(02-27-2013 08:26 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  The hype has started and it is much different this time. when the Cusa invite came last time it was real sudden like. now there is just a steady stream of info coming out of different mouths in the admin.

The thought is BE completes all TV paperwork and then brings in Tulsa, we are sitting on the stoop and will go in when tulsa opens the door to leave.

I have no source other than just chatter, but i feel more confident this time. Football attendance could sky-rocket this year with winning, BP, and a looming cusa schedule...

anyway, word is coaches have been told to stop scheduling CUSA teams in ooc in preparation for the move.

...coaches don't schedule OOC games. ADs or their assistant ADs do.

I could see:

cusa -14

E- WKU, M Tn St, Marshall, ODU, UNCC, UAB, Smiss
W- UTEP, UTSA, N Tex St, Rice, La tech, FAU, FIU

does it matter if the FL school's are in the east or west? everybody is flying to them anyway + lots of flights between miami-dallas

(02-28-2013 09:41 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  ...coaches don't schedule OOC games. ADs or their assistant ADs do.

Coaching staffs are heavily involved with scheduling at most schools.

(02-28-2013 08:01 AM)Cnelson203 Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 07:55 AM)Louis Kitton Wrote:  I have a hard time seeing how the FB divisions are going to work for CUSA.

CUSA East: WKU, MTSU, Marshall, Charlotte, Old Dominion, FIU, FAU

That is a pretty nice East division on paper. A few schools in the CUSA West are getting screwed over though...

CUSA West: UTEP, UTSA, Rice, UNT, La Tech, So Miss, UAB

UAB is definitely getting the shaft here. I guess it doesn't matter though because they have their football program operating at such a low level right now. So Miss not as much and LaTech definitely not.

With this lineup, I'm not very pleased that Marshall has ZERO of its old conference mates in their division. I'd love to find a way to keep UAB East, if for no other reason.

On the upside. Marshall would be able to recruit the holy shiite out of South Florida with this Eastern Division alignment.

(02-28-2013 09:41 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 08:26 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  The hype has started and it is much different this time. when the Cusa invite came last time it was real sudden like. now there is just a steady stream of info coming out of different mouths in the admin.

The thought is BE completes all TV paperwork and then brings in Tulsa, we are sitting on the stoop and will go in when tulsa opens the door to leave.

I have no source other than just chatter, but i feel more confident this time. Football attendance could sky-rocket this year with winning, BP, and a looming cusa schedule...

anyway, word is coaches have been told to stop scheduling CUSA teams in ooc in preparation for the move.

...coaches don't schedule OOC games. ADs or their assistant ADs do.

At Arkansas State the coaches make all schedules subject to approval of the AD except in football where the AD makes the schedule.

(02-28-2013 09:23 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 07:55 AM)Louis Kitton Wrote:  I have a hard time seeing how the FB divisions are going to work for CUSA.

CUSA East: WKU, MTSU, Marshall, Charlotte, Old Dominion, FIU, FAU

That is a pretty nice East division on paper. A few schools in the CUSA West are getting screwed over though...

CUSA West: UTEP, UTSA, Rice, UNT, La Tech, So Miss, UAB

UAB is definitely getting the shaft here. I guess it doesn't matter though because they have their football program operating at such a low level right now. So Miss not as much and LaTech definitely not.

How is UAB getting screwed over? Because they don't have a bunch of startup programs to pad their win total with? The east is horrendous for the time being until those schools get up to speed. There will be several better FCS conferences.

UAB would be away from ODU, Charlotte, and MTSU, three programs they almost certainly advocated adding due to proximity and basketball focus along with WKU another program they would likely advocate for.

Instead they would be in the Texas division with La.Tech and USM. That's a budget buster and not designed to help generate fan interest in Birmingham.

(02-28-2013 12:29 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 09:41 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 08:26 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  The hype has started and it is much different this time. when the Cusa invite came last time it was real sudden like. now there is just a steady stream of info coming out of different mouths in the admin.

The thought is BE completes all TV paperwork and then brings in Tulsa, we are sitting on the stoop and will go in when tulsa opens the door to leave.

I have no source other than just chatter, but i feel more confident this time. Football attendance could sky-rocket this year with winning, BP, and a looming cusa schedule...

anyway, word is coaches have been told to stop scheduling CUSA teams in ooc in preparation for the move.

...coaches don't schedule OOC games. ADs or their assistant ADs do.

At Arkansas State the coaches make all schedules subject to approval of the AD except in football where the AD makes the schedule.

Never considered the other sports I never think about a college sport other than football.

(02-28-2013 09:41 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 08:26 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  The hype has started and it is much different this time. when the Cusa invite came last time it was real sudden like. now there is just a steady stream of info coming out of different mouths in the admin.

The thought is BE completes all TV paperwork and then brings in Tulsa, we are sitting on the stoop and will go in when tulsa opens the door to leave.

I have no source other than just chatter, but i feel more confident this time. Football attendance could sky-rocket this year with winning, BP, and a looming cusa schedule...

anyway, word is coaches have been told to stop scheduling CUSA teams in ooc in preparation for the move.

...coaches don't schedule OOC games. ADs or their assistant ADs do.

im just going off of what a beat writer said...

I hope they do push USM west, just so our AD will get off his butt and get us into a real conference.

(02-28-2013 01:30 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  I hope they do push USM west, just so our AD will get off his butt and get us into a real conference.

