Temple does the BE a huge favor leaving the MAC a year early which ends up costing them $6M instead of $2.5M and the bottom falls out of the BE. I do feel bad for Temple but you should have stayed in the MAC.

The B10 announcing that they will no longer play FCS teams is going to be a domino affect upon FCS football, you will see lots of those programs either trying to move up to FBS or become non scholarship like the Pioneer League in the next few years.

With fewer FBS teams playing FCS for $, interest in the MAC & Sunbelt by higher profile FCS teams will grow. If Temple(13) had stayer for football only, with the addition of UMass for football (14); JMU (15) is expressing interest in the MAC, all that is needed is 1 more quality FCS program (Delaware) and you have a conference with a very strong Eastern presence (Buffalo, Temple, UMass, JMU, Delaware) along with a solid Midwest foundation (Ohio, Toledo, Akron, BSU, CMU, NIU, Miami, BGSU, Kent)

(03-02-2013 01:53 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  Add UMass and VCU to the NBE. Navy can serve as VCU's football team.

Makes two divisions:

North
Cincinnati
Connecticut
East Carolina
Massachusetts
Temple
VCU/Navy

South
Houston
Memphis
SMU
Tulane
UCF
USF

Add George Mason or UMass (hoops & olympic sports only) along with VCU & with Army(footballl only)

You have Football:
Army, Navy, Temple, ECU, Cincy, UConn
Houston, Memphis, SMU, Tulane, UCF, USF

Hoops
Temple, VCU, UConn, Cincy, EcU, Houston, Memphis, SMU, Tulane, UCF USF, UMASS/George Mason

Gives you 2 Texas program, 2 Florida programs(#1 and #4 enrollment in the state) , 2 Service Academies, 2nd largest university in NC, 2nd largest University in VA (VCU), huge Public U hoops power(Memphis), 2nd largest U in PA (Temple) , largest Public U in New England(UMass) or Final 4 hoops participant(Ga Mason 08)

That is an interesting league

This is not about Temple personally it's about money. The Big 65 want to keep
it and do not want to share it with anyone else. Right now, money teams are
B1G (14), SEC (14), PAC12 (12), B12 (10), and ACC (14) and ND. They are
not adding new seats but likely contracting. No team not now in the money will
ever be in the money except BE-like for a few yrs in a run-off of last
ACC TV deal. Power schools (and we all know who they are and they are
do not post on this board) are not going to share. Effectively there is already
D IA - rich, powerful, high money, best TV exposure and time slots and
D IAA - weeknight games, Beef O'Brady's Bowl at best. And that's how the money
conferences want it. So none of us this us the fault of the have not teams, the game is
stacked against them and will remain so. That's where the MAC is smart
they internalized this a long time ago and they have a great league amongst
themselves because they accept that's it. Yes every once in a while a
have not team will get a chance to get blown off the field like NUI.
New American Confrence schools 1-2 of you might make the final 4 conferences
but the rest look to the MAC - TV money won't be there so focus on the
FB rivalries in conference.

(03-02-2013 11:47 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  This is a very legitimate point. The nBE has become a sham.

Yes. All schools should drop to NAIA.

Otherwise ... they're doomed.

(03-02-2013 08:23 PM)KevinSmith Wrote:  This is not about Temple personally it's about money. The Big 65 want to keep
it and do not want to share it with anyone else. Right now, money teams are
B1G (14), SEC (14), PAC12 (12), B12 (10), and ACC (14) and ND. They are
not adding new seats but likely contracting. No team not now in the money will
ever be in the money except BE-like for a few yrs in a run-off of last
ACC TV deal. Power schools (and we all know who they are and they are
do not post on this board) are not going to share. Effectively there is already
D IA - rich, powerful, high money, best TV exposure and time slots and
D IAA - weeknight games, Beef O'Brady's Bowl at best. And that's how the money
conferences want it. So none of us this us the fault of the have not teams, the game is
stacked against them and will remain so. That's where the MAC is smart
they internalized this a long time ago and they have a great league amongst
themselves because they accept that's it. Yes every once in a while a
have not team will get a chance to get blown off the field like NUI.
New American Confrence schools 1-2 of you might make the final 4 conferences
but the rest look to the MAC - TV money won't be there so focus on the
FB rivalries in conference.

Man what were you on when you wrote this and can you send some of it to me. NIU did not get blown out by FSU, it was a 7 pt game at the start of the 4th quarter unlike the Lville/FL game, the Oregon/KSU game the Syracuse/WVA game, the ND/Alabama game and the A&N/Oklahoma game which were all 3 or larger deficits at the start of the 4th quarter.

(03-02-2013 11:59 AM)Tulsafanzz Wrote:  

(03-02-2013 11:47 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  This is a very legitimate point. The nBE has become a sham.

CUSA just moved 2 Tulsa home football games to Thursday night for TV.

I don't like weeknight games at all, but anyone outside the B1G,PAC 12, BIG XII & SEC has to endure this. Come to think of it, even a BIG XII team, Iowa State, is playing at Tulsa in one of our Thursday night games.

Tallgrass, please give it a rest. Everyone knows your opinion on the Big East. Anyway, Tulsa may be in the Big East coming up.

You can refuse to play weeknight games at home in CUSA. I know we did during Fedora's years, we didn't play last year and as far as I know we don't have one this year.

If Temple is crying about travel costs for their Olympic teams they better leave them in the A-10. When UConn and Cinn leave in the next realignment shuffle they are really going to be screwed. They better start pushing for UMass, James Madison, and Marshall.

(03-02-2013 01:51 PM)chess Wrote:  Temple, Memphis, East Carolina, South Florida, and Central Florida should bond well. While not a bus league, these are fairly short flights.

Our challenge will be to see how the landscape shapes out over the next 10 years. Will we see a rise in programs like Charlotte, Old Dominion, and Georgia State? Will Connecticut and Cincinnati remain. Will Houston and SMU remain?

10 years is a realignment epoc.

In 10 years none of this will matter. LOL

Thinking to myself, "Yeah.. Memphis, ECU, South Florida and Fredo bonded so well before that South Florida, then Memphis and Fredo left ECU behind (so they were thinking) for what was known then as the nBE..."