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Blaudschun: BIG EAST will make more moves after holidays
With Christmas upon us, the college world will take a 48 hour break to hatch the next conspiracy theory as well as make preparations for the new year.

This is what we see happening, presumably in chronological order.

1. Big East–Where do you want to start?

Let’s start with the latest buzz about Boise State–and then San Diego State–backing out on the deal to join the Big East on July 1.

It could go either way right now, but we’re betting that the deal holds up because the money Boise can make next year by joining the Big East is better than the money it can make by going back to the Mountain West. If Boise leaves, San Diego State leaves. If Boise State stays, San Diego State stays.

The key here is BCS money which the Big East champion will get for one more year on a guaranteed basis unless the BCS commissioners say otherwise. We think that they will also sit down and say enough harm has been done to the Big East and the BCS contract has only one year remaining, so let it play itself out. That would be a payout of upwards of 17 million dollars. That money is divided among the conference schools, but the Big East could easily increase the share of the winner (Boise will be among the favorites next season) to entice Boise to stay.

Big East commissioner Mike Aresco may even give Boise State some extra benefits or incentives to sweeten the pot and make a commitment for at least one year.

If Aresco can get Boise to stay, he will have a 12-team, two division football conference locked up. He can then settle the television deal which will have all sorts of escape and “look in”" clauses to it. It will be a combination ESPN-NBC/Comcast deal in football and basketball which could be closer to $100 million per year than $60 million per year as has been speculated.

Once that deal is done, Aresco will then finish up the details of the departure of the Catholic 7. Aresco feels that everthing will be secure until the summer of 2014. unless the schools that are leaving want to pony up some serious exit fees in cash.

“I still think we’re good through 2013,” said Aresco. “After that, we’ll see how it works out.”

How it will work out is likely to be a graduated departure. The Catholic 7 will leave on June 30th 2014. They will take the Big East name with them. They will add three more schools–Xavier, Butler and we’ll say VCU. They will also have close to 42 million dollars in assets garnered from the split with the Big East to use as start up money.

This should all be done in the next few months. Again, if anyone wants to leave by next season, Aresco will listen, but they had better be prepared to hand over as much a $20 million plus legal fees to get out of town.

The Big East football league will eventually remerge as a hybrid of the Mountain West, Conference USA and Big East with a new name.

By 2014, it will have 14 teams playing football.

Boise State, San Diego State, Houston, Memphis, , SMU, Fresno State and UNLV.

Temple, UConn, South Florida, Central Florida, East Carolina, Tulane and Cincinnati.

Navy is scheduled to join in 2015, which will leave room for one more team at a later date–Air Force, BYU and UMass all will be discussed.


In basketball, the league will be a bit smaller.

Temple, Cincinnati, UConn and Memphis will be the four marquee teams. Central Florida, South Florida, Tulane, East Carolina, SMU and Houston will round out the group of 10, which allows a double round robin regular season schedule against each opponent, but also allows enough room to bring in some high profile non-conference opponents.

Aresco’s plan is clear in his mind. A 14 to 16 team football league that will be diverse enough to get decent television money, and talented enough to successfully compete for the open BCS slot each year awarded to the conference with the highest ranked team.

In basketball, the idea is to get an NCAA automatic bid for the conference champion, keep it small enough to develop rivalries, but with enough room to succeed if there are any more defections.

“We’re going to be fine,” said Aresco. “It’s going to work out. It’s just going to take some time.”

2. ACC-Keep an eye on the Big Ten and Georgia Tech. Maybe not this year, but by 2014. If that happens, the Big Ten will need t find another team to get to 16. And with the kind of money the Big Ten can offer, EVERYONE in the ACC is in play.

If there is any doubt about this look at Rutgers. According to sources familiar with the discussions going on about expansion, Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany didn’t even have Rutgers on his A B or C list until Georgia Tech finally said no thank you as a partner with Maryland. Once that happened and once Syracuse announced it was leaving the Big East, Rutgers moved into prime time.

