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(12-22-2012 07:27 PM)BoiseAlum Wrote:  
(12-22-2012 07:17 PM)monty Wrote:  I love how whenever people don't like a story they just say it's fake - this has been hinted at what boise is trying to swing for a couple days now.

The Boise administration is doing their due diligence. They owe it to their alum, staff, coaches, players and fans to explore all avenues available to them. I'm ok with that. But I can't believe for one second that they are trying to get a conference deal that will give them unfair benefits over the other members of that conference. The fact that the B12 allows it for Texas is not right, and it wouldn't be right for the MWC or BE to do it for Boise.

You're not asking for what texas has, you're asking for what your little buddy BYU asked the Big East for. They are worlds apart.
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(12-22-2012 07:54 PM)monty Wrote:  
(12-22-2012 07:27 PM)BoiseAlum Wrote:  
(12-22-2012 07:17 PM)monty Wrote:  I love how whenever people don't like a story they just say it's fake - this has been hinted at what boise is trying to swing for a couple days now.

The Boise administration is doing their due diligence. They owe it to their alum, staff, coaches, players and fans to explore all avenues available to them. I'm ok with that. But I can't believe for one second that they are trying to get a conference deal that will give them unfair benefits over the other members of that conference. The fact that the B12 allows it for Texas is not right, and it wouldn't be right for the MWC or BE to do it for Boise.

You're not asking for what texas has, you're asking for what your little buddy BYU asked the Big East for. They are worlds apart.

And Boise isn't doing that either.
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(12-22-2012 08:16 PM)BoiseAlum Wrote:  
(12-22-2012 07:54 PM)monty Wrote:  
(12-22-2012 07:27 PM)BoiseAlum Wrote:  
(12-22-2012 07:17 PM)monty Wrote:  I love how whenever people don't like a story they just say it's fake - this has been hinted at what boise is trying to swing for a couple days now.

The Boise administration is doing their due diligence. They owe it to their alum, staff, coaches, players and fans to explore all avenues available to them. I'm ok with that. But I can't believe for one second that they are trying to get a conference deal that will give them unfair benefits over the other members of that conference. The fact that the B12 allows it for Texas is not right, and it wouldn't be right for the MWC or BE to do it for Boise.

You're not asking for what texas has, you're asking for what your little buddy BYU asked the Big East for. They are worlds apart.

And Boise isn't doing that either.

yea, all the hints this was happening and this article are just out and out lies, sure.
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(12-22-2012 08:20 PM)monty Wrote:  
(12-22-2012 08:16 PM)BoiseAlum Wrote:  
(12-22-2012 07:54 PM)monty Wrote:  
(12-22-2012 07:27 PM)BoiseAlum Wrote:  
(12-22-2012 07:17 PM)monty Wrote:  I love how whenever people don't like a story they just say it's fake - this has been hinted at what boise is trying to swing for a couple days now.

The Boise administration is doing their due diligence. They owe it to their alum, staff, coaches, players and fans to explore all avenues available to them. I'm ok with that. But I can't believe for one second that they are trying to get a conference deal that will give them unfair benefits over the other members of that conference. The fact that the B12 allows it for Texas is not right, and it wouldn't be right for the MWC or BE to do it for Boise.

You're not asking for what texas has, you're asking for what your little buddy BYU asked the Big East for. They are worlds apart.

And Boise isn't doing that either.

yea, all the hints this was happening and this article are just out and out lies, sure.

So what's you're problem with these rumors again?
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Serious question, I thought Boise and SDSU were cliqued up. It seems most of the venom about the latest rumors are coming from SDSU fans. Is there a history of bad blood there?
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Boise built a program from scratch and made it a national brand. Contrary to what people think they were an item before Peterson. I like them for building their progrm with no excuses.
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(12-22-2012 08:22 PM)maccoog Wrote:  Serious question, I thought Boise and SDSU were cliqued up. It seems most of the venom about the latest rumors are coming from SDSU fans. Is there a history of bad blood there?