I think you going west no matter what. Even expanding to 16, to keep UAB east is going to send you west unless the three new teams are from west of the Mississippi River.

I'd honestly almost rather we just go to 16. Throw in two Western members in addition to WKU and keep UAB and USM east.

An east with Marshall, USM, UAB, ODU, Charlotte, the Florida twins, WKU, and MTSU looks about as good as CUSA could realistically get to me. The only problem is that is more mouths to feed so I doubt schools would be willing to advocate adding two more.

(02-28-2013 09:47 AM)bluesox Wrote:  I could see:

cusa -14

E- WKU, M Tn St, Marshall, ODU, UNCC, UAB, Smiss
W- UTEP, UTSA, N Tex St, Rice, La tech, FAU, FIU

does it matter if the FL school's are in the east or west? everybody is flying to them anyway + lots of flights between miami-dallas

I'd say that it does matter. If it goes down like that the biggest recruiting areas that the eastern schools will have games in will be in Norfolk and Charlotte. Meanwhile the west schools get to play in both Texas and Florida at least once a year.

I don't see that happening.

(02-28-2013 02:08 PM)Niner National Wrote:  I'd honestly almost rather we just go to 16. Throw in two Western members in addition to WKU and keep UAB and USM east.

An east with Marshall, USM, UAB, ODU, Charlotte, the Florida twins, WKU, and MTSU looks about as good as CUSA could realistically get to me. The only problem is that is more mouths to feed so I doubt schools would be willing to advocate adding two more.

That looks like 9 in the east leaving UTEP, UNT, UTSA, Rice and La Tech needing 4 more to get to 9 in the west. Don't see that happening. If you put USM in the west for 8 in the east, the west would need to add 2 out of Texas St, Ark St, ULL, NMSU for 16 total.

(02-28-2013 02:08 PM)Niner National Wrote:  I'd honestly almost rather we just go to 16. Throw in two Western members in addition to WKU and keep UAB and USM east.

An east with Marshall, USM, UAB, ODU, Charlotte, the Florida twins, WKU, and MTSU looks about as good as CUSA could realistically get to me. The only problem is that is more mouths to feed so I doubt schools would be willing to advocate adding two more.

I'm also an advocate of the 16-team model. WKU, Arkansas State and NMSU would help the geography a lot, but Southern Mississippi needs to let it be known where they want to play, east or west.

(02-28-2013 01:30 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  I hope they do push USM west, just so our AD will get off his butt and get us into a real conference.

Enough. We're all in this together, like it or not.

(02-28-2013 03:31 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 02:08 PM)Niner National Wrote:  I'd honestly almost rather we just go to 16. Throw in two Western members in addition to WKU and keep UAB and USM east.

An east with Marshall, USM, UAB, ODU, Charlotte, the Florida twins, WKU, and MTSU looks about as good as CUSA could realistically get to me. The only problem is that is more mouths to feed so I doubt schools would be willing to advocate adding two more.

I'm also an advocate of the 16-team model. WKU, Arkansas State and NMSU would help the geography a lot, but Southern Mississippi needs to let it be known where they want to play, east or west.

With USM having an interim president, good luck getting a firm answer.

(02-28-2013 02:08 PM)Niner National Wrote:  I'd honestly almost rather we just go to 16. Throw in two Western members in addition to WKU and keep UAB and USM east.

An east with Marshall, USM, UAB, ODU, Charlotte, the Florida twins, WKU, and MTSU looks about as good as CUSA could realistically get to me. The only problem is that is more mouths to feed so I doubt schools would be willing to advocate adding two more.

If CUSA could grow to 18 really fast that might be almost enough to put the SBC out of business. WKU in the East and then Ark State, Tx State, ULL in the West.

Then again likely not because an SBC with ULM, USA, Troy and Georgia State could just recruit New Mexico State and Idaho to save the league along with Southern, ASU, JMU, Liberty, Lamar as needed to return to 10.

The SBC has the status as a G5 conference contractually in the new playoff system. A big advantage the WAC never lasted to see.

(02-28-2013 04:53 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 03:31 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 02:08 PM)Niner National Wrote:  I'd honestly almost rather we just go to 16. Throw in two Western members in addition to WKU and keep UAB and USM east.

An east with Marshall, USM, UAB, ODU, Charlotte, the Florida twins, WKU, and MTSU looks about as good as CUSA could realistically get to me. The only problem is that is more mouths to feed so I doubt schools would be willing to advocate adding two more.

I'm also an advocate of the 16-team model. WKU, Arkansas State and NMSU would help the geography a lot, but Southern Mississippi needs to let it be known where they want to play, east or west.

With USM having an interim president, good luck getting a firm answer.

Our new president will be in office before the spring meetings take place

(02-28-2013 01:30 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  I hope they do push USM west, just so our AD will get off his butt and get us into a real conference.

If we're stuck in CUSA, I'd rather be in the West. At least UTEP, Rice, Louisiana Tech, and to some extent even North Texas are recognizable names to anyone who's followed the game to any extent during my lifetime and don't make everybody go, "Who the hell is that?" when they show up on the schedule.

This isn't at all a commentary on the actual quality of the their programs, but there are just too many IA/FBS newbs and start-ups in the East. Being in a division in which UAB is considered an elder statesman does not appeal to me one bit.

Any chance CUSA goes with a zipper?

WKU/MTSU
UAB/USM
FAU/FIU
UNCC/ECU
Marshall/ODU
Rice/UNT
LTU/UTEP