(02-06-2013 10:46 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  

(02-06-2013 10:40 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  It's funny seeing some of you trashing New York football, yet your "superior" southern schools recruit in New York. The "mighty" SEC even recruits players from New York, you need to do a little research before talking out of your ass.

2011's NY class.

Ishaq Williams - Offers from Florida and South Carolina

2012's NY class.

Chad Kelly - Clemson commit. Offers from Alabama, Florida State, and Vanderbilt.

Jarron Jones - Offers from Florida State and Tennessee

Wayne Morgan - Alabama offer.

2013's NY class.

Ebenezer Ogundeko - Clemson commit. Offers from Alabama, Florida, Ole Miss, Tennessee, Texas A&M, and Vanderbilt.

Augustus Edwards - Offers from Florida State and Vanderbilt.

Clemson, Florida State, and SEC schools seem to scout and recruit NY talent quite a bit.

While yes I'll say NY is better than New England in general. But I wouldn't boast about 6 players over a 3 year time span.

Wow I missed this before. Hilarious to brag about that little amount over a 3 year period. If anything, that proves my point even more.

You can change your t-shirt tomorrow and become the biggest Florida Gators fan out there. Cheer for who you want, but having no real connection to the school means your opinion should be given the consideration it deserves.

(02-07-2013 11:41 AM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  You can change your t-shirt tomorrow and become the biggest Florida Gators fan out there. Cheer for who you want, but having no real connection to the school means your opinion should be given the consideration it deserves.

So you are saying that if you go to the school you automatically know more about the sports even if you never played them there? So if I go out tomorrow and apply for Grad school at FSU I all of a sudden have more weight to my arguments? Sure makes a ton of sense....

Sorry but I don't think you going to accounting class at Wake Forest gives you more weight in talking about their sports programs. You can know just as much not going there at all.

You can minimize it all you want but when your family is split between a rivalry you are generally going to root for one of those teams. I don't see how family going there isn't a "real connection".

But hey while you have your opinion on this I can say quite frankly that I don't give a damn what you think. I mean the last time (among many) that you brought this up you said you could just pick up the closest big team if Wake gets dropped down the totem pole in FBS. So thinking FSU is the closest "big" school to FAU when all the big 5 are closer, doesn't exactly scream knowledge on your part.

Gee you mean FSU isn't in Rat's Mouth, Florida?

FSU was the furthest school away from me in Fort Lauderdale, FL. Boca Raton is no Winston Salem but location wise, that was a very good thing

(02-07-2013 08:04 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  No need for the name calling fellas. Lets not ruin a good thread by having it sent to the smack board.

A good thread whose title is "I hated the Big East but..."?

Its smack-laden title sets the tone for the entire thread.

Wasn't going to say anything but the thread is a call out thread in my direction. So I kind of chuckled when the guy acted like it was a good thread to start......

All good though.

Then it might as well be on the smack board where you kids can have at it.

Can't brag about the WPIAL anymore. We sent a total of 18 kids to D1A schools. I knew it was a down year but that's downright pathetic.

(02-07-2013 07:43 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(02-06-2013 10:29 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(02-06-2013 10:00 PM)Ragu Wrote:  

(02-06-2013 09:55 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(02-06-2013 07:25 PM)Ragu Wrote:  First off being number 4 in Florida is better than being number one in New York for football.

Secondly you new people to the conference from Northern states have no idea about competing with the SEC for recruits. And if you think some recruits are lost simply because FSU/Clemson aren't in the SEC, you have your head in the sand.

These players want exciting matchups. FSU and Clemson can't control those in conference matchups because that is dependent on how the other teams do. The fact is that most recruits don't give a crap about playing anyone in this conference except FSU, Clemson and Miami. I know some of you don't like to hear that but those are the 3 teams that are the matchups most top kids want.

PS: Florida State and Miami are not little brothers to Florida. They are called the big 3 for a reason. All 3 have held their own against each other. My family is split between UF/FSU and I never think of them as big brother. Anyone saying that crap obviously hasn't followed the rivalries.

1. NY has a MUCH better football tradition than Florida. Don't get me wrong, Florida produces more talent now, but don't trash the state that gave the University of Florida a reason to not leave the state of Florida for OOC games.

2. If the ACC conference schedule doesn't deliver challenges and exciting matchups, then why does FSU schedule weak OOC teams?

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/acc/flor...inoles.php

Seriously save the history crap. Your grandpa can talk about when Syracuse had Jim Brown and Ernie Davis with his friends that aren't deceased yet. Nobody cares about NY football now. Now is what matters in what we are talking about.

Everyone schedules weak OOC games for a game or two. This is because you get them guaranteed as home games and take in all that money. If you do a home/home, you have to go away for a game and take a hit financially. With how far this conference is getting behind our SEC rivals already, FSU can't really afford to lose more money.