No, it's just that most of them are Californians.
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(12-22-2012 08:22 PM)maccoog Wrote:  Serious question, I thought Boise and SDSU were cliqued up. It seems most of the venom about the latest rumors are coming from SDSU fans. Is there a history of bad blood there?

The vitriol is primarily coming from monty. I enjoy reading his posts but don't agree with him on this one. Boise is merely doing the best it can for itself. However, Boise should be more careful or it may end up king of a conference which is otherwise composed of a bunch of steaming piles.

As to Boise and SDSU being joined at the hip, that's difficult to say. I have heard, and it's been rumored, that the two schools and BYU have discussed forming a new conference and I think that's still a possibility depending on to what extent the eastern members of the BE insist on Boise, SDSU and anybody else from the west being in solely for football.
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(12-22-2012 08:23 PM)BroncoFan78 Wrote:  
(12-22-2012 08:22 PM)maccoog Wrote:  Serious question, I thought Boise and SDSU were cliqued up. It seems most of the venom about the latest rumors are coming from SDSU fans. Is there a history of bad blood there?

No, it's just that most of them are Californians.

As an ECU fan I can say I have pulled hard as hell for Boise over the years. The Fiesta Bowl vs OK was possibly the best bowl game in history IMO. I have always considered them much like the Pirates, not getting the respect they deserve because they were not in a "BCS" league. They have kicked ass on the field and when they have had the chance to play so-called bigger name teams they have beaten them. I respect the hell out of that. Nice win today and I was pulling for y'all all the way. I hope you will stay in the BE because Dowdy-Ficklen will be sold out and rocking when you come here no doubt. If not I wish you the best in the MWC. Either way the nBE will survive and thrive once this all shakes out. I would like the nBE to include Boise but it is not a deal breaker if it doesn't work out.
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I love the city of Boise and all Boise state has done.

But if they become a .500 team...(everything runs in cycles)...what did they have to offer?
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(12-22-2012 08:22 PM)maccoog Wrote:  Serious question, I thought Boise and SDSU were cliqued up. It seems most of the venom about the latest rumors are coming from SDSU fans. Is there a history of bad blood there?

No bad blood....no good blood.

We basically have no history with each other.
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I respect Boise and agree the Fiesta Bowl over the Sooners was a classic. They would be a great addition to any conference and in the end the NBE would be the best choice for all concerned. The media is pushing this ,hearing nothing substantial to validate any of it besides "sources" . My sources tell me the Mayan calendar ran out because the calendar maker ran out of ink.
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(12-22-2012 08:53 PM)SleepingGiantsFan Wrote:  
(12-22-2012 08:22 PM)maccoog Wrote:  Serious question, I thought Boise and SDSU were cliqued up. It seems most of the venom about the latest rumors are coming from SDSU fans. Is there a history of bad blood there?

The vitriol is primarily coming from monty. I enjoy reading his posts but don't agree with him on this one. Boise is merely doing the best it can for itself. However, Boise should be more careful or it may end up king of a conference which is otherwise composed of a bunch of steaming piles.

As to Boise and SDSU being joined at the hip, that's difficult to say. I have heard, and it's been rumored, that the two schools and BYU have discussed forming a new conference and I think that's still a possibility depending on to what extent the eastern members of the BE insist on Boise, SDSU and anybody else from the west being in solely for football.

I don't think it's vitriolic to say that asking for such a deal is a conference killer and I can't understand why anyone would accept it (hell, I don't understand why anyone would ask for it, either)

I also don't think it's vitriolic to say it's so silly that whenever an article like this comes out a bunch of people just refuse to believe it. Particularly when this is absolutely what all the dots connected to show was happening.
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(12-22-2012 08:22 PM)maccoog Wrote:  Serious question, I thought Boise and SDSU were cliqued up. It seems most of the venom about the latest rumors are coming from SDSU fans. Is there a history of bad blood there?

