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Quote:The nearly 2-year-old NCAA investigation into Miami's compliance practices may be nearing an end.

Two people with knowledge of the situation told The Associated Press on Saturday that the NCAA is scheduling meetings to discuss specific allegations with individuals who are believed to have committed violations found during the inquiry. Some meetings will take place Monday, said the people, who spoke on condition of anonymity because neither the NCAA nor Miami authorized them to reveal the developments publicly.

The reviewing of specific findings is a sign that the investigation phase is ending, meaning Miami may finally receive its notice of allegations letter in the coming days. Typically, schools review at least one draft of the notice before it formally arrives.

The NCAA does not comment on ongoing investigations. Miami's statement throughout the investigation has been that it is cooperating and not commenting further.

Earlier this month, Miami coach Al Golden told the AP that he did not expect the university to be surprised by the NCAA's findings.

''We just want to receive the notice,'' Golden said. ''The day we do that is the day we take a big step forward. I don't think there's any question that will be a release. And the good thing there is we don't anticipate any shock or any surprise.''

Quote:If the notice of allegations is, in fact, looming, that means Miami may find out its punishment by perhaps May or June.

Some of the sanctions have already gone into effect, since they were self-imposed. Miami's football team has missed three postseason games - two bowl games and what would have been an appearance in this season's Atlantic Coast Conference championship game - in response to the investigation, and Golden is holding back a number of scholarships from the 2013 roster as well.

what do you think they will get?

(01-13-2013 04:05 PM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  what do you think they will get?

I'm hoping they get 2 years post-season ban (time served) and scholarship reduction equal to what they've already self-imposed. We don't need any more ACC teams under ban!

(01-13-2013 05:35 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(01-13-2013 04:05 PM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  what do you think they will get?

I'm hoping they get 2 years post-season ban (time served) and scholarship reduction equal to what they've already self-imposed. We don't need any more ACC teams under ban!

This...a strong Miami is good for the entire league.

(01-13-2013 06:34 PM)krux Wrote:  

(01-13-2013 05:35 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(01-13-2013 04:05 PM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  what do you think they will get?

I'm hoping they get 2 years post-season ban (time served) and scholarship reduction equal to what they've already self-imposed. We don't need any more ACC teams under ban!

This...a strong Miami is good for the entire league.

The entire ACC has their fingers crossed. I've said all along that a strong Miami is key.

Hoping for the best here. Thinking that the NCAA opens up a can of whoop ass tho.

(01-13-2013 07:40 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  Hoping for the best here. Thinking that the NCAA opens up a can of whoop ass tho.

I don't know? Former coach / regime and this new coach / regime has self imposed sanctions on themselves for a while now.

Hey, just like Pitt has self imposed sanctions on ourselves...

If we're being honest, both UNC and Miami should get *severe* punishment. On the order of 4-5 total years probation and scholarship reductions for longer.

This also has the possibility to impact UofL as Clint Hurtt is on UofL's coaching staff. Some reports have indicated that Hurtt was the exMiami coach most closely tied to the Shapiro scandal.

My guess as for what happens is that so long as Hurtt has been clean at UofL and as long as there is no NCAA "show cause" ruling, I believe Hurtt will remain with Strong and U of L's staff. If he does get hit with a show-cause ruling, he'll be gone.

It's hard to judge the NCAA anymore. On paper, Penn State's NCAA violations (as opposed to their legal/moral issues) seemed pretty small, but they still got something that's like to keep the program down for a decade. Miami (FL)'s NCAA violations seem bigger than anyone's lately, but I think it's probably not going to be much more than USC's.

(01-13-2013 10:09 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  It's hard to judge the NCAA anymore. On paper, Penn State's NCAA violations (as opposed to their legal/moral issues) seemed pretty small, but they still got something that's like to keep the program down for a decade. Miami (FL)'s NCAA violations seem bigger than anyone's lately, but I think it's probably not going to be much more than USC's.

State had 8 wins last year and will be back within about 3 years of the sactions, 4-5 tops. Worst case scenario, State will be down for 8 years, but really, there is a good chance that it could be around 5 years. Given what PSU did, the penalties are an ABSOLUTE joke.

I'm hoping that what we've already done will cover most if not all of what the NCAA will decide. Like people have said, a strong Miami is good for the ACC. We'll be quite good next year, I only hope we can go play in a bowl...

(01-13-2013 10:09 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  It's hard to judge the NCAA anymore. On paper, Penn State's NCAA violations (as opposed to their legal/moral issues) seemed pretty small, but they still got something that's like to keep the program down for a decade. Miami (FL)'s NCAA violations seem bigger than anyone's lately, but I think it's probably not going to be much more than USC's.

I think the way that the NCAA justifies the Penn State sanctions is that they've always cracked down hardest where they found there was a lack of institutional control over the athletics programs by the university in question. I know that wording has been thrown around a lot but I think even if Penn State didn't meet the exact definition of this under the NCAA's rules, this was what they felt the true issue was.

I don't think anyone who sanely thinks about the Penn State situation thinks that they had control over Joe Pa or his football program at Penn State. Penn State fans would love to talk about how Joe Pa told his superiors to get off his property when they came to ask him to step down - well, that's the problem in a nutshell.

The problems at Miami are bad. There's no way around it. I think that how deep the issues run is more likely to be the deciding factor as to whether they get treated more like Penn State or more like USC.

(01-13-2013 05:35 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(01-13-2013 04:05 PM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  what do you think they will get?

I'm hoping they get 2 years post-season ban (time served) and scholarship reduction equal to what they've already self-imposed. We don't need any more ACC teams under ban!

What have they self-imposed scholarship-wise yet? Nothing. They're supposedly limiting scholarships for 2013 but signing day hasn't even happened yet so we don't know what those limits will be.

They should get 0-2 more bowl bans and 3-4 years of scholarship restrictions of 5-10/year.

No particular reason, I just think that after the NCAA taking it easy on Ohio State and UNC when both should have been hammered they are going to want to look like they are getting tough.

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/m...1f7b3.html





"If, in fact, the investigative aspect of the case is concluding, the process moves thusly from here, per NCAA procedures posted on the Miami web site:

“At the conclusion of the investigative process for any NCAA case, the enforcement staff makes a determination of what, if any, NCAA bylaws and rules it believes have been broken by the institution, its staff or student-athletes or associated parties.

“If, in their determination, violations did occur, the NCAA staff issues a Notice of Allegations to the institution, detailing the bylaws alleged to have been violated and providing supporting evidence.

“The issuance of the Notice of Allegations is not announced publicly by the NCAA nor is it released by the NCAA. Member institutions may, at their own choosing, release parts of or all of the Notice of Allegations to the public.

“Any individual alleged to have committed an NCAA violation in the Notice of Allegations will also receive a copy of the allegation(s), whether still employed by the institution or not.”

From there, any institution or individual has 90 days to challenge the allegation or request an extension"