instructed to put their realignment threads, analysis, opinions, whatever here on this board.

(11-05-2012 10:11 AM)Tallgrass Wrote:  

(11-05-2012 09:31 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(11-05-2012 12:09 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  These threads are getting ridiculous.

IMO the entire CR forum has gotten pretty ridiculous at times. These threads are just one of the symptoms...

This board is named the "Realignment Board." The goal of each and every conference adding teams is to enhance the quality of teams, increase tv coverage, gain more tv dollars, and push more of its conference teams into BCS bowls. The SOS will now become more important as BCS rewrites the rules.

Accordingly, this thread falls well within the stated topic of this "Realignment Board."

I don't know why people get frustrated. I don't go to certain boards because they don't interest me. I also don't click onto certain topics because they don't interest me. I also don't click on certain posters, some because I don't feel they are accurate, some because they have different interests than mine.

For these reasons, I really don't understand why any poster should get frustrated.

Tallgrass, this board is named the Conference Realignment board. Get it right, dude...

As for what you do and don't read, it sounds like you take a good approach to things. But not everyone is as logical in their thought processes...

However, that doesn't change the fact of the ridiculousness of many posts in almost every thread, at one point or another. Some people are a lot more touchy, due to the realities of realignment to date. It all depends on which side of the cutoff line your school of choice resides...

(11-05-2012 10:21 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(11-05-2012 10:11 AM)Tallgrass Wrote:  

(11-05-2012 09:31 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(11-05-2012 12:09 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  These threads are getting ridiculous.

IMO the entire CR forum has gotten pretty ridiculous at times. These threads are just one of the symptoms...

This board is named the "Realignment Board." The goal of each and every conference adding teams is to enhance the quality of teams, increase tv coverage, gain more tv dollars, and push more of its conference teams into BCS bowls. The SOS will now become more important as BCS rewrites the rules.

Accordingly, this thread falls well within the stated topic of this "Realignment Board."

I don't know why people get frustrated. I don't go to certain boards because they don't interest me. I also don't click onto certain topics because they don't interest me. I also don't click on certain posters, some because I don't feel they are accurate, some because they have different interests than mine.

For these reasons, I really don't understand why any poster should get frustrated.

Tallgrass, this board is named the Conference Realignment board. Get it right, dude...

As for what you do and don't read, it sounds like you take a good approach to things. But not everyone is as logical in their thought processes...

However, that doesn't change the fact of the ridiculousness of many posts in almost every thread, at one point or another. Some people are a lot more touchy, due to the realities of realignment to date. It all depends on which side of the cutoff line your school of choice resides...

I edited my post to remind all that the CUSA Board Moderators have instructed CUSA posters to take their all their realignment posts and put them on this Realignment board. Realignment posts, whether CUSA positive or CUSA negative, are not allowed by the Moderators on the CUSA board. That is the problem.

The solution is to have a Realignment Board for each conference. Otherwise, it is what it is. What this board isn't is a Nbe Cheer Leading board; that can be done on the Nbe board.

The B12 took two Nbe schools, WVA and TCU. As a B12 fan, that makes me feel great. The Nbe took four CUSA schools and that makes me feel down hearted. But it is what it is. So, as you say, whoever's ox is being gored, they will have a different view of each post, positive or negative. It is time for all posters on this board to accept this reality and not get into name calling if a different opinion is expressed.

Here is the problem with the conference realignment board.
There is an open door policy for idiots like tallgrass. Hell miko was banned from this board and the big East board but at least miko was original and actually thought about how he wanted to be a pain in the ass. Tallgrass makes no effort into hiding he is a pot stirring dick.
Yet if I call him out my post just vanishes in thin air? Weird. I guess I should learn how to troll without getting in trouble.

(11-05-2012 10:21 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(11-05-2012 10:11 AM)Tallgrass Wrote:  

(11-05-2012 09:31 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(11-05-2012 12:09 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  These threads are getting ridiculous.

IMO the entire CR forum has gotten pretty ridiculous at times. These threads are just one of the symptoms...

This board is named the "Realignment Board." The goal of each and every conference adding teams is to enhance the quality of teams, increase tv coverage, gain more tv dollars, and push more of its conference teams into BCS bowls. The SOS will now become more important as BCS rewrites the rules.

Accordingly, this thread falls well within the stated topic of this "Realignment Board."

I don't know why people get frustrated. I don't go to certain boards because they don't interest me. I also don't click onto certain topics because they don't interest me. I also don't click on certain posters, some because I don't feel they are accurate, some because they have different interests than mine.

For these reasons, I really don't understand why any poster should get frustrated.

Tallgrass, this board is named the Conference Realignment board. Get it right, dude...

As for what you do and don't read, it sounds like you take a good approach to things. But not everyone is as logical in their thought processes...

However, that doesn't change the fact of the ridiculousness of many posts in almost every thread, at one point or another. Some people are a lot more touchy, due to the realities of realignment to date. It all depends on which side of the cutoff line your school of choice resides...

It may not be my place to say this but I think moderation needs to stop these threads regardless of how much traffic it brings. This is smack talk not conference realignment. Tallgrass will make a post about Big 12 teams making bowl games with the intention of targeting the Big East.

Post about TV deals or the BYU to Big East situation is realignment even if there are debates. Positing about (insert Big East team here) losing is smack talk and is bias to be allowed on this board. Once again not calling out any mods, I'm just saying. Heck, even the threads about Liberty and App moving up are real realignment threads.

(11-05-2012 09:31 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(11-05-2012 12:09 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  These threads are getting ridiculous.

IMO the entire CR forum has gotten pretty ridiculous at times. These threads are just one of the symptoms...

Seconded. These are VA threads.