Yep, I think you are right, Old Dominion Navy. NIU's win gave the BCS coaching cartel all they needed to keep the non AQ conferences out of the BCS this year...too bad as I think NIU and their high powered offense would give some BCS teams a scare in a bowl game. Oh well....
(11-30-2012 11:56 PM)westernwilly Wrote: That game had me so ticked, I could not watch football for the rest of the year!
Don't know if you recall, but the 2001 MAC championship game, Marshall had a 23-0 lead after the first play of the second quarter and ended up losing to Toledo, thanks in part to a botched special teams play. I thought I was gonna be the same way, then the 2001 64-61 Marshall-ECU bowl game happened, so I got over it.
(11-30-2012 06:50 PM)lmckay92 Wrote: Miss playing in these. Can't believe that Kent St. would ever be in BCS contention.
1999 MAC Championship. First one I attended:
That game had me so ticked, I could not watch football for the rest of the year!
It was on ESPN Classic yesterday.. I always thought Gary Darnell would surface again as a head coach. But it's not happened. Im suprised CMU or EMU haven't looked at him.
(11-30-2012 06:50 PM)lmckay92 Wrote: Miss playing in these. Can't believe that Kent St. would ever be in BCS contention.
1999 MAC Championship. First one I attended:
That game had me so ticked, I could not watch football for the rest of the year!
It was on ESPN Classic yesterday.. I always thought Gary Darnell would surface again as a head coach. But it's not happened. Im suprised CMU or EMU haven't looked at him.
He recruited too many thugs and morons that could not make the grade. He drove our team into the ground.......nobody was going to give him another chance.
That said, I liked him. He knew how to motivate his boys to win.
Also, those were the glory days of Marshall. You were set to be the next Boise St. before there was Boise St.
....if only the Herd had stayed in the MAC...who knows what they may have accomplished. They were one of the most talked about non BCS conference teams of the nation in those days.
(12-01-2012 12:22 AM)exCincy Kid Wrote: ....if only the Herd had stayed in the MAC...who knows what they may have accomplished. They were one of the most talked about non BCS conference teams of the nation in those days.
Does everybody forget that Marshall was winning when their coach was cheating? Then he resigned as coach and they never won again? Pruett was the reason Marshall won and haven't been the same ever since. I think everybody forgets that.
Marshall leaving the MAC was a financial decision at the time. MAC was strong and producing NFL stars at the time. Marshall and UCF leaving was a hit for the MAC, but the MAC has rebounded and now is stronger than CUSA with the defections. MAC going forward may be the bigger TV deals and national rankings. CUSA programs are loaded with debt and have spent big to start up their football programs. That means lots of body bag games vs the SEC and less chance to reach top rankings for several years. UMass was a preview for what ODU and Charlotte will be like in the first fews years. CUSA can only hope these teams are as successful as Western Kentucky has been as transition from FCS. Marshall was an instant hit when they joined the MAC, but MAC was way down when Marshall joined so it wasn't that hard to catch the MAC. MAC title game got big ratings. Not sure if anyone will watch the CUSA title game.
(12-01-2012 01:10 AM)mtsufan561 Wrote: Don't worry, MT plays Vanderbilt starting in 2015 I believe. We'll be getting some BCS AQ wins for CUSA right off the bat!
You better hope coach Franklin has moved on to a better job by then. He got that program headed in the right direction, they could be the south's version of Stanford soon.
(11-30-2012 11:54 PM)Old Dominion Navy Wrote: I figured NIU would be the spoiler. The BCS is always bias against the small schools so NIU will move up to 17th as a slap in the face move
(11-30-2012 11:58 PM)dbackjon Wrote: How do you figure that, ECU?
C-USA has zero wins over BCS schools. MAC has 6 (at least).
No offense, but the best of the C-USA would be hard pressed to finish above 5th or 6th in the MAC this year.
I respect the MAC. It's a solid league.
With that said, let's not forget strength of schedule issue here. Sun Belt and C-USA play most of it's non-conference games against the SEC. The rest are played against Big 12 and ACC opponents.
MAC plays most of it's non-conference against Big Ten and Big East teams. SEC, Big 12, ACC > Big Ten, Big East.
Let's flip non-conference schedules and see how the MAC does playing the schedule we do in C-USA and the Sun Belt. As I pointed out a couple of weeks ago, 60% of the MAC's non-conference wins came against Army and I-AA teams. So let's keep things in perspective regarding the difference in the type of non-conf schedules we're playing.
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(11-30-2012 11:58 PM)dbackjon Wrote: How do you figure that, ECU?
C-USA has zero wins over BCS schools. MAC has 6 (at least).
No offense, but the best of the C-USA would be hard pressed to finish above 5th or 6th in the MAC this year.
I respect the MAC. It's a solid league.
With that said, let's not forget strength of schedule issue here. Sun Belt and C-USA play most of it's non-conference games against the SEC. The rest are played against Big 12 and ACC opponents.
MAC plays most of it's non-conference against Big Ten and Big East teams. SEC, Big 12, ACC > Big Ten, Big East.
Let's flip non-conference schedules and see how the MAC does playing the schedule we do in C-USA and the Sun Belt. As I pointed out a couple of weeks ago, 60% of the MAC's non-conference wins came against Army and I-AA teams. So let's keep things in perspective regarding the difference in the type of non-conf schedules we're playing.
A lot of talk for a fan of a school that lost to McNeese State.
(12-02-2012 12:32 AM)RocketinChicago Wrote: Well we'll find out next year when Toledo heads to Missouri and Florida for out of conference games plus a home game against Navy.
Remind me how the two MAC teams fared against Tulsa University in the GMAC bowl a few years back?
The MAC teams looked slowed (Bowling Green and Ball State).
(12-02-2012 12:32 AM)RocketinChicago Wrote: Well we'll find out next year when Toledo heads to Missouri and Florida for out of conference games plus a home game against Navy.
Remind me how the two MAC teams fared against Tulsa University in the GMAC bowl a few years back?
The MAC teams looked slowed (Bowling Green and Ball State).
And remind me how did UTEP fare against Toledo in the same GMAC bowl. Cyclical every season.
Maybe you'll show up at Arkansas next time knowing they'll finish 4-8?
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