Florida is an every year game. WVU was supposed to be this year and last year but they backed out forcing FSU to scramble. In 2014, Oklahoma State will be a 2nd OOC game. Look at the schedules over the years junior before you try to even compare to FSU OOC. They have historically scheduled very up OOC . While you may love history, you sure aren't a scholar of their history.

PS: It's a two way street too. SEC/Big12/Big10 teams don't usually schedule more than one headliner OOC game. So it isn't as if FSU can just call and get 3 hard teams OOC to play......

"Seriously save the history crap."
Sorry, I forgot I was arguing with a high school kid with a 3.8 GPA who doesn't remember wayyyyyyyyy back to '91.


"Everyone schedules weak OOC games for a game or two."
So UF, Wofford, Nevada, and Idaho is a lineup with only one or two weak teams in it? I'' give you UF, but who is the second good team? Please enlighten me. Also, feel free to elaborate why UF has a tougher OOC schedule. Their schedule consists of Toledo, Ga Southern, Miami, and FSU. If FSU was really losing recruits to UF because UF's schedule had bigger names on it, then why is FSU's 2nd biggest OOC game against Nevada, whereas UF plays Miami as their #2?

--------Way to skip over what I just said above. WVU pulled out on FSU at the last minute last season. Teams schedule years in advance. That is why they don't have a 2nd marque game. Oklahoma St is on the schedule next season already.
As for Miami OOC for UF, that hardly ever happens. UF scheduled them now because Miami has been going through a down period. UF isn't forced to play them as they are with FSU so they won't play them every season.

Again you skipped over what I said and took one year to make your point. Why don't you look back at previous OOC schedules for FSU. Hint: before ACC expansion MIami and UF were on the schedule every year. And in other years, Nebraska or Notre Dame would be a 3rd game along with others. You simply don't know history unless Cuse is attached to it I guess.
"So it isn't as if FSU can just call and get 3 hard teams OOC to play......"
Weird lowly Syracuse found a way to get a ranked NW, a ranked (at the time) Mizzou, a #1 USC, and a Minnesota on their schedule last season. That's 4 BCS teams, and 3 of them were either ranked at the start of the season or at the end of the season (and Minn was ranked in the middle).

Look at the schedules over the years junior before you try to even compare to FSU OOC. Also hate to break this to you but Syracuse is scheduled as a "very winnable game for teams like USC. They aren't a marque game. They were scheduled for an attempted break. USC already had Notre Dame and such. Scheduling a Syracuse isn't the same to them as scheduling a Clemson or FSU.

UF (x4), Wofford, Nevada, Idaho, Oklahoma State, The Citadel, Texas State, Chattanooga. Those are ALL of FSU's scheduled OOC games for the next 4 years. I'll give you the yearly game against UF and I'll give you OSU (who you only play once on a neutral site), but who is the 3rd team (I'm not even going to ask for a 4th or 5th good team)?

Syracuse plays ND (3X), PSU, NW, and Tulane in the next four years, which is weird, because we aren't the ones complaining about our schedule but have virtually an identical OOC schedule (1 name team each year and a pretty good BCS team once), only we have more open spaces (i.e potential for a second pretty good BCS team). If the schedule was really FSU's problem, then they wouldn't have the same (or weaker) schedule as one of those "weak northern teams."

It's OK, though. You're a FSU fan. Nobody expects you to be right. We just expect you to buy a bunch of FSU gear with ACC stickers on it and fill up our gas when we drive up to your pump. And before you mention that you live in Ohio, start telling me some long rambling story about your dad being a FSU fan and the rest of your family being UF fans, or go off on the fact that you aspire to go to FAU business school, know that I don't care. None of us do, so please don't put us through your life story again.

--------Um I graduated from high school over a decade ago.... I remember parts of the 80's still. You guys still talk about history because of lack of relevance now. We are talking about now. History doesn't matter at all when talking about what recruits and teams are thinking at the current time. That is what we are talking about here.


I already graduated from college years ago. And I only bring up my family history when people try to discuss my fandom. Makes perfect sense to cheer for a team growing up that your family members attend or have attended. I am sure plenty on this board and others cheer for a team from a school they didn't attend. Some may just not admit it though for whatever reason..

Again you skipped everything I said about FSU scheduling and you conveniently chose a short span where WVU f'd them over at the last minute and pulled out of the games. Do some research and realize how foolish you are for even insinuating that FSU hasn't scheduled up OOC over the years.

While you can try to have a tone as if you are knowledgable, you aren't fooling anybody.

1. "History doesn't matter at all when talking about what recruits and teams are thinking at the current time."
Tell that to Alabama and Notre Dame. They sell a lot of history, and they did alright last year.

2. I chose EVERY OOC game that is currently scheduled. If it's a short span it's because FSU doesn't schedule far in advance. I had nothing to do with it. Excellent attempt to blame me for your adopted school's scheduling problems.