No bad blood....no good blood.

We basically have no history with each other.
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Double post sorry.
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Don't understand all the hub bub over Boise..
Boise may go, but if they get their own home tv rights, I would think Houston and SMU, and even SDSU, are not going with them.

Alternatively, the Big East invites CSU and UNM instead of UNLV and Fresno and ends this. Maybe that is the angle here for them.

If we all hold fast, I think Boise will stay. Under no circumstances should we give them an unequal share of revenue, and under no circumstances will any BE school vote for that.

Boise is overplaying their hand. There's a nice eastern league without them. We just invite USM or Tulsa and move on. I mean they aren't any good to us if we are only getting half their tv value.

One other possibility is that they are squeezing Cincy and UConn's nuts over an all sports invite. If that's the case, it may be a good thing for everyone.

Something is up though. These reporters are sports journalists, not Woodward and Bernstein. They aren't out there meeting reluctant sources in parking garages. If they are reporting something, it's because the source is calling them and leaking, with an agenda.
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(12-22-2012 09:45 PM)OUGwave Wrote:  Boise may go, but if they get their own home tv rights, I would think Houston and SMU, and even SDSU, are not going with them.

Alternatively, the Big East invites CSU and UNM instead of UNLV and Fresno and ends this. Maybe that is the angle here for them.

If we all hold fast, I think Boise will stay. Under no circumstances should we give them an unequal share of revenue, and under no circumstances will any BE school vote for that.

Boise is overplaying their hand. There's a nice eastern league without them. We just invite USM or Tulsa and move on. I mean they aren't any good to us if we are only getting half their tv value.

One other possibility is that they are squeezing Cincy and UConn's nuts over an all sports invite. If that's the case, it may be a good thing for everyone.

Something is up though. These reporters are sports journalists, not Woodward and Bernstein. They aren't out there meeting reluctant sources in parking garages. If they are reporting something, it's because the source is calling them and leaking, with an agenda.

Italicized nails it. One can argue this and other reports from perspective, but not complete fabrication. The question is who came out and bashed Boise like that, a team, a league official, a tv exec, etc not whether it was made or made in some form of reality.
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(12-22-2012 08:22 PM)maccoog Wrote:  Serious question, I thought Boise and SDSU were cliqued up. It seems most of the venom about the latest rumors are coming from SDSU fans. Is there a history of bad blood there?

No, there is no real history between SDSU and Boise. I thought all the bad blood was between SDSU and BYU. But Monty seems hell bent on creating some bad blood between the fans of Boise and SDSU. Or at least between the fans of Boise and Monty!!! Personally, I don't get it.
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(12-22-2012 09:54 PM)BoiseAlum Wrote:  
(12-22-2012 08:22 PM)maccoog Wrote:  Serious question, I thought Boise and SDSU were cliqued up. It seems most of the venom about the latest rumors are coming from SDSU fans. Is there a history of bad blood there?

No, there is no real history between SDSU and Boise. I thought all the bad blood was between SDSU and BYU. But Monty seems hell bent on creating some bad blood between the fans of Boise and SDSU. Or at least between the fans of Boise and Monty!!! Personally, I don't get it.

Because I don't think that story is created out of the ether and in fact think it is obvious that is what every story has pointed to the last couple days?
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(12-22-2012 08:22 PM)Cooglius Caeser Wrote:  Boise built a program from scratch and made it a national brand. Contrary to what people think they were an item before Peterson. I like them for building their progrm with no excuses.

Thanks. And the bulk of Boise fans have a hell of a lot of respect for Houston too!

Boise has won National Championships at every level of CFB it has been in (except for the FBS of course). Over the course of BSU Football history, we have a winning percentage that only a few can compare too. But most CFB fans aren't that familiar with BSU Football because we've only been at the highest level for a little over a decade. So it is what it is.
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