3. Big 12–For now, we will take the Big 12 at its word that they are content to stay at 10 teams. But that also can change quickly.

Right now, everyone is in an idle mode. Once we get past Christmas and New Year’s, that will change.

http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=4512
12-23-2012 02:01 PM
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Hope this is correct.
12-23-2012 02:05 PM
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I hope Aresco can save this conference. I really feel bad for the man having inherited such a mess that seemingly only gets worse over time. If he saves the league he will, in my mind, be the best conference commissioner out there.
12-23-2012 02:07 PM
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RE: Blaudschun: BIG EAST will make more moves after holidays
(12-23-2012 02:01 PM)johniesFan99 Wrote:  Let’s start with the latest buzz about Boise State–and then San Diego State–backing out on the deal to join the Big East on July 1.

If Boise leaves, San Diego State leaves. If Boise State stays, San Diego State stays.

I agree with the rest... but not sure about these parts...

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/dec/...-boise-st/
12-23-2012 02:12 PM
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I'm hoping that it works out as stated. I still want to see Boise as part of the Big East. In no way am I in favor of Boise going back to the MWC. The MWC didn't want Boise in the first place, not until Utah left for the PAC. And even when they did take Boise, they put a ton of restrictions on them.

Please Aresco, make this happen!
12-23-2012 02:19 PM
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(12-23-2012 02:19 PM)BoiseAlum Wrote:  I'm hoping that it works out as stated. I still want to see Boise as part of the Big East. In no way am I in favor of Boise going back to the MWC. The MWC didn't want Boise in the first place, not until Utah left for the PAC. And even when they did take Boise, they put a ton of restrictions on them.

Please Aresco, make this happen!

If in fact his estimated TV contract value is correct Boise St will stay...No way they come close to that kind of money in the MWC. We all know money is going to be the deciding factor.
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(12-23-2012 02:21 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  
(12-23-2012 02:19 PM)BoiseAlum Wrote:  I'm hoping that it works out as stated. I still want to see Boise as part of the Big East. In no way am I in favor of Boise going back to the MWC. The MWC didn't want Boise in the first place, not until Utah left for the PAC. And even when they did take Boise, they put a ton of restrictions on them.

Please Aresco, make this happen!

If in fact his estimated TV contract value is correct Boise St will stay...No way they come close to that kind of money in the MWC. We all know money is going to be the deciding factor.

The problem is they're hurting the bargaining position of Aresco by not shouting these rumors down and stating full speed ahead like SDSU.
12-23-2012 02:23 PM
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(12-23-2012 02:23 PM)k5james Wrote:  The problem is they're hurting the bargaining position of Aresco by not shouting these rumors down and stating full speed ahead like SDSU.

I agree! I don't fully understand what Kustra is doing in all of this. Maybe it's a power play, maybe not. But I think that when Boise committed to the BE back in the summer, they need to stay committed 100%. The MWC is NOT the answer. So come out and publicly kill all of these BS rumors and help Aresco make this happen!!!
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The basketball league will SUCK. We need to add either 2-3 good non FB schools or make the west all sports because as it stands that is a crap basketball league.
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Aresco probably knows that Boise State, Cincinnati, UConn, and maybe Houston have been playing the field at this point. I really hope we stick together and build this thing. Not the greatest league but a darn good one in football.

The ten team basketball model works for me as well. Smaller basketball conferences make it easier to qualify for the tournament. Good conferences can get 4, 5, 6, or 7 bids out of smaller leagues while larger leagues struggle to put half their membership in the tournament.

ATV deal close $100 per year is a winner at this point. How much is that per school?
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Given all the other crap, I would be fine with $100 million. Not delighted by any means, but fine.
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(12-23-2012 02:32 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  Given all the other crap, I would be fine with $100 million. Not delighted by any means, but fine.

Its pretty close to what was projected as the bottom end of the TV contract by our "expert" from day one.
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(12-23-2012 02:01 PM)johniesFan99 Wrote:  Once that deal is done, Aresco will then finish up the details of the departure of the Catholic 7. Aresco feels that everthing will be secure until the summer of 2014. unless the schools that are leaving want to pony up some serious exit fees in cash.

“I still think we’re good through 2013,” said Aresco. “After that, we’ll see how it works out.”

How it will work out is likely to be a graduated departure. The Catholic 7 will leave on June 30th 2014. They will take the Big East name with them. They will add three more schools–Xavier, Butler and we’ll say VCU. They will also have close to 42 million dollars in assets garnered from the split with the Big East to use as start up money.

This should all be done in the next few months. Again, if anyone wants to leave by next season, Aresco will listen, but they had better be prepared to hand over as much a $20 million plus legal fees to get out of town.

http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=4512

Pete Thamel of SI.com has already reported that the C7 league will go to 12 and Xavier and Butler are definite and Dayton and Creighton are near definite while St. Louis is in the lead for that last spot. I personally would rather have VCU than St. Louis.
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(12-23-2012 02:32 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  Given all the other crap, I would be fine with $100 million. Not delighted by any means, but fine.

If this league actually was able to pull that number at this point that would be a home run.
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I too hope this is correct.

It means that the 10 all-sports schools would be getting almost $8m a year in tv revenue. The CUSA entrants can do a lot with that cash, because we have only had $1m in tv revenue in our existing budgets. So it would dramatically improve things like coaching salaries, academic support, travel budgets, recruiting budgets, etc. combined with being in a better and more compact league with Temple, Memphis, UCONN, and Cincy, we would improve dramatically in hoops. Tulane has already built a best-in-class hoops practice facility and I know ECU has one coming on line soon too. UCF has a nice facility too if Im not mistaken. All of these schools are closer to being competitive than people think.

Speaking of UCONN and Cincy, if they were to leave at some point in 2015-16, this wouldn't actually hit us that hard, because we would then be positioned to shift to a 16 team all sports model. We would already have UNLV, SDSU, and Fresno in the fold for football and could make those all sports invites. We could then add U Mass and UNM for all sports. Memphis shifts east, and the FB divisions could match the basketball divisions.

I know some people aren't sold on UNLV football, but I think if they are showing commitment, they have huge potential and are worth investing in as a market. They will eventually be a top 30 market and will never have pro sports. You can't look at these things in a static way: give them 3-4 8 or 9 win seasons in a row and they'll develop a big following.
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Can't wait til round robin games with Tulane, Houston, SMU and UCF 03-puke

They need to listen to my genius ideas proposed in my thread.
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(12-23-2012 02:36 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(12-23-2012 02:32 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  Given all the other crap, I would be fine with $100 million. Not delighted by any means, but fine.

If this league actually was able to pull that number at this point that would be a home run.

I'd be happy with that.
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(12-23-2012 02:38 PM)Bearcat_Bounce Wrote:  Can't wait til round robin games with Tulane, Houston, SMU and UCF 03-puke

They need to listen to my genius ideas proposed in my thread.

I think you'll be surprised how competitive those teams can be. I know UCF has beaten UF, Uconn, and Memphis in recent years.
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(12-23-2012 02:38 PM)Bearcat_Bounce Wrote:  Can't wait til round robin games with Tulane, Houston, SMU and UCF 03-puke

They need to listen to my genius ideas proposed in my thread.

We saw it - the excitement of New Mexico and Colorado State, with Fresno being the only consistent football team out there.
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(12-23-2012 02:38 PM)Bearcat_Bounce Wrote:  Can't wait til round robin games with Tulane, Houston, SMU and UCF 03-puke

They need to listen to my genius ideas proposed in my thread.

I have nothing about Tulane, but...

Houston has been a quality basketball program in the past
SMU does have Larry Brown, so they'll be very good soon
UCF has gotten pretty damn good quickly.
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